MSNBC, Paul Krugman Panic Over "White Rural Rage"

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  1. Talon

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    LOL @ White Urban "Progressive" Rage

    Gee, I wonder why rural folks can't stand those snotty-nosed loons....
     
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    So, you are saying the majority of people from rural, small towns are not anti-immigrant, anti-gay etc? Why are they voting for Tump, then? Isn't Trump tellng them that they have to be outraged about immigrant "invaders" and the "woke"? Why is their Trump support so strong, while, most likely, they are the least affected by illegal immigration and woke policies?

    My feeling: Rural areas continue to be left behind economicaly, which breeds resentment.

    https://www.irp.wisc.edu/resource/many-rural-americans-are-still-left-behind/
     
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    So close...it's amazing really. 2016 was eight years ago and still large chunks of the population doesn't get it, as your comment, and this "White Rural Rage" book attests.
     
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    So, no matter if those voters are rural or not, isn't Trump stoking the anti-immigrant sentiment? If those voters are not anti-immigrant, what are they so updet about? I am just wondering, maybe you can explain it to me, instead of just saying "amazing that you still don't get it" . Because, if I try to understand, then the response ususally is "no, that's not it". So, please, give it a try, and be honest.
     
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  5. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL - Totally, but they are useful in reminding everyone that self-awareness and introspection aren't "progressives" traits.

    Who, exactly, were the threats to democracy that the Supreme Court slapped down today?

    :lol: :roll:

    You can't make this sh*t up, and that yammering bag of hair Mika Brzezinski didn't do herself and Five Draft Deferments Joe any favors bringing up military service. DERP!!!!

    LULZ ~ Finally, and I know this is a craaaazy idea, but instead of climbing down into the sandbox and insulting the people who used to be a core Demokrat constituency, perhaps those pompous urban asses should be asking themselves how and why Dems lost their support?

    Oh, wait a minute - THAT would require self-awareness and introspection......Ain't gonna happen! :razz:
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I might have to watch MSNPC tonight to listen to all the pissing and moaning over today's Supreme Court ruling.....or did Kagan and Jackson send those anti-democratic "progressive" rodents scurrying for the Memory Hole? :lol:

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    Absurd, the Democrats attempts to take out Trump by any means necessary are far more problematic for Democracy than Trump ever has been or ever will be. The worst of it is that these illicit attempts have horribly damaged respect for the country's justice system far more than they have Trump.
     
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    But the crime rates of Black people very nearly always harm black people. We aren't allowed to care about the damage done to Black people? That sounds pretty racist to me.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Surely, you heard about the SCOTUS ruling today,

    It was the people who support Biden who got slapped down by the Court for being a threat to democracy.

    Not surprising at all....
     
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    Oh, the rhetoric is about caring :D:D

    You are allowed to do whatever you want. That's not what this is about.

    Isn't everything racist to you?
     
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    Yes, I will explain it to you. We are anti-illegal immigrant. We are not anti-immigrant. But you knew that already. You play the "I am superior game because I'm pro-immigrant" when you KNOW very well the problems that the illegals are causing in the cities and small border towns which are being crushed by their numbers.Yet you choose to ignore that. You tell people, with proper concerns, that they are bigoted, and I am better educated and morally superior to you.

    This is why people feel so negatively toward the higher education system. You think you are morally superior to everyone else because you fail to acknowledge issues that are causing problems in the lives of "the little people." We are supposed to shut up and do what we are told because the "experts" in the Democrat Party know what's best for us.
     
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    I live in the county outside of a small town and 99% of the people around me are white.

    I went to the secret meeting yesterday where we planned the expression of our rage. I bought a pitchfork while my neighbor bought a burning pitch torch.... And then the guy down the road a few farms over bought his modified tractor with a bunch of armor all over it just in case the City zoning board should piss him off ( if you get it, you get it ). Lol

    That's right, we white country folk are a dangerous lot.
     
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    Nope in fact I've said many times that if the only thing you have to be proud of is the color of your skin you need to get a life and quit wasting oxygen. AS far I am concerned we are all just different shades of tan. My son in law is a latino who works on German cars and my adopted Daughter according to her birth mom is half latino. I got call a "n" lover back in the days when such sentiments could get you killed. Human beings are human beings skin color doesn't separate us, bad attitudes and bad habits can.
    Because of the soft on crime attitude of leftists a black woman is far more likely to raped than a white woman and her attacker far less likely to be convicted. A black man is far more likely to be murdered than a white man and his killer far more likely to go free.
     
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    Yeah, this "White Rural Rage" idiocy is the left's latest desperate attempt to avoid actually discussing issues, based on an idiotic book. Kinda the New Testament of the looney left.
     
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    I'll have to disagree with that. As long as you verify the info imparted to you they can be a valuable source of info.
     
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    Killers don't go free in this country. That's pure myth.

    Sounds like its an opinion of one person.
     
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    Based on what I've seen it seems no one actually does any verification. People just spout talking points.
     
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    Where did I say that I am better because I am "pro-immigrant"? It is true that I AM an immigrant, but with a green card. When I came over, I did so because my American wife wanted to live in the US rather than Europe. In the process, I brought 100,000s of dollars over to the US. So, you can see why I am a little sensitive about the anti-immigrant sentiment, especially since most people don't differentiate between legal vs illegal.

    Let me give you an anecdote. We actually live in a rural area close to a mid sized college city. During covid lockdown, we talked to a conservative neighbor (most of our neighbors are conservative, most of them good people). He started ranting about the Chinese flu and how it is all a Dem hoax. After asking him why cases are going up in the county if it is all a hoax, he said: It's those damn foreigners from the university bringing it here. He probably didn't even realize that I am one of those foreigners, because as a German I don't fit the image of the people that are portrayed on Fox News as the invaders.

    Second, your are letting your bias show about academics. Newsflash: if someone works in academia, they are not necessarily in the "ivory tower", knowing nothing about the lives of regular people. My wife grew up in rural western PA, so I have been to this area a lot. So, your bias about academics and their "ivory tower" is no better than the bias of the article quoted in the OP against rural people. The reality is: Rural people don't understand people in suburbia/cities, and the other way around. This is really more what the current policital divide is about, rather than just GOP vs. Dems.
     
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    You came to this country the right way. You followed the legal procedures are game fully employed with a green card. No conservative should ever give you any problems. If they do, they are xenophobic.I fully support making legal immigration cheaper with less hastles for productive, honest people.

    There is now reasonably good evidence that Coved started from a lab leak at the Wuhan Lab in China. The virus was made especially contagious by a controversial practice called “enhanced transmission.” The “little people” are mad as hell about that because the experts say that is necessary so that they combat a pandemic when it occurs. This time the “Frankin-virus” got out, killed millions of people and started an economic recession. Sorry, but I find that unacceptable.

    The Chinese knew about this in late 2019. Instead of restricting travel, they let infected individuals got to Italy where it got started in Europe. Given the nature of world travel, it wasn’t long before it was here.

    In more recent times, the Chinese have been caught red handed with an unlicensed warehouse in California with such viruses, including the highly lethal Ebola, which, if it were allowed to spread, could kill millions. Why do they have that stuff here? I don’t know about you, but I don’t trust or admire the Chinese leader, Xi. I wouldn’t put anything past him, including germ warfare, if he thought he could get and advantage.

    You are correct when you say I have a bias against academia. I graduated from University of Delaware with a BS in 1971 and Rutgers in 1980 with an MBA. The University of Delaware was a conservative school, but woe be it to you if you were a conservative on campus during the Vietnam era. The few conservative students were treated like pariahs.

    My philosophy was greatly influenced by the economics professors from whom I took courses. All but one of them were from monetarist, Milton Friedman school. One of them was a Keynesian, and he had a strong influence on me as well.

    After college I have spent years studying economics, U.S. history and more recently British and Roman history in connection with numismatics. I hope that you can agree that college is only the beginning. You keep learning well after you get a diploma.

    My conclusion is that the people and the economy are better when they can make their own decisions without an ever growing government that largely looks out for itself. Many people in government are out to feather their own nest, but more than a few of them are Democrats. The Clinton and Biden families have used their government connections to get rich IMO. I have nothing wrong with getting rich, but when you do it by selling government influence, that is a problem.

    As for where I have lived, I grew up in a rural area and could not wait to work my way out of it. I have lived in the Northern New Jersey / New York City area for eight years and then the Boston area for 20 years. Now I live in the suburbs outside of Tampa, Florida. You can call me a hayseed if like.

    I enjoy the theater and write articles for hobby publications. I have also given presentations at major numismatic events. Not bad for a “hayseed.”

    My problem with academia is that it is a monolith. Sure there are places like Hillsdale College, but most of them run by leftists, who can’t see the other side at all. They create students with the same narrow viewpoint.

    Academic freedom is supposed to be about looking all side of an issue. From what I see at most colleges, it’s all one side. which is mostly concerned with pushing top down socialism on the "ignorant and unwashed White people in the rural areas."
     
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    I posted this in another “USA bad” thread I came across the other day.

     
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    We work with immigrants. We socialize with immigrants. They keep agricultural areas humming.

    We work, live, and socialize with gay people. My wife’s cousin is gay. Everyone likes her. I don’t know anyone who hates her for being gay.

    Most Trump supporters I know support him because he’s perceived as slightly less dangerous to our way of life than other options.

    Other rural areas could be different.
     
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    The thing is, I kind of doubt I haven't already made the point to you multiple times. I know I've posted it for several years so I really doubt that going through it one more time will make any difference, because on your side of the aisle, you already have your answer. It's similar to the premise of this "White Rural Rage" book. It's basically white people, who are poor, rural, or not particularly well educated, or worst of all, religious, are...evil. They are Kulaks that are a problem that will have to be dealt with.

    As far as your specific query, "isn't Trump stoking the anti-immigrant sentiment?"

    Is he? How? And what do you even mean by that? Do you interpret anger and the open borders and illegals flooding into the country, "anti-immigrant" sentiment?
     
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    I read somewhere that the GDP of the south east just surpassed the Northeast
     
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    Yeah but your validation is almost always your own confirmation bias.
     
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    You coming in by plane, through customs I gather, with a bank account and ID, I really don't believe you'll find ANYONE who would take issue with it. Compared to a single 18yr old male walking over on foot with no ID, no real skills or grasp of the language, laws or culture and probably a nice list of crimes he's already committed...NOT hard to understand why most people might take issue with that. Right?

    And your anecdotal story about foreigners bringing COVID here...he wasn't wrong. It didn't START here. It started in China, so when Chinese people got on planes and traveled those foreigners ****ed the world. Or people traveling to China, unknowingly caught it and brought it home, because the CCP allowed it to happen. Remember, they tried to blame it on the American military planting it there=) Or it magically poofed out of thin air a couple miles away from a Lab that literally CREATES viruses=) Talk about an act of war, hehe. Yet, there are people to this day STUPID enough to believe the B.S.
     

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