Obama's Gay Marriage Evolution is Offensive to God and America

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  1. sammy

    sammy Well-Known Member

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    Don't be fooled, the study was probably paid for by the Gay minority.
    There wasn't a large enough sample size available that could be taken.
    If there were, you would find children raised in gay families would probably have
    more than the average number of problems.

    And what about the children of gay men?
    Do they do better also?

    The article comes from Time, a democrat propaganda rag and the author Alice Park
    is a pro gay fraud. Nice try though.


    In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
    Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math.
     
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    :laughing: of course it was!

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    Because they published it, does that mean they did the study? :laughing:

    Ahhh the comedy from the myth fearing right.
     
  4. sammy

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    The minority that votes for Obama in 2012 will care that their vote was in vain.

    Obama will waste Wall Street money from his banker friends and they will care.

    Obama can outspend Romney 2 to 1, but in the end God will perform a miracle
    and bless Romney with a presidential win.


    In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
    Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math.
     
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    The religious reich gets more and more delusional everyday.
     
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    I find nothing offensive about Obama's evolution on gay marriage. Being gay is not a choice that one makes. Gay unions need to be recognized and given the same rights as heterosexual unions. Whether these unions are recognized by a church or not remains up to the church.

    Marriage is not just about having children. When gay couples choose to raise children, they generally adopt. The children are not harmed in any way.
     
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    i hope you figure it out before it's too ,late. though personal pride has taken may straight to hell.
     
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    Diesel Power New Member

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    wrong!

    Children are harmed in every way, having two dads or two moms is not NORMAL! Children need a mom and a dad of opposite sex, thats how God made it , thats how it should be.

    Gays are not born this way, they choose to be this way. Only Jesus christ can help them change and turn from there sin. Jesus has changed the lives and midsets of millions, gays are no different, They can accept Christ as many others have.

    satan is useing his imoral tools to confuse and disrupt this once Godly nation and it's evident this all is coming to a quick end here soon. Christ will return, after this it's too late for those who are not born again. (saved)
     
  9. Libhater

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    One look at your avatar and we can see that GOD sometimes does make mistakes.
     
  10. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Sadly "Christians" have violated that principle since the founding of America and the historical evidence is compelling. When it comes to marriage overwhelmingly the myopic "Christian" definition "marriage" has been embodied under the laws of the States and the religious beliefs of others have been trampled under foot.

    We can use the example of polygamy which is commonly accepted in roughly 78% of the world's cultures and is a documented religious belief of the Mormon Church, albeit denied by Church leaders today because they were forced to abandon it in the 19th Century for Utah to become a State. Still there are roughly 50,000 polygamous families in the United States based upon the Mormon religious teachings. Polygamy doesn't meet the accepted "Christian" religious beliefs although it is a documented religious belief in the Bible. There are Jews, Christians and Muslims that all engage in polygamous marriages because it is a part of their religious beliefs but those marriages are denied legal status in the United States and that violates their Rights as Individuals to exercise their religious beliefs under the US Constitution.

    There are those that have religious/philisophical beliefs that embrace same-gender marriage but the "Christians" that control our government deny these individuals their Right to exercise their Religious Beliefs under the laws of the United States in violation of the First Amendment. We have blatant religious intolerance in the United States by "Christians" that deny the freedom of consenting adults to exercise their own personal religious beliefs by engaging in the legal institution of marriage.

    Laws that limit marriage based upon "Christian" theocractic law violate the First Amendment's protections of Freedom of Religion.
     
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    uh-huh

    [​IMG]

    He's alwasys coming, but never shows up. Did he take a wrong turn at Albuquerque?????
     
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    Any gods that may be offended by homosexuality are perfectly capable of making their opinions known without any help from the likes of you. Although, considering the fact that the gods are spirit beings that lack physical bodies, why they'd even care about human sexuality in the first place is quite beyond me. Really, if you think about it, what good reason could a god have to meddle in something like that? The only reason I can think of for a god to do such a thing would be if they wanted to manipulate and control the humans they were dealing with, which does not imply a terribly benign intent.

    Interesting that you should bring up Sodom and Gomorrah. If someone nuked a couple of cities because they thought the people of those cities weren't having sex the right way, we wouldn't hesitate to call that person an evil homicidal maniac, would we? and yet Christians seem to hold Yahweh to a far lower moral standard then any of us would hold a human to. Is Yahweh morally challenged or something? Perhaps he needs remedial classes? Regardless, moral pronouncements from someone who'd do such a thing don't exactly carry any weight in my book.

    Soooo, we would should all have sex the way you say we should, or your buddy Jesus is going to come and beat us all up? Oh dear, I'm shaking in my boots! Tell me, what is the moral distinction between saying that and saying "Give me all your money or my pal Vinny here is a gonna break your legs."? Well aside from the fact that Vinny standing there menacingly smacking a baseball bat in his palm is a considerably more credible threat then some crazy carpenter who died two millennia ago.

    Incidentally, "normal" does not mean the same thing as "morally right." Not so very long ago it was considered normal to lynch black folks who got "uppity." That doesn't even come close to making it right. The obverse that if something isn't normal it cannot be morally right is no more valid.
     
  13. sammy

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    If gay marriage is granted status as a civil right, churches will probably be forced to marry gay couples. This is what the liberal left and gay movement desire. They basically want to destroy the church because they know the Christian bible and God are directly opposed to gay marriage.

    In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
    Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math.
     
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    Hate to break it to you, but generally speaking neither the liberal left nor the gay rights movement care even slightly about your church, the Christian book, or Yahweh. They're simply not relevant to each other. In any case, the vast majority of folks in the gay rights movement - heck, the vast majority of people in general - just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace. Is your definition of "destroying the church" preventing that church from oppressing people who simply want to be left alone? If it is, that makes me seriously question the nature of this church of yours.

    (Facepalm) Yea gods, maybe the folks who say that public education is a complete failure have a point.... There was this little thing back in the 1930's called the Great Depression, perhaps you've heard of it? It kind of involved unemployment hitting 25%....

    Actually, for that matter, there was this little thing a while back called a recession. It involved a shrinking economy, one that was losing jobs...

    And speaking of math, the vast majority of students graduate from college in the spring. You know, like right now? Even those schools that do graduate people at other times in addition to the spring only do so a few times a year. So you're comparing most of an entire year's worth of college graduates to a single month's worth of job creation. Quick quiz - is this a valid statistical analysis? I'll give you a hint, the answer is no.

    Yanno, Sammy, you really need to stop watching Fox News. They're serving some seriously bad koolaide there. They also blatantly make stuff up, and use every underhanded and dishonest rhetorical trick in the book to get people panicking and thinking the sky is falling because of Democrats. This bears absolutely no relation to reality whatsoever.
     
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    dunno about God but it sure does not poll well with Blacks, Hispanics, and old people who live in Florida. Someone screwed up mightily here and I am willing to bet it wasn't Axelrod or Plouffe
     
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    Excuse me ,can i use the rots,declines and falls ,for a description of the un-USA?

    descibes US Imperialism in this period well,i like US Imperialism ,a lunatic with a nuclear razorblade in its back pocket.


    Or ,US Imperialism ,the former greatest Nation on the Planet!

    Or ,US Imperialism a" failed Nation State" as the DOW drops under 12000 ,guess whats coming ,you ain't seen nothing yet.As the GFC mk 2 takes off will the US treasury come up with another $7 000 000 000 000 to stave off DEPRESSION ????????

    Its over the chickens of debt creation ,Capitialism on Credit not Profit are coming home to roost.can you hear the clucking in the Whitehouse yet ,as Obama chooses the drone targets in Pakistan ,Mass murderer that he is ,the economy is going AGAIN down the shute ,how will they attempt to explain what has happened and about to happen is even beyond me ,they are running on Intellectual empty ,and the answer of US Politics in opposition to this ,is MITT ROMNEY ,pack it in its OVER!

    Oh and the "gay and lesbian "thingy from hell ,is a DIVERSION away from the real important political questions confrounting Millions.
     
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    Gay is NOT a lifestyle choice ,you have to be kidding ,even every Gay identifier ,had to recognise homosexuality which is what is NOT a choice .

    gay and lesbian are lifestyle choices ,saying Gay or lesbian and trying to attach these terms to homosexuality is a choice ,isn't it ,as many Homosexxuals can't stand how gay and lesbian stupids act and CHOOSE to act ,bringing normal homosexual people into disrepute collectively !

    To be a poofy ,gay lifestyler is a choice to be that way ,we in the Homosexual ,bisexual community DON"T like them as they are very odd silly people usally totally air headed and drugged out,we call them the "scene"and quite frankly they are obscene.Middle class boys and Girls with a chip on their shoulders,and nothing to do with Social equality or the fight against discrimination ,how can the sons and daughters of the upper middle class rich Liberal lifestyle crowd {obamas social base],be oppressed ,none of them are factory workers ,none of them have done a decent days manual work in their pitiful self absorbed lives,always protected by mummy and daddy ,entitled and absurd,Gay and lesbian are Lifestyle choices ,homosexuality ISNT!

    They are so Gay and ridiculous its shamefull that a human thinks Gay and Lesbian .

    [except for happy people and the Inhabitants of greece]

    The special middle class entitled that mummy and Daddy overprotected.Thats who are the gay and lesbians of this word ,and when they go to University they all congregate and spew their anti-science collectively!
     
  18. sammy

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    As in May when we only had 69K private sector jobs created, until that bogus BLS/Obama number gets downgraded next month. We had at least 500K graduates looking for jobs in May and probably alot more.

    That doesn't even include the high-school graduates looking for a job in May as they know they are graduating in June.

    Back in the Great Depression, we didn't have 500K graduates with huge college loans to pay and no jobs
    for them. It's far worse in the Great Obama Depression, if you consider that liberal policies since then have created new problems.

    In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
    Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math.
     
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    So you're saying that effeminate men are "gay" and everyone else is "homosexual" or "bisexual", yes? And that effeminate is just a show that they put on that is anti-science? I see.

    Do you know the history of the word "homosexual"...like it's origins? When it comes to science I would do a little more reading into your self-identification and why, perhaps, many gay men are effeminate before you criticize them like they're some byproduct of bourgeoisie living. That's very unfair and judgmental of people.

    As for the workers you describe...they'd have to be like, well, working to retain the title. The Chinese...they work their asses off. The Mexicans...work, work, work. Greece... you never hear, "those (*)(*)(*)(*) Grecians, (*)(*)(*)(*) all man, but they're some hard workers."
     
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    True.

    In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
    Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math.
     
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    One look at your avatar name and one can see that some proclaim God but don't follow his teaching.

    1 John 4:20
    If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.



    Mark 12:31
    "Love thy neighbor as thyself"
     
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    Please explain why you think it's valid, meaningful, or just not phenomenally stupid to compare the number of graduates in a year to the number of jobs created in a month.

    Please explain why you think the BLS numbers are bogus. Oh, wait, let me guess. Any information that doesn't support your partisan point of view must obviously be a lie fabricated by those evil people who dare to disagree with you, am I right?

    Things are worse now then in the Great Depression? You can't possibly be serious. I'm sorry, I refuse to believe that anyone who can manage to plug in a computer without electrocuting themselves could possibly be that stupid. Where are the breadlines? Where are the millions of Americans forced to live in makeshift camps and shantytowns in public parks and on the outskirts of towns? Where are the doctors and lawyers living on the streets? Where are the stock brokers jumping out of windows? Where's the 25% unemployment?

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    Incidentally, if you assert that homosexuality is a choice, that implies that heterosexuality is also a choice. If homosexuals are really attracted to members of the opposite sex and just choose to be with members of the same sex, that also implies that heterosexuals are really attracted to members of the same sex and just choose to be with members of the opposite sex. Essentially, you're saying that you believe that everyone - including you - is really bisexual. Your position is an implicit admission that you have same sex attractions.
     
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    Close those colleges! All they do is create unemployed people.
     
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    I know that I never made a choice. I was never attracted to the same sex. Your experience was apparently different. <<< Mod Edit: Flamebaiting >>>
    Gays and straights are born the way they are. Their upbringing has nothing to do with their sexuality.
     
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    Silly!! Gays are a part of the Catholic and Protestant groups.
     
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