Military Spending Is Already Bankrupting America

Again, don't be scared. Just don't screw with us. We control the world, so dollars, pounds, euros, it doesn't matter.

 

The funny thing is ...

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About 75% of US military expenditures deal exclusively with their own global interests, intervening militarily whenever needed ... but nothing with the US defense capability, let alone NATO!

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Compared to the evil Europeans is trumped by Trump, because they allegedly do not comply with the 2% commitment. Right, few people do that right now ... but do they have to do it right now? A clear NO!
According to the Wales Treaty in 2014, which the US has signed, every NATO member does not have to do that until 2024!
Sure ... everyone knows Trump likes to ignore contracts he does not like ... but then do we have to put up with his idiotic behavior or even give in? Never!

But anyway ... it's always funny to see that the Democrats bring the state budget to fruition in their 4 or 8 years, so that then the Republicans can then ruin again, also with gigantic military spending.

Well ... already Reagan had secretly sold them weapons to finance the Contras against the Sandinists in Niceragua in the same secret way, which the congress explicitly forbade him to do.
But of course that's overrated when a US president and his administration break laws ... and then an aircraft carrier is named for him as a thank you. Will one of the new aircraft carriers of the Ford class be named after Nixon? i would not wonder if...

 

If your post has anything to do with reality, I’m missing it. Are you saying that capitalism isn’t free trade? That justice is not getting what you’ve earned? And that liberty is not freedom to do as you wish? Are you saying that capitalism, justice, and liberty are delusions that have nothing to do with independent thought and reality?

If so, more’s the pity for you.

 

All kinds members of the "awkward squad" have managed to make if off the back benches. In some cases it's to keep them quiet (better to be inside micturating out than the opposite) in other cases it's because they have support from other backbenchers. If your contention is that it's impossible to get off the back benches if you're someone who absolutely refuses to interact with their fellow MPs then I suppose you're right but that's hardly the same as claiming that there's a Westminster elite that keeps everyone else on the backbenches.

 

If all these are the American virtues of "democracy" ... why did the US support and still support so many dictators in the world who care about this all a crap, etc.?

 

I didn't generalise; I did mention some of the exceptions ie. those in the know, and toadies?? I mean they cover quite a wide spectrum.

 

Then I'm not sure what argument you're trying to make and how it relates to the original point you tried to make....

When provided with a counterargument - that there are plenty who are not - your evidence seems to be a claim that the UK parliament is a closed shop. I think this claim is also untrue - there are plenty of "outsiders" who have done just fine. IMO you've diluted your original argument that all US politicians are zillionaires to homeopathic levels.

 

My use of the word £squillionaires was sardonic, meaning wealthy or very wealthy. Thought you might have realised that. Lighten up a bit fcs!

 

Your argument only holds true if your definition of wealthy is sufficiently broad to include anyone in receipt of an elected representative's salary - in which case it's a circular argument.

 

Blimey - 'Semantics 'R Us'? Lighten up TD, you're obsessing?

 

In fact, the US stole money from Iran. Just like the French stole Gaddafi’s money.

 

And returning it was a very bad idea.

 

And like the Brits are refusing to return the gold of Venezuala.

 

Though government spending is destroying us, the answer is not castrating the military; the answer is to stop suckling, stop whining, and stop malingering. In other words, stop begging the government for your neighbor’s money, and get off your deadbeat asses and get to work.

Its your life, for Christ’s sake. Your most precious possession. Quit giving it away for a government gilded cage.

 

Healthcare, education and infrastructure are investments in our people which will pay off richly for all of us in time. Defense spending is a direct conduit for our taxes to the pockets of Trump and his cronies and it is not enough for them that they succeed, we must fail. Besides, Trump's base like to think that their Master Race was meant to slay the world, not care for it.

 

Spare me your uneducated and uninformed BS. We has this discussion already and you tried to claim that Veterans Pensions - and the VA in general were not part of Total Military spending.

When your ridiculous assertions were proven false - you then ran away to go stick head in the sandbox of denial.

 

If Veteran's Pensions are part of total military spending then why do they have an entirely separate department set up for them.

And please continue with the personal attacks and insults. I can hit report as well as anyone here.

 

Do you have any actual evidence of this?

Thought not.

 

What personal insults - all I have done is stated what your actions were. If you are insulted by a mirror - that's not my problem.

A Pension is part of the compensation package for military personnel = if the military was smaller - these payout would be smaller.

That this has to be explained to you speaks volumes.

 

Exactly - we will default at some point - and this will happen much sooner than 100 years.

Writers are already writing about it One documentary on the 2008 crash (ponzi scheme) - is called "The Inside Job" - because that is exactly what it was.

 

You said I was "uneducated" and "uninformed".

Do you need to see my education background or the books and magazines I read?

 

The simple fact is that no US president would allow the arms manufacturers with their R&D to go broke, therefore every president has to keep up continuous procurements whether the hardware is needed or not, otherwise they will go broke? QED

 

Trying to find the full breakdown but it seems 40%+ is wages/housing.

 

No I didn't - check your reading comprehension while you are at it - I said your comments were uneducated and uniformed. There is a difference.

It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that the pay and benefits package of someone working for the military is part of Military Spending. It does not take a university degree to figure out that the the costs of war - treating the injured - is part of Total Military spending.

That is one thing. Now someone may not put 2 + 2 together immediately ( not realize that veterans pensions and so on) are part of total military spending. This is understandable but, on having it explained to them they get it.

What is the mark of a fool is someone who - after something is explained to them - still persists in the same error.

We had this conversation previously. If the shoe fits .. the shoe fits.

 

Oh dear, Peter is back on his orange box ranting about the big bad Russians or Chinese... or Iranians (or whatever is the flavour of the month) or any American "enemy" chosen to keep the war machinery well greased (and the palms that run it too) as well as keeping the defence manufacturers in luxurious clover.

It'a protect my 'rice bowl' post. You are still in the defence sector Peter I believe?

Btw, the term "international order" is a term created by America expressly to mean the continuance of "American hegemony".