More Obamacare TRUTH

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  1. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    Corporate welfare queens have been singing that song for decades without objection from the far right. Strange (no, not really) how the far right never complains about that.
     
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    so, if your gripe is with them, why aren't you sending the bill to them instead of us? I am against foreign aid especially when it goes to anti-American movements..................
    so again, it is designed to fail. Do you have a plan B when your insurance fails? mine is already in effect and will not be disrupted because Obiecare fails
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ped-most.html?rref=upshot&abt=0002&abg=1&_r=3


    about 10 million more people have insurance coverage this year as a result of the Affordable Care Act. But until now it has been difficult to say much about who was getting that coverage — where they live, their age, their income and other such details.

    Now a large set of data — from Enroll America, the group trying to sign up people for the program, and from the data firm Civis Analytics — is allowing a much clearer picture. The data shows that the law has done something rather unusual in the American economy this century: It has pushed back against inequality, essentially redistributing income — in the form of health insurance or insurance subsidies — to many of the groups that have fared poorly over the last few decades.

    The biggest winners from the law include people between the ages of 18 and 34; blacks; Hispanics; and people who live in rural areas. The areas with the largest increases in the health insurance rate, for example, include rural Arkansas and Nevada; southern Texas; large swaths of New Mexico, Kentucky and West Virginia; and much of inland California and Oregon.






    !more incontrovertible TRUTH that Obamacare is saving money and lives!



    Bad news for America haters who cry about this TRUTH.

    By contrast, every real patriot rejoices. :flagus:
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    those are rewrites for Medicare............that's free and they aren't paying. Send your pay check in yet?
    Mr Patriot should be giving his entire paycheck since he believes he should..........of maybe you are one of those getting a free ride, for now because he is unemployed demanding that someone else should support him? you know, a moocher/deadbeat.
    Since I pay for all of mine, why the hell should I pay yours?
     
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    Have you sent a bill to Israel for the free health care we have provided for them?

    How about a bill to the elite corporations which have had their medical costs subsidized??
     
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    so again, why should I pay for your healthcare? Just because?
    get a job and pay for your own............
     
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    What part of the fact that even before the ACA you were paying for the healthcare of the uninsured and the underinsured don't you understand?
     
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    I'm retired now and have already paid my taxes so that freeloaders like you, Fortune 500 employees, and Israel could get theirs at my expense.
     
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    bud, I have been, am now, and will continue to pay for my own. so that bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is lost on me. so take your "freeloader" for a short walk.
    I'm retired and will continue to pay my own way. Looks like I prepared better than you.
     
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    I bet you worked for a Fortune 500 company and got subsidized. That is, assuming you are writing the truth.
     
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    What is so great about having insurance when you can't afford to go to the doctor because of the deductible?
     
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    that isn't the only path. There's such a thing as smart finances. Nope, been a construction worker, non-union, most of my life, I just started to prepare early.............something the moochers never plan on.......
     
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    Obamacare Could Face Large Numbers of Dropouts
    The Fiscal Times
    By Brianna Ehley
    1 hour ago

    More than half the people who enrolled in Obamacare last year don’t plan to sign up again—and that’s bad news for the President’s controversial health care law.





    A new Bankrate survey reveals that 53 percent of current Obamacare enrollees who signed up through the exchanges said they would not be enrolling for 2015. Their reason--“much higher prices for health plans.”

    There could be many reasons for this, among them—more people are working and could have received health care benefits; more people have aged into Medicare and no longer need Obamacare as a bridge; more people find high deductibles along with an average 6 percent increase in premiums as too high burden.

    Related: 10 Worst Places to Live for Obamacare

    An analysis by Bloomberg released last week found that premiums for plans sold on the Obamacare exchanges are going to rise by just 6 percent next year. That’s well below the “double digit” increases that some insurers had predicted earlier this year. Bloomberg noted that the lower than expected premiums in part were a result of increased insurer competition. Some 77 new insurance providers were added to the marketplace for 2015.

    Bankrate also found that another reason some current Obamacare enrollees said they wouldn’t enroll in the exchanges again was the website problems they dealt with last year. Still, government officials, for their part, say the federal website has been improved and though it won’t be perfect, it will provide consumers with a better experience than last year.

    Obamacare’s second open enrollment season begins in just two weeks, and unlike last year’s nightmarish website problems, the biggest challenge could still be getting people to sign up.

    That’s also the conclusion of a survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation, which found that nine out of ten uninsured Americans are unaware that open enrollment for individual plans starts in November. Some two-thirds of uninsured respondents said they know “only a little” or “nothing at all” about the law. More than half of the uninsured people said they had no idea that federal subsidies were available to help make coverage more affordable.

    This is an alarming finding, since the key goal of the law is to expand coverage to qualified uninsured people. If those people are unaware of the law and its specific provisions to help them afford coverage, then the administration’s outreach efforts may be failing.

    "I think a lot of work needs to be done," Kaiser’s Mollyann Brodie, told CNBC. "We're at the very early stages of the second enrollment period, and right now one of the main target audiences is not primed or focused on it."

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obamacare-could-face-large-numbers-101500195.html
    Now here's some real truth.
    Been saying all along, it was never intended to succeed
     
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    So you are one of those who refuses to accept his Social Security check or use Medicare. A very admirable Consistancy.
     
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    Don't need it........
     
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    We've been hearing from the cynics that thousands would lose their coverage thanks to Obamacare (this after forgetting that MILLIONS never had any coverage prior to ACA) and that death panels would result from reforms.


    But where are those dropouts?

    Instead we have millions more being covered at LOWER cost. And those death panels never materialized. Instead the Republicans created death panels that resulted in 45,000 Americans dying every year due to lack of coverage have disappeared.


    Why? Because ACA has been proven to work, contrary to the lies of the far right.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Nobody has ever died from lack of health insurance. That's one of the biggest lies Democrats tell... and they tell a bunch.
     
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    you actually believe that Bullwinkle....the problem is that you have convinced now one.
    Regardless, I am still better prepare than you when it fails you. And that's all that matters to me....your truth will have you on the outside watching me enjoy my personal health insurance on the inside

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    this guy is a certified die hard Obie supporter. He'd rather die than admit that obie is a traitor Scan his posts, that should tell you plenty, Miss Smartie.
     
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    But did you refuse to accept the government largess?

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    Correct! They die of lack of good health care.
     
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    largess implies that I worked for them. I did not. No SSI,no medicare.....
    insurance does not equal good insurance. As articles are pouring in, good healthcare is a thing of the past for the welfare state and those who demand the government (taxpayer) pay for it
     
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    It is a simple yes or no question.
     
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    my answer is more than sufficient.....too bad you don't like it
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Wrong! Millions die in spite of good health care! People die! :(
     
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    It is not that I don't like your answer. The question was a check on your level of hypocracy which I suspect your unwillingness to answer the question has pretty well demonstrated.

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    Other people die. I personally plan to avoid the experience.
     
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    actually, I did it with my own two hands and real careful planning. I told you, I don't receive one damned dime for uncle sam.....that is not being disingenuous, that is being honest...are you calling me a liar?
    I'll check back in on you in a couple hundred years, see how that worked out fer ya......
     
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