Obama is NOT a Good President. So Why Is He Winning With Independents?

"a few months". Do we hold elections "every few months" now?

 

Don't get discouraged by the repeated lies and the ridiculous spin of the Right! That's why they keep on ranting and raving with posts that contain no factual evidence but just repeat what their "leader," mostly Limbaugh, cares to spin!

I take a rest every few days, and I'm back again, trying to present links and factual evidences. . .but it doesn't do anygood with the most brainwashed.

Still, I come back, and I go to many places and call their lies and their stupid, often racist and offensive, comments!

By the way, I tried to rep you a couple of times, but I think we are "limited" . . . although I'm not sure if the "Right" posters are limited. . .the "pecking order" is pretty noticeable!

 

For a member of a political forum you seem to be woefully uninformed. Remember the death of Ted Kennedy? Shortly after the dems filibuster proof majority was gone.

Here you go, I researched it for you as I know most on the right are completely stymied by google.

http://polipundit.com/?p=28927

Obamacare is the product of a brief moment of total Democratic dominance in Washington. Key to that dominance was a 60-seat, filibuster-proof Senate majority. It wasn’t a sure bet for Democrats; despite victories in 2008, the party’s hopes for that majority depended on the outcome of a contested race in Minnesota. After a controversial recount, Al Franken became the 60th Democratic senator on July 7, 2009, giving Democrats an unassailable edge.

But that majority disappeared just 49 days later when, on August 25, 2009, Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Ted Kennedy died. State law called for a special election to fill the empty seat. That would have taken months, and as public opposition to Obamacare grew, Democrats became increasingly anxious to pass the bill as quickly as possible. Luckily for them, Democrats in the Massachusetts legislature came to the rescue, changing the law to allow the immediate appointment of Democrat Paul Kirk. Kirk was sworn in on September 24, 2009, giving Democrats 60 votes once more.

After Obamacare passed the House on November 7 — over the opposition of 39 Democrats and all but one Republican — Senate Democrats raced to get the job done. Threatening to keep the Senate in session through the holidays, they finally passed the bill — 60 Democratic votes, not one to spare — in the early hours of Christmas Eve.

Even as that vote was taken, a little-known Massachusetts Republican named Scott Brown was rising in the polls in the race for Kennedy’s seat — by promising to become the 41st vote against Obamacare. On January 19, Brown’s victory shocked the political world. When he was sworn in on February 4, the second period of a Democratic filibuster-proof majority was over. It had lasted 134 days.

 

Umm.. why can't you see that according to past recessions.. this "steady improvement" under Obama isn't anything to brag about?

When judged against past recessions, it is the eqivalent of failure.

"growth" isn't good enough.

We need "massive growth" as in, a god (*)(*)(*)(*)ed decade long ECONOMIC BOOM.

Unless he brings on that.. he isn't worth (*)(*)(*)(*) to us.

When I see 4-5% growth consistently every year and a million jobs created every month like Reagan did.. then maybe you have something to brag about. Until then he's a loser and failure.

 

Yes. . .we are still suffering from the consequences of the worse recession since the great depression!

So what. .you think that all those jobs lost under Bush BEFORE Obama took office, would just "reappear" when a new President took over?

You think that the drastic drop on Wall Street would have no consequences? You think that the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy just stopped increasing the deficit when Bush left office?

All those factors are making poor people and lower middle class fall down further, and they NEED more help. . .thus more food stamps, and more unemployment benefits!

Any smart, fair person can look at the history and realize WHY food stamps and unemployment went up. . .and that the two programs are obviously linked!

But. . .I'm sure you will find a way to deny reality again.

That's okay, I'll be back to express that reality again!

 

And. . .obviously, you think that McCain would have brought us "massive growth?" Or that one of the GOP candidate will suddenly make it happen?
Obviously, if they are elected, they will be inheriting a MUCH better economy than the one that existed 4 years ago AND one less, very expensive war!. . .But that will be quickly forgotten by the liers and the imbeciles on the right!

What a joke!

 

If you want the American economy to grow then you are going to have kiss the asses of the only people who are capable of doing it.

The god (*)(*)(*)(*)ed rich you hate so much.

Poor people don't mean (*)(*)(*)(*) economically and cannot spend us into growth.

 

Sure, let's create another bubble so we can do the whole merry go round all over again in 10 years.

 

What you ignorantly call "a bubble" most people call "the business cycle"

 

Really? So you mean to tell me that every ten years or so, we can expect government to bail out "too big to fail" corporations who acted recklessly. If that's the case, capitalism sure seems to have a couple great big glaring flaws doesn't it?

 

The Bush tax cuts are nothing compared to our FAILED social welfare programs that are full of fraud. I feel bad for the poor who get on welfare. Its the best system at keeping you poor and dependent of others.

 

Let's not forget the two wars whose cost Bush never included in his budgets. It wasn't until Obama took office that the cost of those wars was included in the budgets and hence the deficit.

 

I agree. But most of this reckless behavior was the government's fault:

1)Fannie and freddie were created and run by the government
2) the government also implemented some things that required companies to do things they likely wouldnt have done normally.

 

Funny, then, that those "job creators," haven't made the economy growth tenfold during the years following Bush's kissing their butt and deeping their cheeks in gold from the new tax cuts made just for them!

So. . .what happened? Why didn't the economy grow from 2006 through 2009? Why isn't it growing now? Do you think that those very wealthy become wealthier by foregoing making business investment that would bring them profits, even if those profits are a couple of percents lower than what they really would want?

Does it make sense to you that ANY business person would decide to fold their business, and not invest anymore, because they would ONLY make $1 million profit on a business venture instead of $1.2 million?

You don't seem to know much about economics. . .and certainly NOTHING about business psychology!

Would you give up going to work for $175,000 a year, just because you can't get $180,000 a year?

DUH!

 

CBS Poll: Independents Prefer Ron Paul Vs Obama
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/01/09/cbs-poll-independents-prefer-ron-paul-vs-obama/

<and the independents who don't are just as dumb as the rest of the population>

 

Fannie and Freddie were only a small part of the problem. What led to the meltdown more than anything was deregulation.

 

cough, cough, federal reserve guarantees for the too big to exist.

 

All of which was in place before Obama took office, yet somehow the right still considers it his fault.

 

I only blame obama for the healthcare mandate and the bailouts. This has been a LONG time in the making. And sure while the housing market might have been a "small" part of it, it started this whole process.

 

If republicans had cooperated in creating a single payer system, the health care mandate wouldn't have been necessary.

BTW, in 1993, the healthcare mandate was being championed by republicans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/h...andate-was-first-backed-by-conservatives.html

 

It matters when a President is spending close to 5billion dollars per day. And yes I did vote for McCain because I was smart enough to see the writing on the wall. And luckily for the America, alot of people are starting to wake up and see the something.

 

Yep. . .maybe (although this independent doesn't), but the fact is that. . . Ron Paul won't be a choice in November 2012!

 

Do you realize these are the exact same methods used during the entire Bush administration?

 

What in the ---- has he done that you have the balls to call him a great president????????? he hasnt done (*)(*)(*)(*)!!!!!!!!!

 

And what has the GOP accomplished?