More Holes in Russia-gate Narrative

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not sure that is an accurate statement. At least one California congressman has visited Assange in London. A conscientious investigator with clean hands might do the same thing, if he were really serious about getting the truth found out......
     
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    Not clear about what it is your saying ... Rohrabacher presented a deal proposed by Assange. I've already commented on it. It's been rejected by the DOJ. Assange wants amnesty over Snowden & Vault 7, in return he'll release details of the DNC email "hack". Assange has a story to tell, and Mueller doesn't want to hear it.
     
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    So as long as Mueller does not contact Assange can we assume he is not being conscientious and without clean hands?
    Is Mueller just trying to fry Trump by any means necessary? Or is his investigation actually trying to get to the bottom of the issue of
    Russians hacking our election?
     
  4. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Excellent questions, and I surely don't know the answers.

    I do not trust Mueller or anybody else in the FBI or US Justice Department. Their history of deception and political maneuvering makes them suspect.
     
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    Why would Mueller want to contact Assange?

    Just to get a made up ridiculous BS Story?

    Assange = A pathetic social media whore who is fabricating stories (made up of fantastical lies) just to keep his name in the news.

    That Julian Assange? :roflol:

    Hopefully Mueller has better things to do.
     
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    That is the problem. Most who believe russia hacked and turned over emails to wilkileaks are out of touch. The people who believe assanged was guilty of rape have not followed the complete story. The US want assange. And their allies will help us. This sweden deal was a railroaded deal, which finally went away, although the US's man who pushed this case is still wanting to do his duty, for the US.

    Trouble with this group of posters is that they are either paid establishment shills, or just naive. Well a few could be just blind knee jerk ideologues.

    I would put trust in VIPS, patriots, over this corrupt oligarchy. They go after both dems and repubs.
     
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    Assange has hard verifiable evidence. LOL And unlike some of us, looks to be a rare bird, honest. In what he has released to date, has been 100 percent accurate. Who else has that track record? Not MSM or anyone else. But cover your ears and go into denial. It is the mode of operation of so many of us here.
     
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    Why to fulfill his
    mission duty and find out who is behind the Russian election hacking, of course. Duh....

    Hopefully Mueller is not the partisan moron that some of his followers are
    and actually wants to get to the bottom of this issue, which he can only do by getting a fuller picture from any and all appropriate sources.

    He has been selected to investigate this issue and has assured everyone he will conduct a fair and thorough investigation.
    How can he do that if he listens to trolls and know nothings and ignores someone at the epicenter of the issue?

    You swing wildly and strike out yet again.
     
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    He maybe be able to prove weather it was or wasn't Russia that hacked the election. He knows who the source is. If you're "really" investigating "Russia hacking the election", seems like a good place to start? Otherwise it looks like you're running a witch hunt.

    Mueller, as a lawyer, knows not to ask questions he may not want the answers too. This goes for brainwashed drones as well.

    Man, if it came out Seth Rich was the source, murdered by Awan, and Assange had proof... It'll be like the Hillary landslide x10. Imagine all the threads getting bumped and the laughter that will ensue...
     
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    I don't agree with you but thanks for keeping the "Russian" thing going despite Trump's attempt to keep it out of the news with a phony attack on football players :)
     
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    Bad news bro... Woke up this morning and Trump is still president.
     
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    Wow! What a mind boggling brilliant observation!!........which has nothing to do with the post of mine you quoted so I guess that's all you 've got...
     
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    Yes.... the questions then are whether trump org has been truthful in their denials, and whether we care

    So maybe team trump coluded... but even if they did, it's ok?
    They repeatedly have lied about Russian connections... but that is ok?
    And in the future... it is ok if Russia donates a hidden billion to a candidate... that's ok?

    Is there anything in all this ....and what might be in the future that is not ok?
    If that is the case... then trump an the GOP should just stand up and own that point of view... right?
     
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    Funny that wikileaks has a 100% accuracy history given that Assange is such a compulsive liar, doncha think? How many other agencies can you think of that can make this claim?
     
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    NSA erased surveillance data related to pending lawsuits: Report.

    Surveillance data the National Security Agency vowed to preserve related to pending lawsuits has been erased, and the agency did not take several precautions it told a federal court it would take to ensure the data did not get deleted, court filings reveal.

    Top NSA officials should be jailed for contempt. But they won’t because the law is for the little people.

    These anti-Trumpers aren't even trying to pretend they have any integrity any more. What a pit of vipers.
     
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    Of course, for several reasons.

    The speed at which the data was downloaded indicated that it couldn't have been done over transoceanic connections.

    If it was hacked from a foreign source, the NSA's PRISM infrastructure would have captured every packet in real time (and the NSA only had "medium" confidence in the hack).

    I've always pointed out the stupidity of liberals who scream about us attacking Iraq, while claiming how pristine our "intelligence" agencies are, when both sets of information came from the same place.
     
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    Morning Joe maybe?
     
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    Are you trying to say NSA is run by the Russians? If not, I don't see the connection.
     
  19. Antiduopolist

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    The Deep State appears to have made an uneasy peace with the Trump White House, so it's all just CYA at this point to maintain BAU.

    But don't tell the TDS crowd, at least not until they have a new boogeyman to terrify themselves and their fellow sheeple with. :eek:
     
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    We need to keep digging until we discover Mueller's Russian ties. :eek: :eek:
     
  21. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the "Deep State", in your opinion, and who runs it?
     
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    It's a mystery to be sure...
     
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    If you don't know, how do you know it exists? I'm more confident in Hanlon's Razor than I am in the existence of a mythical "Deep State".
     
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    It's all a mystery I guess.

    But malice, self-interest; tomato, tomato.

    Maybe Google will help expand your understanding? :)
     
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    The "Deep State" is a cadre of high-ranking functionaries who've made a career of government service in various bureaucracies. There are a variety of government "agencies", each with "directors" (and their 'directorates'), a bunch of "commissioners" (with their own 'Commissions'), and a variety of "departments" (with various 'heads'). All of these have "secretaries" (with their respective secretariats). These are all populated by functionaries with often decades of service rising through the ranks. There is a "Civil Service Commission" that conducts examinations every year, anyone can take the test, you get a rating and qualify for a government position in one of the bureaucracies based on your score. This is the "deep state".
     
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