Maybe liberals on the forum can explain this to me and others

Sometimes yes they are..I've had a good year so fer...

 

You are just what America does not need

Meaning another clueless foreigner lecturing us about our internal domestic policies

Dont you have enough to worry about in your own country?

 

Why the snark ? Upset that empirical evidence does not agree with your preconceptions ?

The fact is that during the US's "golden age" for the middle classes, the 1950's and 1960's, taxes were high for the wealthiest and labour unions were strong. The so-called decline of the middle classes has coincided with a lowering of taxes on the wealthiest and a weakening of unions.

Developed countries with lower levels of inequality and higher levels of social and economic mobility have higher taxes on the wealthy and stronger labour unions.

Yes, there's plenty to be concerned about here in the UK, we're becoming the US's "mini me" with a similar faith in voodoo economics with a predicable resulting increase in inequality and decrease in social and economic mobility, but amazingly enough, some of us can consider two things at the same time

 

Your conclusions are wrong

But I’m not going to quibble with a foreigner about US tax policy

Its none of your business

 

At the risk of sounding like the Monty Python argument sketch, just asserting something doesn't make it so.

The US has growing inequality and reducing social and economic mobility. This has coincided with a period where taxes are historically low and where unions have less and less power and influence.

The US's inequality is much higher than most other developed nations and its economic and social mobility is lower than most other developed nations. The US has lower taxes and weaker unions than most other developed nations.

I get why the 1% or the 0.1% are so in favour of low taxes and weak unions, it helps them to concentrate their wealth and influence. I don't get why so many working and middle class people are also in favour of the 1% or 0.1% concentrating their wealth and influence.

What a bizarre opinion for an international debate forum

 

Again I disagree when you say illegal immigration is not to blame for lower wages. I have seen it 1st hand where I have, as a contractor, been forced to compete with it.
A good comparison, historically, would be the pre-Civil War South where wage earners were forced to compete against slavery. Business owners either owned slaves...or did not compete. Either you were of the slaveholding class, or you did not compete. Either you were part of the system, or you barely eeked out a living. I am content with my lot in life in spite of the fact I have competed in an unfair system. Labor is not competed on a level playing field. Prior to 1980, I worked and learned from many "legal" immigrants in my trade. I have nothing against them so don't EVER confuse that! I worked on entire crews of masons who hailed from South of the border who worked here legally. They were paid the same wage as I and witholding was the same. It is illegal immigrants, usually paid in cash or working with stolen I.D. that have driven the demand for skilled American labor down.

 

It maybe an "international debate forum" but our country, the USA is sovereign. We are not members of a life sucking European Union nor do we go along to get along. Our situation is unique. We have seen socialistic wage scales by Union Auto workers drive Auto makers to Eastern lands and we are taking it back.....making America great Once again.

 

I think it will continue to get better!

 

Another meaningful contribution.

 

Most of my money has come from rigorous investing and saving. Most of my joy has come from creativity.

 

Agreed

 

Who made the money you saved and invested?

Most of my money has come from work, both hard work and not-as-hard work.

 

Everyone that works gets paid. Most of the drones that pass through this veil of tears contribute nothing that could possibly be defined as either art or creativity.

 

I did. I had a very high level corporate job for over twenty years and retired from that waste of life in my forties.

 

You obviously don't read very well. I called your idea stupid. It is your choice to extrapolate.

 

Good for you...

 

Yes it is working really well. Didn't Ford just announce the layoff of 25,000 people as a result of the Trump tarriffs?

 

Not at all

Find an international issue and I will debate it with you

 

Yes but the fact that I had the motivation and ability to get a top education was thanks to my parents who put their children above everything else. Those oppotunities are not available to everyone.

We didn't need government help but not every child is so fortunate.

 

That stock market now is one of the most expensive to invest in within the world though.

That's why you don't see a lot of poor or low income people investing in the stock market.

 

Sure, and that is why the GDP growth has been gradually declining in the US despite the fact that the rich have been getting richer while everyone else has basically stood still. Facts dispute your theory but don't let thst stop you from claiming liberals don't understand economics.

 

Seems that Jefferson was an anarchist at heart.

All anarchists deny that the majority of people are relatively stupid and uneducated. Therefore, they have to be governed so far that they can't harm themselves.

Anarchy will probably work, but only a few centuries into the future. Not for a mankind like it is today.

 

No they don't invest in the market because first they don't have the money and second most don't have a long term outlook. That said the middle class doesn't really invest in the market much either. The overwhelming percentage of stocks are owned by the rich.

 

So if you have googled it why not just tell us what percentage of the US budget goes to welfare for illegal aliens?

 

Every child in America can succeed if they want to

Not everyone will be a billionaire

but no one has to be poor unless they want it that way