Obama Decries "Super Pacs", Then Forms One Of His Own

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  1. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look at the Republicans, showing their poutrage here because Obama won't unilaterally disarm and commit political suicide. That's right, Obama is awful because he's been ordered to participate in a gunfight, and is choosing to bring a gun. If he wasn't such a hypocrite, he'd be bringing a knife. Holy toledo, conservatives are dumb.

    But then, the righties here are all hypocrites too, by their own idiot standards. After all, they criticize taxes, but then they pay taxes! Oh, they'll squirm and whine and claim they have no choice, but they're obviously just a bunch of hypocrites. If they weren't such dishonest flipfloppers, they'd be refusing to pay taxes.

    Is there even a single conservative on this thread who has any principles other than "The ends always justify the means for my side!"? Best I can tell, that's the sole principle which conservatives live by. Any lie, any sleaze, any idiot logic -- it's all justified by them, if it furthers their holy cause.
     
  2. Consmike

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    What is going to happen next.

    Obama is going to be against green energy after he was for it?

    Obama is going to sign a peace accord with Iran after putting sanctions on them?
     
  3. k995

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    Care to give any of these lies?
     
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    Obama wins re-election and the cons are forced to keep spreading lies and hysteria for another 4 years.
     
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    Lies?

    Are you stating that Obama did not speak out against Super Pac's and the CS decision involving them?
     
  6. k995

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    Perhaps like bush : claim you dont negotiate while at the same time send someone over to negotiate , or like reagan with the Iran–Contra affair , sell arms to iran or like George H. W. Bush who knew about irangate but never said anything about it and later granted clemency to five convicted government officials and Caspar Weinberger

    Ah yes republicans now how to deal with iran.
     
  7. Consmike

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    I am not stating that either one way or another, just stating that Obama completely reverses course, so I suspect he will do so on other major issues as well.
     
  8. k995

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    To lie is to hold something which one knows is not the whole truth to be the whole truth, intentionally.

    You can say you dont like it, but still use it., thats not lying.


    But of course any excuse is good to say obama is a liar.
     
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    Dems......shaking head........



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    When did he completly reverse course?

    Did he ever state he would never use superpacs?

    ALL republican canidates have said they dont like superpacs , yet they all use them.
     
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    You do realize that you are condoning Obama because Bush did the same thing, don't you? Does that sit well with you? Evidently you weren't really offended by anything Bush did, because if you were you should be dismayed the president you voted for is like him. But of course you're not, because you are just a political hack.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiDiHX50zT4"]Obama Criticizes Supreme Court in State of the Union Address - YouTube[/ame]

    do you people know anything?
     
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    LMAO

    I don't see any hypocrisy in Obama. He has the backing of the union monolith and the academic culture and media.

    Conservative Super PAC's are the only thing that allow us to level the playing field somewhat and finally get to compete with equal funding against Union money.

    You do realize that Democrats have traditionally outspent Republicans almost 2-1 for decades thanks to Super PACs that hide under the Union label right??
     
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    Are you claiming that everything that comes out of the cons' mouths and other orifices is anything other than dishonest, hysterical, hypocritical twaddle?

    Had you people not shot your collective wads crying wolf about everything Obama has done in the past 4 years, your valid political opinions and concerns could have been discussed constructively.
    Instead, you people have spent the past 4 years spouting racist, hysterical, hyperbolic and thoroughly dishonest and hypocritical nonsense and sold your souls to the stormfront crowd and the conspiracy nuts.
    So anything that you say about Obama these days is generally discounted as lies and hysterics from the lunatic fringe.

    You people had your chance to act like adults in 2009 and you all blew it.
    And you still haven't learned that lesson.
     
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    So then you're saying that he knew he was lying a couple years ago when he said he wouldn't use Super Pacs ,- since all of you here agree that if Repubs use them TOO well, then it's okay for Obama to back off....

    and none of you are going to admit that you leftists are too stupid to realize ahead of time that the Repubs might use them TOO well?

    The only conclusion is that he KNEW he was lying 3 years ago.
     
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    Hey! There aren't that many of them that are racist!

    It's Liberalism that causes the topic of race to come into Liberals' conversation over and over and over and over and over, and to then be projected toward the Cons.

    It seems to me that the foundation of Racism is having race on your mind so much of the time.

    A true non-racist doesn't think about color, doesn't notice color, and doesn't see racism where it doesn't exist. In fact, a true non-racist doesn't even see it very well where it DOES exist, because he/she is so unconscious of difference measured by skin color.
     
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    As a good little practicing leftist loser, he does not practice what he preaches. To expect principled responses from Obama is to expect too much, as is clear.
     
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    We are talking about Obama here first and foremost.

    The reason we are talking about this because of the big stink Obama made about these super pac's and corp funding etc.

    We have not spend the last four years doing anything that you claim. On the contrary, the so called occupy movement which is backed by Obama, is violent to the core.

    And 2010 was after 2009, and 2010 was the largest gain in seats in the past 50+ years, and they were picked up by the gop and many tea party members.

    you fail again.
     
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    HA

    In the eyes of the Left.. that was just a fluke and in 2012 the "permanent majority" will reestablish their tyrannical super majority and Nancy Pelosi will once again rule America with an iron hand from behind Obama's throne.
     
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    Not if you have integrity.
     
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    Bit touchy are we?

    I havent seen anything close to the level of Hypocrisy republicans have shown with iran. And its actually quite funny, take bush for example. I didnt mind him sending people to negotiatie with iran, but not wanting to admit it just shows the mindset and shows he clearly think the average US citizen is a fool.
     
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    omg...hes even living in Bushs old house!!!! spooky!
     
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    Always with the lies :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2004#Finance

    2004 :
    George W. Bush (R) $367,227,801
    John Kerry (D) $326,236,288


    1993-2002
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campai...ed_States#Soft_money_raised_between_1993-2002


    Party 1993-1994 1995-1996 1997-1998 1999-2000 2001-2002
    Democratic Party 45.6 million 122.3 million 92.8 million 243 million 199.6 million
    Republican Party 59.5 million 141.2 million 131.6 million 244.4 million 221.7 million

    http://www.fec.gov/press/bkgnd/pres_cf/pres_cf.shtml

    http://www.fec.gov/press/bkgnd/pres_cf/atm0930/pres1999q3rec.pdf


    The 2008 election where the first in at least 2 decades where democrats raised more money.

    But as little children republicans quickly turned to condemn this, and now want to rewrite history. When they raise more money, its fair when democrats do it, its unfair . :lol:
     
  25. k995

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    Actually mostly republicans are making a big stink because it is disrupting there own primary in quite a negative way.

    3backed by obama ?" always funny sch claims.

    Got any sources to support this?

    And they did absolutly nothing with it, they just used to to hamper obama .
     

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