McCarthy to green light Biden impeachment inquiry this week

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  1. fullmetaljack

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    Sure I can. It’s called “presumption of innocence”. I can also declare them innocent because you have failed to produce any conclusive evidence. Your opinion of what has been produced is only one possible explanation of many.

    You choose this explanation because you are biased against the Bidens.
     
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    RFOLMAO, you don't trademark in a STATE you trademark with the FEDERAL government and like in China when you apply you have protection from that point there is nothing gained when the "formal" document is received there is no additional benefit. And they don't "approve" it is merely something you apply for and receive.

    Tell me exactly how you equate the Chinese government funneling tens of millions of dollars into the private bank accounts of the Biden family for NO apparent product or service provided and some of that money funneling into The Big Guys personal bank account with trademarks routinely applied for by a legitimate business selling it's legitimate products to the people of China, not the government of China. Trademarks as applied for in every country in which that company does business INCLUDING the United States. The government doesn't give you money when they send you a trademark document.

    Really, who copied her products in China that she sued for tens of millions of dollars?

    Or him for that matter although bribery includes benefits to his family too not required he got a dime, but then we know he did. And YES we know you don't care. You care more about some bogus claim a property value was inflated where no one was harmed or defrauded than our worst foreign adversaries bribing the current President and his family.
     
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    Yes if I am on a jury I have to give the presumption of innocent. Last I checked you and I are not on a jury here. The fact is you can't refute the bank records and the communications records and the testimony given.

    I get it you won't because you can't discuss the evidence and probable cause..........
     
  4. fullmetaljack

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    The fact is, I don’t need to refute any of the material you post, so I haven’t even tried.

    You’re welcome to your opinion about your material but that doesn’t make it fact or evidence.
     
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    If Biden said something like this, I would be up in arms

    "We won, the last time, 50 states, think of it, 50 states," he told the Freedom Summit, outside Orlando, Florida. "We won every state. We then did great in the election. We got 12 million more votes or so … 12 million more votes than we got the first time."

    Trump is one demented old dude...
     
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    Nothing about being related to the Chinese government. If the evidence is there, what is taking republicans so long to impeach? Don't they have a duty to remove a rogue president?
     
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    He proved you wrong multiple times here
     
  8. fullmetaljack

    fullmetaljack Well-Known Member

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    Projection at its finest. It's not my problem if you are delusional, objectively speaking.
     
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    You can project all you want.
     
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    CEFC is a Chinese government company as has been cited over and over

    "CEFC, a Shanghai-based energy company linked to the Chinese government. "
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/moving...mily-election-939b71f9?mod=opinion_major_pos7

    Biden lied about the money his family was getting from China and Chinese businesses and his involvement and yes money flowing to him for the influence being peddled.
     
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    The fact is you can't and can offer no defense nor explanation to refute the assertion of the bribery and influence peddling. My opinion is based on the evidence and facts presented, your dismissal of the allegations has NO basis nor have you been able to refute that evidence I have presented.

    Here you go once again, now refute it, what do you have that says to refute the House committee findings as reported today in the WSJ?

    "...The first check to Joe was written on Sept. 3, 2017, although the money trail begins earlier with his son Hunter. In the first half of 2017, Hunter and business associates negotiated a joint company with CEFC, a Shanghai-based energy company linked to the Chinese government. One email from a Hunter associate that discussed equity stakes suggested 10% of the joint venture be held by Hunter for “the big guy.”

    CEFC was asked to commit $10 million in capital. When the money didn’t come, a frustrated Hunter sent a July 30, 2017, WhatsApp message to Raymond Zhao, a CEFC associate. It said he was sitting with his dad, demanded payment and warned: “I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my direction.”

    A week later, a Chinese company affiliated with CEFC sent $5 million to a joint venture between Hunter and a CEFC associate. The same day, that joint venture sent $400,000 to an entity controlled by Hunter. Less than a week later, Hunter wired $150,000 from his entity to a company owned by James and Sara Biden. On Aug. 28, 2017, Sara withdrew $50,000 from said company. The same day, she deposited it into a personal bank account that belonged to her and her husband. Prior to this deposit, the balance on that personal account was $46.88. On Sept. 3, she cut a $40,000 check from that account to Joe Biden. Graduates of elementary-school math will note that $40,000 is 10% of $400,000."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/moving...mily-election-939b71f9?mod=opinion_major_pos7

    Are you claiming none of this happened yes or no?
     
  12. fullmetaljack

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    What influence was that ? How did China as a country or any Chinese business benefit from these so-called payments ?

    You keep asking what service was provided by Hunter yet you can't give one example of "influence" being sold. To use a line from another poster, @Oldyoungin ,
    when he was asked about all the money Justice Thomas received from rich folks who had cases in the SCOTUS:

    Well, He was likely providing weather updates. And , no, I don't have to prove it because we're not in court.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Your problem is you have nothing of substance to add here because you have no defense for the Biden's and their influence peddling and the tens of millions they were receiving from our worst foreign adversary as has been demonstrated to you.

    So why are you even here in this discussion?
     
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    Oh we already know your position, no need to share as I don't really care :alcoholic::blahblah::pc:
     
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    The influence Hunter was demanding they pay up for.

    Are you claiming what I posted is false and that Biden was being truthful when he said Hunter nor anyone in his family ever got money from China and that included him?
     
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    Hey, thanks for the quote ! It very neatly and efficiently illustrates the hypocrisy and partisanship by the right.
     
  18. fullmetaljack

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    Influence to do what and for whom and in what capacity ? Go ahead, you claim to have mountains of "eveidence".
     
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    Again, what are the specific links to the Chinese government?
     
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    "CEFC, a Shanghai-based energy company linked to the Chinese government. "
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/moving...mily-election-939b71f9?mod=opinion_major_pos7

    "How all that happened remains largely unknown. But one thing is clear: at its height, Ye’s company, CEFC China Energy, aligned itself so closely with the Chinese government that it was often hard to distinguish between the two.

    The young tycoon appeared to be China's unofficial energy envoy, meeting presidents across the globe and even becoming an adviser to a European government. In 2016, he ranked No. 2 on the Fortune magazine 40 Under 40 list."
    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/12/asia/patrick-ho-ye-jianming-cefc-trial-intl/

    Biden said his family never got a penny for China or the Chinese or business in China.........not only did the members of his family HE got his 10% for The Big Guy as the money track I posted demonstrates.

    Read my sig..............let me know when you have something to refute the facts your self-serving simple dismissals do not and are getting quite repetitious and boring.
     
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    That's my latest nominee for Ironic Post of the Year...
     
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    Whatever it was Hunter was demanding they pay up or pay the price.

    Are you claiming what I posted is false and that Biden was being truthful when he said Hunter nor anyone in his family ever got money from China and that included him?
     
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    How so since I am the one actually citing the facts and evidence while all you guys have are simple dismissals and simply repeated demands the same evidence be posted over and over and over.
     
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    Ok, whatever was it ? And from who did he demand what ?

    Let’s go , you claim to have a mountain of “evidence” yet you can’t even tell us what Hunter demanded ?

    Sounds like a fantasy story to me.
     
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    Again, no evidence of being linked to the Chinese government. I am asking how CEFC is linked to the Chinese government. You keep posting one word lines that make an assumption without offering any evidence.
     

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