Obamacare More Popular Than Ever

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Today, health care insurance corporations limit your choice of provider as well as constraining what procedures and medications may be used.

    The choice you think you have isn't gaining you much of anything at all, and it is being controlled by corporate interests that are following a pure profit motive. That was true before the ACA, at a time when insurance companies could simply drop you for being sick, could refuse to sell you coverage at any price, etc.

    Having a single payer system does NOT mean you can't do such things as buy insurance to cover stuff not in the basic system, choose to pay for services outside the system, etc. And, you get to vote on what the system provides.

    I don't believe you are "too stupid to make intelligent choices". I DO think that insurance companies are in it to make money, and that given permission such as with our old system, they have proven fully willing to ignore things like your need for health care.

    Also, all other first world nations pay less for health care than we do - and, paying less is an important objective. So, ignoring how they manage to do that is a choice we should not be too stupid to consider.
     
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    I'm just reading the CBO.

    And, Ryan has not said anything at all about being interested in covering all Americans.

    Nor has Trump outside of his little tweet fiasco which his team walked back.
     
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    Phew. I dodged a bullet there eh?
     
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    After all the other things that have been handled by the government, why would you think they would be any more fiscally savvy with the people's health coverage?

    As with the PPACA, all revenues were channeled into the General Fund... which means the physical cash could be used for any appropriation they saw fit. The bookkeeping would show one thing, the actual cash another. Do you think they would do any different if it were UHC? I've never known a governmental type let a cash cow go.......

    I already pay for things that my insurance won't. It's a choice I make for my health care.

    Of course most insurance companies are in it for the money, most businesses are. I just don't believe the government would be any different, see my statement two lines up...
     
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    since we know that pollsters and the MSM lied thru their teeth about Don and the beech, why believe a word of what they say?
     
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    Wall Street Journal and other pro business media are "liberal" to the right wing when their reports do not suit the interests or bias of the deluded far right.
     
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    your KKK quote on Duke implies you don't know what you are talking about. There was a time when public education and tv documentaries were all you had for info,barring digging through government archives. Today,however,the truth is only a few clicks away,yet you embrace the lies. David Duke is asked to speak all around the world in front of a variety of ethnic groups. The KKK arose from white disenfranchisement,in some states it was %100. While the Jacobins put blacks,who couldn't even write their name on a piece of paper in charge of everything in the South.

    I know a few minutes of research might hurt your head,so here is a couple of SOURCE articles from the time.
    A voice from the South Weekly Intelligencer Wed May 30th 1866
    "Do you suppose these men would have surrendered if they were to suppose the negro would be made better than the white man?
    And that they were henceforth to be governed by men elected by negro votes,while they themselves were excluded from voting?
    They would never have surrendered,death would be preferable to such a dishonor."
    General Ewell
    http://atlnewspapers.galileo.usg.ed...brand=atlnewspapers-j2k-brand#page/1/mode/1up
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    Wed 22nd 1866
    "We are without voice in the government,without political power.Without means of asserting our rights under the written Constitution"
    SJ Pinkerton
    http://atlnewspapers.galileo.usg.ed...rand=atlnewspapers-j2k-brand#page/n0/mode/1up
     

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