Non-Jews should not be allowed to live in Israel - Israel's Chief Rabbi

Read more please? I did not compare Israel to West Bank; I said, most Arabs

 

I'd respect that if you were consistent. Not saying you're not, but I highly doubt that
I know how selective people can be in their moral judgement.

No he'll live, at the cost of others. Though next time Israel feels like mowing the law it will get 95% support of Israeli people instead of 90%.

 

Either I'm consistent or I'm not. Which one is it?

 

It wasn't legally binding. That is a fact. It was a recommendation. One which was not taken up by the arab leadership. Israel declared her state by herself.

agreed

It would appear so though as I said that had no legal binding and it was very definitely not something people voted for without grave doubts. Indeed it has developed much as the State Department of the US worst fears at that time. Though the US voted for it, they opposed it.

Your bringing in of the UN and using that as a justification for a Jewish State without seeing that without an Arab state that is worthless, completely meaningless.

No you are historically incorrect. Israel declared her own State after she had taken a bit more land than recommended in the partition non binding resolution.

Have you missed what the whole of the thread is about. It is about removing from Israel, citizens who are not Jews.

That is irrelevant. That is what the thread is about and not just from that Rabbi but from recent polls in Israel.

Well lets see if even the States can support Israel if/when she removes the citizenship of her non Jewish citizens.
The democratic façade is falling.

 

And, for some reason you think that matters?

 

Nobody wants to live in Arabic countries. Most Arabs would be happy to live in Israel. Why do you dismiss this fact, given that NO country in the world is perfect?

 

I don't know. Depends, do you hold everyone to the same standards? What was your reaction when you learned that Hitler dehumanized Jews in his speeches? Did you feel the same? Was it democracy in full glory?

 

The reason it is unattractive to live in West Bank is that Israel rules the civilians there with military law over which the people have NO influence.

And, on top of that, Israel is carrying out ethnic cleansing there, bulldozing the homes of civilians without so much as allowing them to retrieve their personal possessions, building their wall around valuable agricultural land, stealing water rights of those along the Jordon River, chopping down olive orchards, etc.

For you to defend Israel on the basis of people being happier there than in West Bank is just plain DISGUSTING.

In fact, the depths of the moral failure of your statement could not be more profound.

 

Sorry my friend, I'm old but not that old

 

Again. Most Arabs, and not just these living in Judea or Samaria would prefer to live in Israel, and not in Arabic country.

Which part of this is difficult to comprehend?

 

The depths of your moral depravity is what is hard to comprehend.

Purposefully perpetuating the disaster in West Bank, denying all semblance of democracy, the crime of ethnic cleansing, the blockade of Gaza (which is a 10 year continuing act of war), the slaughter of civilians, specific acts designed to damage/destroy the Palestinian economy, denial of aid by other countries, denial even of material for rebuilding homes destroyed by war, denial of electricity, denial of fishing rights in Palestinian waters, etc. - these ARE the reasons that living in Palestine is not attractive.

The fact that some non-Israeli is perpetrating the monumental problems of government in Syria (or other places) is not an excuse for Israel to do exactly the same thing - or worse.

You would like to think this is a RACIAL problem. But, YOUR government is guilty of the charges you level at other governments - including the regional dictatorships of the ME. You want to brag about democracy, but Israel PREVENTS democracy.


The real difference is that through the hard work of Israelis and monumental political and military help from the USA Israel has been able to dominate through force, standing above the rule of law to carry out equivalently criminal policy.

That doesn't make you some kind of good example.

 

No, they would not want.

 

quality of life for Israeli Arabs is better than in most Arab states

 

And you think they care about that because...?

 

they love their children more than they hate Jews?

 

Never.

 

Strange as it may sound to you, some Arabs prefer to live in peace and prosperity and raise kids safely and have normal comfortable life instead of giving in to hate and jihad.

Yea, I know... A fairytale.

 

well that's a joke.

http://gulfnews.com/business/econom...e-middle-east-for-quality-of-living-1.1466490
According to them, it doesn't even make the top 3 in the middle east.
Overal Tel Aviv is ranked over a 100, and Jerusalem didn't even make it on the list.

You can't beat the flow of oilmoney.

 

Yeah well. When the Jew marches through your land, ethnic cleansing around, while also making it impossible to do business.... than killing those hostile war criminal squatters starts to creep up the to do list.

 

Happy 68th, Israel with Millennia more to come

 

Happy 3068th knife in the neck

 

Nor visa versa, eh?
and most importantly,
No UN Blue Helmets were deployed to guarantee the peace, or right to exist.

BTW look at your answer to a Bold Face POINT comment.
Somewhat tangential to the POINT expressed.

If you wish to make a "new" point, do so.
Don't hang it on Moi's quote, please.

And

 

You guys are OUT of your mind. Israel stole their land and installed almost every measure possible to make their life like hell.
A healthy human being will never accept this.

 

And yet, should you approach our borders you will feel God wrath and you can raise all these points with him directly,

Israel is a fact, we won all the wars that were supposed to end us- fact, Jews came and come still to Israel - fact, and wasnt it for the miraculous stupidity of our enemies - we wouldnt have grown pass a narrow coast and wouldnt regain Jerusalem - fact, I have no doubt that if that happened in ancient times Arab actions would be described as God's will.

So far so good, but dont sell yourself short, its your hatred that pushed Jews toward Israel, you too play a part in this story.

 

I think that you are lying not very good man. He said that non-Jews must leave if they don't abide to the 7 Noahide laws.

Do not deny God.
Do not blaspheme God.
Do not murder.
Do not engage in illicit sexual relations.
Do not steal.
Do not eat of a live animal.
Establish courts/legal system to ensure obedience to the law.

I admit this is still a very controversial statement at best. But it's not the nonsense you are trying to sell here as his words.