Obamacare More Popular Than Ever

Yes - on the one hand that's hilarious.

On the other hand, it shows the brain damage the GOP propagated among Republicans.

 

Obamacare is the Titanic and I choose to be in a lifeboat...

 

Big Mac is more popular than ever too, your point is?

 

Isn't that the way with many imperfect things in life: You won't miss them until they are gone.

That's exactly how many Americans seem to feel right now. It was easy to call for repeal of the ACA when there was no chance of doing so. Now, that the chance is real and that there is a good possibility that it will be just repealed without replacement (resulting in possibly 10s of millions uninsured), opinion suddenly changes.

The fact is that a sizable majority of Americans always supported the idea of universal health insurance. Some of them just disagreed with the way the ACA tried to achieve it.

The lesson for the GOP is: Don't repeal without replacement. And the replacement must not just pay lip service to universal coverage.

 

Is that what your leftist teachers are telling you? How sad.

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these pollster keep putting out these skewed polls that heavily over sample democrats and ignorant liberals keep falling for them every dam time
didn't you learn a dam thing from the last election?
Ignorance isn't knowing something ignorance is being shown the truth and still refusing to learn from it


here learn something

Fake Polls? How CNN And ABC Are Fudging The Numbers To Tank Trump’s Favorability
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/17/f...rs-to-tank-trumps-favorability/#ixzz4WD3ZxsVi

show me the party affiliation breakdown of the poll you just posted

 

I went and looked up the party affiliation break down for you because I know you wouldn't make the time or effort to learn something

QF4 Generally speaking, do you think of yourself as a Democrat, a Republican, an independent, or something
else? (IF "DEMOCRAT" OR "REPUBLICAN," ASK Would you call yourself a strong (Democrat/Republican)
or not a very strong (Democrat/Republican)? (IF "NOT SURE," CODE AS "NOT VERY STRONG
DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN.") (IF "INDEPENDENT," ASK Do you think of yourself as closer to the
Republican Party, closer to the Democratic Party, or do you think of yourself as strictly independent? (IF
"NOT SURE," CODE AS "STRICTLY INDEPENDENT.")
Strong Democrat .............................22
Not very strong Democrat ...............10
Independent/lean Democrat ............9
Strictly Independent.........................17
Independent/lean Republican ..........11
Not very strong Republican .............8
Strong Republican ...........................16
Other (VOL) ...................................5
Not sure .........................................2

yep I was right the poll you posted heavily over sampled democrats. right now the nation self identifies as being 28% republican and 25% democrat. this poll had a 32% democrat 24% republican sample over sampled democrats by 7 and under sampled republicans by 4

 

We are smart enough to know that these polls are skewed. But Libs who were burned over 90% of their bodies by these polls during the election, STILL haven't learned not to take polls seriously. I find that totally amazing, since they like to tout their faux "intelligence." But they never disappoint in making us laugh...

 

The skewed polls is what cost Clinton the election. those skewed polls convinced Clinton and her team that they had Wisconsin Michigan and Pennsylvania all wrapped up so she went off chasing unicorns trying to flip red states which those very same polls falsely showed she had a chance to flip

 

So now these same pollsters tell us that everyone LOVES Obama AND Obamacare, even though that was what hillary ran on, & what trump ran against. So the election was not real, & the votes did not count.. what matters is the phony narratives pitched by the progressive media, & all their stupid enablers.

 

Please in what sort of math is 45% more than 55%.

 

Yea, 20 million covered kind of propaganda that turned into reality, that they want to keep.

 

The sort of math that says, the more who sign up, the more they want it. That kind of math.

 

The polls weren't skewed because Clinton tallied more total votes by 2.1% than Trump. That doesn't include the 6 to 8 million votes that were never counted because of the various voter suppression schemes.

 

20 million who signed up say it isn't. What's your excuse?

 

He just made the point. "What to do, what to do"!

 

And those polls are still accurate. She won most of the votes. And that just happens to be a fact.

 

Crappy insurance was already the norm before Obamacare, while 40 to 50 million had no insurance at all. That figure has since changed to 20 million who do have it. If you can't see that change, go back to school and learn a little math.

 

You do realize the mandate was in place years before Obamacare, right? You do know that when Reagan put into law that no one would be turned down for care, even if they did not pay, the pro-rated increase went to people who do pay for insurance? You were forced to pay the increase when you yourself got care. That is the same exact thing as the mandate you currently complain about. The doctors and hospitals are not going to lose. That's why you will and are forced to pay extra.

 

And a sizable portion of the US population would like the government to stay the hell out of their health care. I am one.

The PPACA, and likely anything that replaces any part of it, will not bother to address the driving factors in the cost of actual healthcare, and for many that is the actual concern. The PPACA, and any mandatory requirement to purchase insurance are band aids, nothing more.

The EPI pen fiasco kind of highlighted the greed levels of big Pharma. For how many years can they claim recapturing R&D costs as just cause for the pricing games they play? Synthetic insulin patents that are repeatedly extended that prevent generics, ad nauseam?

 

Clinton lost because of Trump winning states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The reason why Clinton lost those states because she spent hardly any time of money in those staes. Instead in the last weeks of the campaign she was off chasing unicorns in red states under the absurd notion she would flip those staes. She was dreaming of a land slide

And here is why Clinton didn't spend any time or money in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. The biased skewed polls told her she didn't need to she had them in the bag

Here look at this

Pennsylvania
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tein-5964.html

Wisconsin
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tein-5976.html

Michigan
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tein-6008.html


As you can see especially in Michigan and Wisconsin these polls were woefully embarrassingly off up to 8 point off in one poll

The Clinton campaign seeing these polls made a decision they had these states wrapped up. No need to go there to campaign, waste time, and money. And Because of their arrogance wanted a landslide so they instead went to red states in a failed attempt to flip them.

The liberal media, pollsters, and democrat operatives know this, they know they screwed up with these polls. Polls that convinced Clinton not to campaign in those states, but like all liberals because of their elitist arrogance they cant admit their own failures, wont take responsibility for their poor decisions. So to save face to hold on the little bit of credibility they think they have left what do they do? As always create a narrative so to point the finger else where. The Russians is the reason Clinton lost, Comey is the reason Clinton lost

So wake up and smell the coffee Democrats except realty. Clinton lost because of your beloved liberal media and their pollsters not because of Russia or Comey

 

The 'mandate' to have insurance did not exist prior to the PPACA. One could be un-insured, or carry catastrophic type plans if they wanted to.

Paying extra (either by cash or via premiums) for people who do not/cannot pay, at the time of service is one thing, but paying for insurance (a front loaded method of payment) for people who may or may not use it is another ball game. A captive cliental for the insurance companies, nothing more.

Many who have the subsidized insurance don't use it because they can't afford the out of pocket, deductible, or co pays. So that is effective, how?

 

No they aren't not the state polls not in the states she needed to win national polls are worthless when we don't elect a president according to the national vote we elect presidents by state wide votes

 

Actually I don't need to. I'm a CPA. What it tells me is that the 80% who did have good insurance prior to this debacle now have garbage insurance and are paying for that 20-30 million that are now getting it for free. TANSTAFL