NASA Ranks This August Warmest On Record

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  1. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    On the map that you are using as your proof that this August was the hottest yet, I find it interesting that the years they used were if I am not mistaken were 1951-1980. I believe that was the years of the thirty year cooling cycle. Seems to me in the 70's we were talking about a new ice age coming. So if we are in a warming cycle and you compare it to a cooling cycle, then yes I can believe it is the hottest one on record.
     
  2. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm looking forward to reading your red herrings while we enjoy another unusually cold winter this year:

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    It appears that Mother Nature didn't get the Leftist consensus on "Global Warming".
     
  3. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Global Cooling was a media story run amuk. Not a legitimate scientific theory.
     
  4. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    ROFL!!!! Listen to this folks..It doesn't get any worse then this right here.
     
  5. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Your map does not conflict with global temperature data at all. America is a small part of the entire world. And it's not even all of America that's experiencing cooler temperatures. The western part is experiencing very hot temperatures.

    Globally temperatures are way above average. And the eastern part of America is one of the few cold spots in the world.
     
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    I am going with, who cares.
     
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    Look up the definition of "climate" and get back to me. The US is not the world, just because you had a cool summer doesn't mean the planet isn't getting warmer. Is this a forum or daycare?
     
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    And you picking one month out of the entire year isn't cherry picking? You really don't see how ironic your contention is? And your map proves nothing. Anyone can create such a map and claim it as fact. You haven't convinced me one iota.
     
  9. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    If the US isn't included then it isn't global. Do you guys get that yet? I don't think you do.
     
  10. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Pick any month you want. It may not be the hottest ever but I guarantee it's among the hottest. And I guarantee the hottest temperature of any one month was recent. And I also guarantee you'll have to go back a very long time to find the coldest of any one month. And I'm not trying to convince you. You're a lost cause in my book. I'm hoping to convince new readers.
     
  11. Cloak

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    Jesus Christ. It's a measurement of global temperature data, no one is saying the US shouldn't be included, just that it isn't the only region in the world. Do I have to explain how weather works too?
     
  12. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    No, you are hoping to propagandize new readers...lol
     
  13. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Who said the US isn't included. The globe includes the entire globe. The US's temperature is factored into that calculation.
     
  14. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    It's not global...just so you understand because it seems you and a few others are having a hard time with that.

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    The temps aren't the hottest in August WORLD WIDE, so it is NOT GLOBAL! Get it now?
     
  15. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No. I don't get it. Explain to me how they aren't the hottest world wide? That's exactly what the data shows. When we take temperatures from every region in the world and average them out we see this august is the hottest on record.

    This is pretty standard math.

    We do this a lot when we want to get data for a large group of similar data. Like for example if this were a classroom the class average might be a 80%. The class average for all the years prior was 75%. So we could say this year's class was smarter than usual. But there may be some students in the class that failed. So even though they were part of a smarter than average class they still were not very smart.

    Same thing here.

    Even though the US is part of a warmer than usual globe it doesn't mean the US itself is experiencing warmer than usual temperatures.
     
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  17. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    You are so full of it. Averages don't mean it was hotter world wide! You aren't smart enough to realize this I guess. Your definition of worldwide is the entire globe minus where it was cooler. WTF? That is as dishonest as it can get. You aren't fooling anyone.
     
  18. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I never make any claims that this is either. One month of data is nothing. But when compared to over 100 years of data it definitely represents a climate chart. I encourage you to look at the data that shows over 100 years of temperature data in order to get a view of the world's climate.

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    I don't think you understand how averages work. Because no one "minused" anything.
     
  19. PatrickT

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    You don't understand. When there is a very cold winter the global warming hysterics are well aware of the distinction in weather and climate. It's when there's a really hot afternoon that the global warming hysterics get really confused.

    Bottom line for the hysterics, we either raise taxes astronomically and engage in global redistribution of wealth or the world is doomed.
     
  20. TheTaoOfBill

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    This is not a cold winter or a hot afternoon. this is temperatures from all over the world averaged out and compared to temperatures from the past 100+ years showing a continued trend of record breaking hot global temperatures. Not at all the same thing.
     
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    The NASA data file says "using elimination of outliers and homogeneity adjustment"

    In other words, its manipulated.

    And the data starts in 1880. The NASA data table presents changes in temperature with a resolution of 0.01 deg C.

    Really? Global temperature measurements in 1880 to a resolution of 0.01 C?

    LOL, what a joke.
     
  24. nra37922

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    The earth warms up and the earth cools down and has been doing this for a few billion years now. No argument there from anybody, question is how much man can influence the timing of these cycles. But in the end it isn't going to matter a rats arse as the earth will do what it has always done.
     
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    averages don't mean anything. It the actual temps that matter ALL OVER THE GLOBE. Its not global if it wasn't hotter over the entire globe. Something you are having a hard time with.
     

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