Navalny issued chilling warning about second Trump term in final letters from prison

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    No I think it is political prosecution because Trump is running for president and the left can't stand it. It is prosecution of a person, not crimes. I'm not sure you understand what a con man is.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A con man is someone who uses lies routinely in order to manipulate people he conducts business with.

    Con Man = man who cheats or tricks someone by gaining their trust and persuading them to believe something that is not true.

    That was EXACTLY what he did repeatedly with the lenders.

    The other lawsuit was about slander, and since he slandered the victim in public, everyone knows it was not a mad up claim.
     
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    Navalny isn't the only Russian to issue a warning about Trump:

     
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    No, a con man is a thief. I suspect you have no idea what he EXACTLY did but rather are good at repeating left wing talking points.
     
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    Too late. Democrats have already begun taking democracy away.
     
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    I admit I'm confused by all this praise for Navalny. Wasn't this guy an anti-semitic ultranationalist? It seems his actual politics were almost totally opposite of the people in the West supporting him.
     
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    People in the West believe what the US government says about Navalny, not what Navalny actually was.
     
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    Well that certainly seems to be true, but I'm enjoying the irony of the West supporting a Russian Super-Trump, and at the same time hating on the more moderate choice: Putin. Yes, it looks like Putin is to the left of Navalny! It's crazy. Any real western oriented Russian is probably already in the West, so the actual political slate is going to run from bad to worse to much worse.
     
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    I missed this thread, but I find it fascinating that Navalny considered Trump a bad choice for the world. Notably Trump was quiet about the assassination, until after a few days. Then he compared Navalny's assassination to his legal plight. Can this guy NOT be a Narcissist for even one moment. I would hate to be at a funeral with him.
     
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    I don't know that he was assasinated(the latest intel is of a blood clot.).. And it's neither here or there. This guy got folklore status for running against Putin, but let's be honest: Any Russian could've taken that role.

    I think one thing, we the West can do in our interests is to stop thinking we know about the internal going-on's in a nation that's far from our own, speaking an entirely different language. We can no more interfere with the Kremlin than the 2016 interference.

    All of this, is a fable fairy tale. To cover up poor intelligence gathering, to cover up security lapses of sensitive US documents. Our government hated that it got caught with its pants down, so it did what its prone to doing: Making excuses.
     
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    Russia agrees it will destabilize the USA and much of the world if Trump wins a second term, that is why they want Trump to win
     
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    Con Man = man who cheats or tricks someone by gaining their trust and persuading them to believe something that is not true.

    That's the definition, and it also defines Trump to the 't'.
     
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    I don't think our government or anybody weren't aware that an assassination was coming. Navalny's choice to return to Russia was his choice, despite warnings from the entire West. And make no mistake, he was assassinated. "Died while taking a walk" - hmmm. Also I'm not sure what you meant by this comment - "Any Russian could've taken that role". He was extremely brave from day one - speaking to groups of people and criticizing the current regime. And then to continue to do so, and drawing a large following. That is not easy to do, and certainly not something that "anybody" could do. I would be willing to bet that no opposition leader ever gets this powerful again, under Putin's watch. He's learned his lesson, and will silence them immediately.
     
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    We are already seeing a "really scary" prospect for the wider world since Biden's been in charge and overplayed the freezing of Russian assets and sanctions which has expedited everyone in wanted to get off the American dollar, thus fracturing trade and the world in East vs West.

    You are already causing the chasm you feared would happen under Trump and it's hilarious that you are so blinded by Trump derangement syndrome that you can't see it.
     
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    Biden's actions (sanctions, etc) have been coordinated with NATO. The US runs the risk every day of other nations "getting off the American dollar", because our debt is so high. Trump added the most massive debt in a president's 4-year history ($8 Trillion). Biden is projected to come in at $7 Trillion, despite inheriting massive interest every day on the Trump massive debt.

    That said, we need to return to a positive deficit. This last occurred under Clinton/Gore. The only way to do that is with massive spending cuts and a return to the upper-tier tax rates of the '50s, '60s, and '70s. The upper tier was over 70% through that era.
     
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    Biden's sanctions WITH Nato or without Nato were too heavy handed and have overplayed the west's hands. This was a mistake. The world has now fractured from that mistake. This was under Biden's watch. Trump's debt was mostly added in the final year.

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    Since the idiots who champion Biden love to give him a pass on covid related issues...
     
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    Is this supposed to be a justification for Trump's added debt? Republicans had control of the Presidency, the House, and the Senate for Trump's first 2 years, and amassed those incredible debt numbers that you just displayed. You may not like NATO, but I prefer my government to work with both NATO and the UN, as a world team.
     
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    Since the idiots who champion Trump love to give him a pass on covid related issues... then guess Biden gets the same pass for his Covid years
     
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    Trump added slightly more debt because the pandemic dropped on his lap.

    Before that he was doing "ok". Biden would have spent more. But then you would say Biden had to do clean up on the pandemic...

    Got anything else I should be concerned with regarding Trump? Because from where I'm standing, Biden's border policies, foreign policies, domestic policies have been an absolute disaster for America and the world. So if I have to choose between Biden and Trump, things both domestic and foreign were better in every *******n metric.
     
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    I don't pat Biden on the back for jobs returning back to pre covid levels just like I dont give Trump a strike for losing those jobs because the world went full retard and demanded we all shut everything down in a futile attempt to stop a virus from doing what virus's do.
     
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    the right sure wants to blame Biden for Covid related supply issues

    Trump released the Covid shutdown and reopen guidelines
     
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    Thanks for you definition. I'll assume that, since you didn't respond to what I posted you have no opinion.
     
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    Curious. His post wasn't about covid related supply issues. No doubt federal government botched the response to COVID. Few disagree with that.
     
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    I simply corrected your mistake. You said con man is a thief, so I posted the definition of it from Oxford dictionary.

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    con man
    noun
    INFORMAL
    1. a man who cheats or tricks someone by gaining their trust and persuading them to believe something that is not true.

    and Merrian-Webster

    con man

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/con man
    con man
    noun
    : a person who tricks other people in order to get their money : con artist
     
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    Well the problem here is that the conservatives didn't want to shut **** down while progressives went full hysteria with control and mandates and lock downs and social distancing and forced vaccines.

    So while yes, Trump was the guy who started the lock down...Biden embraced and hung onto the lock down for longer than he needed and he embraced hypocrite policies where certain people were allowed to socially gather while others could not.

    But this all is over your head because all you remember is Trump = bad. Even though everything was much better by almost every metric to what we have now.
     

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