New German Battle Ship capable to fire projectiles into space

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  1. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    You mean the "job" of murdering innocent people, including women and children?
     
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    Poor Nazi Germany, victim of foreign aggressors.
     
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    Cities and the civilians within them can (and often are) legitimate military targets. Hiroshima and Nagasaki certainly were.
     
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    Hitler went into Greece to rescue his Italian allies.
     
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    You can't argue against my actual position so you have to make one up. Pretty pathetic.
     
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    Targeting and killing civilians, especially women and children, is evil and cowardly and dishonorable.
     
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    I am not going to ignore history......so, yes. If memory serves...there was a War going on undeniably started by Hitler's Germany. I might have that wrong of course, and it is a known fact that Hitler never butchered anyone...except Jews of course, but they had it coming to them didn't they! And of course, those people who turned a blind eye to all of that are as innocent as Adolf was, I get it.

    Churchill was a total turd. Hitler farted perfume and shat ice cream.

    :)
     
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    I can just remind simple facts. Before France and England declared war on Germany, Germany attacked Poland. Before German cities were bombed, Germans savagely bombed Warsaw, Gernica and other cities/towns.
     
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    As long as the victors continue to write the history books and residual Allied propaganda continues to influence gullible minds, Germany will be blamed for starting WW 2.

    The truth, however, is that the Poles were massacring German civilians with impunity and Germany was compelled to invade Poland to stop the massacres after appealing to the League of Nations over 20 times in just the previous year before invading:


    "The 1939 Danzig Massacres of ethnic Germans which caused Hitler to invade Poland"
    http://fr.soc.histoire.narkive.com/...-germans-which-caused-hitler-to-invade-poland

    The 1939 Danzig Massacres

    EXCERPT "In the months leading up to the German invasion the Polish Army and independent Bolshevik units had been slaughtering German nationals in the Danzig corridor. Mass killings of thousands of civilian ethnic

    Germans (Volksdeutsche) by both civilian and Russian NDVK Jews, who

    were confident that Poland would quickly defeat Germany. Many

    apparently expected to take possession of German farms and businesses.

    An estimated 58,000 German civilians lost their lives in the massacres

    carried out prior to the 1939 invasion.



    Poles had been merrily slaughtering anything or anybody German since at

    least as early as April 1939, with smaller incidents stretching back to

    the close of WW I -- you haven't been told that by the Mass Media, or

    the fact that these atrocities were one of the main causes for the

    German invasion of Poland.



    Germany had protesting in writing to the League of Nations literally

    dozens of times with no results."CONTINUED
     
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    Why?.
     
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    As far as I know, Germany had to declare war on America as a formality, because Japan was Germany's ally and the Americans had declared war on Japan... think Pearl Harbor!! The Americans were itching to get into the war:
    Hitler himself has often said that he didn't want war, was not ready for war, needed at least another four years, had still so much work to do in Germany! By hitting back at Poland he stepped into a trap he hadn't foreseen!

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n6p22_Chamberlin.html
     
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    What? NKVD JEWS in Danzig at summer 1939. killing Germans??? I'm always wondering, how does it come, that some people believe every crazy bullshit that is written in any rubbish website.
     
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    The pact with Japan only required Germany to come to Japan's aid if Japan was attacked.
     
  14. Phyxius

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    If the Chinese ever bombed an American city, they'd be much more concerned with surviving in the radioactive rubble all of their own cities have suddenly become to worry about justification.
     
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    One question that Immediately springs to mind is WHY are you doing this?

    You will NEVER use this in anger

    Who are you defending against? It the Russians ever attack you they would nuke you out of existence on Day 1. (And we would do that to them on Day 1 also)

    Why not spend your money on something useful? Like giving all your University students, even foreigners, free Graduate degrees (if they become German citizens)
     
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    Quite, and Hitler probably thought that since Pearl Harbor would tie down America in the Pacific now was his chance to go after her. Latest interpretations say that AH was actually more jonesed to go after America than England, who he hoped to ally with

    One thing modern historians have forgotten lately is that AH was nucking futs. At the time France and Poland had fallen in days, his troops were driving on Moscow and the Brits were being Blitzed out the war. Now a major enemy was suddenly attacked by a major friend; can you blame him for thinking his time had come?
     
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    Oh, o.k., I don't know the exact details. Anyway, it was obsolete for Hitler to declare war on America, because the Americans were already at war with Germany by helping Britain and Russia with goods and war material.
     
  18. Dayton3

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    Why would you ( or anyone else) believe Hitler? IIRC in his writings he did anticipate that one day in the future the "Old World" (led by Germany) would take on the "New World" (led by the United States) in one final cataclysmic struggle for global supremacy.
     
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    You are wrong, Sir, very wrong! Hitler would never think like that!
    Please, stop insulting him!
    Besides, how could little Germany, barely standing up again after the loss of WWI and the Versailles Treaty, want to go after big America? Check your temperature... I worry you are fantasizing! But, it was Roosevelt who wanted war with Germany, that's why he invented Pearl Harbor to have a legitimate reason for the American public to accept going to war!!

    Inform yourself and read...
    President Roosevelt's Campaign To Incite War in Europe:
    The Secret Polish Documents

    Excerpt:

    Much has already been written about Roosevelt's campaign of deception and outright lies in getting the United States to intervene in the Second World War prior to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941.
    Roosevelt's aid to Britain and the Soviet Union in violation of American neutrality and international law, his acts of war against Germany in the Atlantic in an effort to provoke a German declaration of war against the United States, his authorization of a vast "dirty tricks" campaign against U.S. citizens by British intelligence agents in violation of the Constitution, and his provocations and ultimatums against Japan which brought on the attack against Pearl Harbor -- all this is extensively documented and reasonably well known.

    Not so well known is the story of Roosevelt's enormous responsibility for the outbreak of the Second World War itself. This essay focuses on Roosevelt's secret campaign to provoke war in Europe prior to the outbreak of hostilities in September 1939. It deals particularly with his efforts to pressure Britain, France and Poland into war against Germany in 1938 and 1939.

    Continue reading here:
    https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html
     
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    Yeah - I don't think so. That you choose to use a holocaust denying, Nazi fellating source torpedoes your argument and tells me all I need to know about you and the bullshit you're shoveling.
     
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    Alright, I have perhaps a more distinguished source for you:

    The Truth About World War II Is Beginning To Emerge 74 Years Later

    https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...war-ii-is-beginning-to-emerge-74-years-later/

    Enjoy!
     
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    I don't think you give enough credit to the Imperial Japanese Navy.
     
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    Some kids are learn resistant! They can't be helped. Too bad - so sad!
     
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    Well, I'd prefer not to write you off, but if you're going to continue to promote blatant idiotic bullshit, you leave me no real choice...
     

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