Obama's Gay Marriage Evolution is Offensive to God and America

Sorry, Chicken Little. the sky is not falling. Your "probably" can not happen under The First Amendment.

As for your math, it's just as poor as your American History.

 

Well, at least it shouldn't happen under the First Amendment but to date "Christians" have overwhelmingly been able to force their religious beliefs on marriage on all of America in defiance of the First Amendment protections for the Right of Individuals to practice their personal religious beliefs. For example, polygamy which is a documented religious belief of the Bible, Koran and the Mormon official doctrines, is prohibited because myopic Christian's have been able to force their personal religious beliefs of marriage being between one man and one woman on all of America.

Christians don't believe in religious freedom except as it applies to Christians and willingly violate the religious freedoms of anyone that is not a Christian. They've been doing that since the founding of America.

 

Um... nope. God did not write the Bible, men did. Ever read the chapters? Luke? John? Mark?

What verses say that homosexuality is wrong?

 

Heh, so the upcoming election is going to be God vs Obama? It won't be looking too good for God if Obama wins then, will it? First that whole rebellious angels thing, and now this..

 

I want to see God's official birth certificate!!!!

Jesus Christ, if he was found in America today, would be deported as an illegal alien based upon the criteria established by the Social Conservatives.

 

Probably executed as a long hair hippie socialist.

Conservatives simply do not understand Christianity very well, they love the word "Jesus" but they seem to read of the Old Testament.

 

The number of US college graduates in 2012 will be 3.4 M according to the census, so 500K is a very low estimate of the true number. It's closer to 1 Million graduate looking for jobs in May 2012 alone.

Some of them will find one of the 69K jobs produced in the private sector in May, but that still leaves 931,000
graduates jobless.


I met such a graduate yesterday at my McDonalds drive through taking my order and he takes orders outside on a hand-held computer, in the sweltering sun. Not exactly cool!

I don't think he makes much money but he probably owes a lot in student loans and it is an honest job that utilizes his computer training I guess.

Considering the low probablity of finding a job, he is the lucky one in this Obama economy.

 

God inspired men who wrote the Bible.

I read Luke, John and Mark and they were all against homosexuality and gay marriage when it was mentioned. The Bible is remarkably consistent and stood the test of time. The Old Testament and New Testament agree
in principle also and do not violate each other. More proof this is no ordinary book.

See Lev. 18:22 'Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable'.
Most of us know where the word sodomy comes from, don't we?

Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, arsenokoitēs, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God. And this is what some of you used to be. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

The word arsenokoitēs (ἀρσενοκοίτη&#962 has been variously rendered as "abusers of themselves with mankind" (KJV), "sodomites" (YLT), or "men who practice homosexuality."



In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math


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So were you going to attempt to be intellectually honest concerning Leviticus?

20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Do you support killing homosexuals? Yes or no. In what verse does Jesus support Lev. 20:13?

 

Don't be silly, one of the 10 commandments is "Thou Shalt not kill!"

That is just crazy talk on your part and has nothing to do with God.

Jesus supports Lev 20:13 by stating how important the entire Bible is:

Jesus said of it, "Man does not live on bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God" (Matthew 4:4). In other words, if we want to live life to the fullest, as God intended, we must listen to and heed God's written Word.

Note Jesus didn't say we shall remove those portions that condemn sin like homosexuality.
Now to do so, would be just as crazy as your first question.

In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math

 

This is nothing more than your opinion. Next

 

Why do you think it has outsold ever book in history and why is it called the "Holy" Bible?
Think now, Think!


In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates sought to enter the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math!

 

Relevance?

Fear mongering at its finest.

We survived Bush, we'll survive O-bum-ba

 

A disturbingly large number of people in the US seem to be under the impression that "freedom of religion" actually means "the freedom to impose your religion on others."

Umm, Sammy, asking you to justify comparing the number of graduates in a year to the number of jobs created in a month is not asking you to go find the total number of graduates in a year. Most graduates start their job search well before they graduate, and it's neither unusual nor unexpected, even in good times, for it to take some time after graduation to actually find a job. comparing a group of people who are probably going to be spending an average of something like a year each looking for jobs just in the normal course of events to the number of jobs created in a single month is just silly.

And it was the Obama economy until around mid 2010 or so. Ever since then, the Republicans have been successfully using every dirty trick in the book to keep the economy frozen in place and people out of work. It's kind of like someone shutting off the fire hydrant and then complaining that the firefighters haven't finished putting out the fire.

The people who wrote the christians' book were inspired by Yahweh, huh?

I may be inspired by the life of Martin Luther King Jr, that doesn't mean I know the first thing about how he thought. But let's set that aside for a moment.

Did the people who wrote the thing actually explicitly say that they were recording what Yahweh directly told them? If not, then didn't you just decide the inspired thing all on your own? But let's set that aside for a moment, too.

Even if a human is taking direct dictation from Yahweh or any other god, that does not make them any less human, any less fallible, or any less subject to misunderstanding, misinterpreting, or just plain mistranscribing what they're being told. But let's set that aside for the moment, too.

Even if you have a document that was undeniably directly written by Yahweh himself, so what? Evil, bigoted nonsense is evil bigoted nonsense, no matter who says it. Even if the person who says it is a god. If someone tells you to murder your own son in cold blood to show how much you love them, that's wrong, that's evil, and so is whoever would say such a thing. If someone tells you to murder your neighbor because they're having sex the wrong way, that's also evil. You know the character of a person by their actions, regardless of whether that person is human or divine. What is the character of a person who would blow up entire cities because some of the people there are having sex the wrong way? What is the character of a person who would wipe out an entire civilization with a titanic flood because they're bored? What is the character of a person who would condemn their own son to a horrible death because they want their blood sport before they'll forgive people for any transgressions?

In any case, while I haven't read that book myself, everything I've heard about it leads me to think that the only way you could possibly claim it's entirely self consistent is if you haven't read it at all yourself.

Because it's full of holes?

And considering that bestseller lists include drivel like Twilight, sales figures are not exactly the best measure of how seriously to take a book. For that matter, how many copies has Playboy sold?

 

I wonder how many Christians realize that the belief that God inspired the men that wrote the Bible originated in the following declaration:

This declaration was made in 1943 by Pope Pius XII of the Catholic Church.

http://www.ancient-future.net/bible.html

The Bible was written by perhaps extraordinary individuals but it remains the writings of men about their beliefs in their god and nothing more. In a very real sense it is no different than the writings by the Greeks, Romans or Norsemen about their beliefs in their gods.

 

False! There are ~ 3.4 Million college graduate in 2012 according to the census.
The majority will graduate in May 2012 and and the next big block will graduate in Dec 2012.

They may have secured jobs in earlier months, but we know that 50% of graduates are unsuccessful in securing jobs by graduation or months late for that matter, since they are competing with new graduates.

For example let's pick a University that does extremely well in placing students in jobs (Cornell).
Note most colleges don't achieve the same results.


Cornell University, which conducts a similar survey on the postgraduate plans of the graduating class each year, found that 49 percent of Cornell seniors have accepted jobs in 2012 and 29 percent have been accepted to graduate school, Rebecca Sparrow, executive director of Cornell Career Services, said in an email to The Dartmouth.

http://thedartmouth.com/2012/05/25/news/jobs

Of the 3.4 M possibly 30% will pursue graduate degrees as in Cornell, but that leaves ~ 70% looking for
jobs or 2.38 M. If you were to distribute the 2.38 M over 12 months that would require 166K jobs/month
just to match the College Graduate demand in 2012. We only created 69K private sector jobs in May.
Do you see the problem?

The above doesn't factor in High School graduates competing with College graduates for the same jobs (McDonalds, Wendy's, Costco). So if you add the high school graduates to the unemployed rolls under Obama also, you have a real job depression in the making. It's just math, not opinion here.


In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math!

 

This is exactly what it is...not a bludgeon to hit others over the head with.

 

False and that statement likely came from some anti-biblical group.

The Bible has long been recognized the world over as the word of God.

It is still the all time best seller and breaks all sales records each and every year!

It is considered the best historical document the world has and does agree
with archaeological evidence. There is no equivalent.

The Bible is very clear on homsexuality and gay marriage.
It's against it!

If you can prove otherwise, please do!

In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math!

 

The Koran is called holy, and it's outselling the bible these days.

Also...its a book...with no traceable origins. Why put more stock in it than Harry Potter? It has tales far more fictitious in it than J.K. Rowlings tales.

 

False! The Bible outsells every book in the modern world, including the Koran.


In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math!

 

yep, god ain't the copyright owner, so he can't give them away free

as far as outselling the Koran, not sure, that would be a close one, but just cause your in the top two religion that would be expected

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False, it's not close.

But one important point to note, the Koran is very much against homosexuality and gay marriage also.
Go figure!

By the way, Obama hasn't really done anything to promote gay marriage.
He only stated he supports the idea, big deal right?

 

And I'm sure there are books that are for equal rights.

So???

Books are books, best sellers or not.

Religious texts do not now and never will dictate the laws of the American People.

 

Sure they do and they always have.

God first said in the Bible all men are created equal.

Private property rights and law directly come from the Bible.

The idea that "The Rule of law must be followed rather than men" comes from the bible.

In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math!

 

Lots of common sense in the bible.

Lots of nonsense, too.

That's what you get when you gather stories written by primitive people.