Obama's Gay Marriage Evolution is Offensive to God and America

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  1. sammy

    sammy Well-Known Member

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    Suggesting that that two men or women marrying each other is normal is crazy talk if
    you ask a religious person.

    There are plenty of people in the US that are religious and many that aren't that would
    consider gay marriage bogus.

    God created man and woman for a reason.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    There were plenty of people who believed that slavery was moral. Didn't make it right or moral.

    There were plenty of nazi's. Didn't make the death camps moral or just.

    There are plenty of people in the world who support the taliban, does that make what they do right?

    See how that works? Support of an issues by a majority doesn't make it something that is moral or right.
     
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    The democrats of the South fought for years to preserve slavery, but in vain.
    The democrats in the 1800s didn't claim slavery was moral, but rather a more balanced approach.
    Thousands of Union Republican soldiers lost their lives to end slavery and they were successful
    under president Lincoln.

    Interesting, but not very relevant to what God thinks about Gay marriage.
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    And it wasn't that long ago that the bible was used to justify interracial marriage bans. The general public also didn't support integration at first either.
     
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    Here's the amusing thing about a lot of Christians. They fixate on the Old Testament while simultaneously claiming that the New Testament replaces the Old in terms of God's laws.

    If you guys are so focused on homosexuality being wrong, then how come you eat pork? How come you work on Sundays? How come you don't abide by all of the obscure rules listed in Leviticus?
     
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    Gay marriage and interracial marriage are unrelated.

    You are grasping at straws to try to help yourself feel gay marriage is somehow appropriate.
    No major religion accepts gay marriage as it offends God.

    You know Obama is gonna lose in November, God is offended.
    God gave man a wife as a companion.
     
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    Your grasping at straws using religion to justify your own failures as a human being.
     
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    Use proper grammer and facts in my thread rather than personal insults.

    Your -> you're.

    I didn't write the Bible or make the rules, God did!
    If you can show that God approves of Gay marriage go ahead.
    But as you well know, you can't as God is against it!
     
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    First of all prove a deity exists and then maybe we'll talk.

    Also, for the record, god didn't write the bible. Funny how Christ himself never spoke against homosexual. Not to mention the old testament passages against homosexuality are also followed by verses that (*)(*)(*)(*) farmers who plow the corners of their fields to hell.

    So maybe you should read your bible a bit more closely.

    Course it wouldn't make any difference. You have no real want for honest Christianity. Its just a sham for you to justify your ignorance.
     
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    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    If you are against homosexuality and gay marriage, then don't be one. But to try and impose your beliefs and feelings onto a whole nation is absurd.
     
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    Not when your a religious fundamentalist.

    They truly believe its their god given right to control the freedoms and very lives of others. To bad for them the constitution was crafted to prevent just that.
     
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    The Bible was written by man, but inspired by God.

    The Apostle Paul, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares that homosexuality "shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (I Corinthians 6:9). That is from the New Testament and it's very clear in meaning.

    Now show me a passage from the Bible that suggests gay marriage is appropriate?
     
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    Paul was a man and wrote his message after christ died. Christ didn't correct him as such.

    Now, show me how in anyway, shape, or form the bible has anything to do with U.S. law?

    Don't worry, I'll wait.
     
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    Are you kidding?

    Recall these commandments from the Bible?

    Thous shalt not steal
    Thous shalt not murder

    Christ said the entire category of sin known as sexual immorality was evil.
     
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    Thous shalt not steal
    Thous shalt not murder

    Both are violations of someone elses rights. That is why they are illegal. Not because of the 10 commandments :rolleyes:
     
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    All laws long ago came from the Bible, as people
    respected the Bible years ago. It was the only valid moral guide
    people had and it still is.

    But things go in cycles, as Sodom and Gomorrah were filled
    with immoral people that offended God.

    However even they never proposed something as offensive as gay marriage to my knowledge.

    Today people are ignoring or making a mockery of God and religion.
     
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    1 - what does laws from long ago have to do with today?

    2 - maybe people mock religion and god because people see that the thought that worked 2,000 years ago, no longer works today. WE have perfectly reasonable natural explinations for the universe and life, no god needed.
     
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    Oh my a coincidence.

    Why are 10 commandments being removed from court houses?

    Face it, the entire foundation of this nation was to escape the tyranny of the catholic church of england.

    Perhaps you should read some history that isn't biblical.
     
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    Religion is dying because people have realized that god is the creation of the church in an effort to control them and thus get money from them.
     
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    Lol, maybe your God is Obama.
    Well come November Obama is gonna be replaced.

    In certain Muslim nations its acceptable to murder a gay person if they admit to it.
    President Obama has sent these countries millions of taxpayer dollars, so maybe Obama
    hasn't evolved completely.
     
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    The sad part is that in trying to do the Godly thing, they do the complete opposite. Jesus said to "love thy neighbor as thyself" - never gave them exceptions, but the Pharisees that they are, they have come up with their own rules.
     
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    Dream on. Romney, the one who doesn't know which side of the argument he is on until he finds out which side most benefits him, regardless if he was on the opposite side before, is hardly one for you to be bragging about.

    Maybe you need to move to one of those Muslim nations.
     
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    If Obama has his way we will become one.

    But come November Obama is out, as he offended God as well as religious people in general!

    Religion matters even in politics.
     
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    The Bible is for Christians. America is by far not a Christian nation, considering we have people from all kinds of religions. Why are you trying to enforce Christian principles on a nation where not everyone believes in the Bible? Your being against same-sex marriage isn't going to turn gays around, so what is it to you if they don't inherit the kingdom of God? Did God give you permission to persecute anyone?

    Also, FYI, God hates divorce. Why is it that most of the people that are against same-sex marriage do not say a thing about divorce? Is it because many Christians are divorced? The point being that you do not have to do what you don't believe in. If you don't like homosexuality, don't be one, if you don't like abortion, don't have one.
     
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