Nancy Pelosi defies Trump over Paris climate change agreement in Spain

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-trump-nancy-pelosi-spain-un-us-a9230181.html

“By coming here we want to say to everyone we are still in, the United States is still in,” Ms Pelosi said on the first day of talks.

Mr Trump announced his decision to withdraw the United States, a top polluter in the world, from the Paris Climate Accord early in his presidency

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Congressional Democrats think that they make International Agreements and override the President of the United States. This is a complete outrage for our nation, our government, and our U.S. Constitution. She has violated her oath.

Is this sedition? Treason?

What we have here is an elite ruling class telling the electorate that their choice for President doesn't matter. She has vastly overstepped her role and our press and the Democratic Party, are ignoring her overriding the President of the United States on international agreements.

 

She is correct. Trump can not withdraw from Paris Climate Accord until 3 years following his announced intent to withdraw. Coincidentally that comes the day after the next Democratic President will be sworn into office and reverses his decision before it takes effect.

 

**** like that is a good reason to not agree in the first place.

 

Would a country want or make agreements if at any moment another country could pull out instantly? Would you want to make that kind of agreement with another person?

 

A three year window is nuts.... This is not a peace treaty ffs.

 

We're talking about the global economy. It's literally trillions of dollars worth of investments, peoples, regulations, etc at stake. These things take time. Look at how long it takes a country to join the EU. They literally have to go line by line to make sure domestic regulations of the country apply for membership match EU regulations.

 

Oh here i was thinking it was about "Climate Change".

You dont have to debate for me... Brexit shows it fine.

 

It is about climate change? I'm citing something simpler like joining the EU as an indicator of how long it takes to do something. This would mean any argument about more complex issues can be reduced down to this argument as well, like climate change.

 

House speaker Nancy Pelosi has pledged the United States is still dedicated to reducing greenhouse gas emissions, even though Donald Trump has begun the process of pulling America out of the Paris Climate Accord.

Yes.

 

Okay and?

 

"It is about climate change?"

Try to follow your own thoughts.

 

Abuse of power.. it is not her place to make foreign policy for the country.. impeach het.

 

The question isn't about whether or not it's about climate change. The question is whether or not you're following my logic.

 

I'm here to discuss the topic not debate your open logic on all things.

 

Your point is that three years is too long, so I counter with it's actually matters how long it will take to withdraw. Have I missed something in your argument so far?

 

You need to learn math, Jaunary of 2025 is much further away than 3 years.

Trump being the cheif executive of the country he can tell the international community to go to hell any time he wants.

The USA should never allow any external influence over internal policy or America's behavior.

 

Yes you have.**** like that is a good reason to not agree in the first place. was my first post......

Enjoy have a nice day.

 

Actually he is right... it would be the day after the election three years after signing it....
Article 28 of the agreement enables parties to withdraw from the agreement after sending a withdrawal notification to the depositary, but notice can be given no earlier than three years after the agreement goes into force for the country. Withdrawal is effective one year after the depositary is notified. Alternatively, the Agreement stipulates that withdrawal from the UNFCCC, under which the Paris Agreement was adopted, would also withdraw the state from the Paris Agreement. The conditions for withdrawal from the UNFCCC are the same as for the Paris Agreement. The agreement does not specify provisions for non-compliance.

On 4 August 2017, the Trump administration delivered an official notice to the United Nations that the U.S. intends to withdraw from the Paris Agreement as soon as it is legally eligible to do so.[73] The formal notice of withdrawal could not be submitted until the agreement was in force for 3 years for the US, on 4 November 2019.[74][75] On 4 November the US government deposited the withdrawal notification with the Secretary General of the United Nations, the depositary of the agreemen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement#Withdrawal_from_Agreement

 

You know that you can not impeach the Speaker of the House, right?

 

Abuse of power has been trotted out quite a bit lately.

 

And what i am saying is that Trump can gove them the middle finger abd be out today. Regardless what that scumbag obama signed

As i understand it was never ratified by congress.

 

She just violated the Logan act.

 

Yes and no..

Its a legal treaty however its not binding..

Not only that but
"The agreement does not specify provisions for non-compliance."

So it might not "legal" to leave the treaty there seems to be no penalty and no authority to do anything.

 

The intent behind the Act is to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the government's position

True...

 

Have a nice day!