Obama's Gay Marriage Evolution is Offensive to God and America

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  1. colourislast

    colourislast New Member

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    To what extent does religion matter in U.S. politics? Whose religion matters? Which religion matters?

    I do believe it is important to have a legal god because that is where our rights stem from, not from men. But no specific god is ever defined.

    Your bible may say it is against your gods wishes for two men to marry, but show me where is says so in your Constitution.
     
  2. mertex

    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    I seriously doubt it since Bush was the one that put this country in its worst possible situation.

    Fanatics have offended Americans. Why should they be given any consideration.

    Religion and politics don't mix. Why the Founding Fathers were smart enough to include "Separation of Church and State" in the Bill of Rights.
     
  3. colourislast

    colourislast New Member

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    Could you please tell us where the Bill of Rights says, "Seperation of Church and State"?
     
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    The phrase has since been repeatedly cited by the Supreme Court of the United States.

    If you have issues with this, go deal with the SCOTUS. GFL with that.
     
  7. sammy

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    That we agree on and divorce happens by choice usually.

    Men make bad choices and gay marriage is a choice, that is offensive to God.

    No if, ands or buts about it.


    When men voted for Obama in 2008 they made a bad choice.

    Unemployment has increased, wages have gone down, home prices have dropped and
    retirement portfolios have decreased. Freedom has decreased and violence has increased.
    Obama has done permanent damage to the economy.
     
  8. mertex

    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    As soon as you show me where in the constitution it says that a marriage is only between a man and a woman.
     
  9. mertex

    mertex New Member Past Donor

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    So why aren't you and the rest of the Reps/cons going after the divorced? Why aren't you fighting to do away with divorce?

    So, you chose to be heterosexual? It is absurd to think that a person would choose to part of a group that is maligned, persecuted, mistreated and disliked.

    You have nothing to base it on.


    A bad choice would have been McCain and his bimbo choice for VP. Bush was the one that put this country in its worst place since the '29 depression and McCain was just another Bush clone.
    If Reps/cons were honest they would hold Bush accountable for the job losses. They were falling faster when Bush left office than after Obama took over, but being so dishonest Reps/cons want to blame Obama for the damage that Bush did. The housing meltdown was during Bush's term, so trying to shift it over on Obama just shows how much in denial most Reps/cons are.
    Are you parroting the garbage that Limbaugh spews? Actually, Republicans are the ones that have passed bills restricting freedoms, on women and minorities. It's no wonder the Republican party is shrinking.

    Ronald Reagan’s “Big Tent” Republican Party is getting smaller every day. One wonders who the national Republican leaders expect to vote for them now and in the future.
    http://www.metropulse.com/news/2011/aug/31/republican-partys-ever-shrinking-tent/

    Obama has actually repaired much of the damage that Bush did to our economy. We don't need a repeat.

    And, for someone who speaks about God so much, I wonder why you are rooting for Romney. He happens to belong to a religion that is considered a cult. His church has altered the Bible, which is an offense that will send you to hell. So, why would you want to vote for a man that is destined to hell?


    Revelation 22:18 - I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.
     
  10. sammy

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    Lol, Obama has purposely produced higher unemployment than any president in history.

    Home prices have tanked, stock prices have tanked and Obama is responsible for this as
    it happened while he was president.

    Obama has consistently passed bad policy that offends God.
    Gay marriage is just the latest.

    Do you recall his policy to force the Catholic church to pay for birth control and abortion pills?

    There is no freedom of religion under Obama anymore, there is no separation of church and state under Obama.
     
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    Neither of the comments in bold ^^ are even remotely true. While I believe that Obama's policies my be offensive to Catholics and some Christians, offensive to God is ridiculous.

    Also, I don't recall any policy that forced the Catholic Church to pay for BC or abortion pills, because it NEVER happened.

    Some folks here need better and more accurate source of news and/or facts
     
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    I haven't seen anything Obamarama did which would irk Allah? He's probably looking forward to getting together with that group of same sex virgins and making a big ole family out of that in heaven? :)
     
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    If Reps/cons didn't have their heads stuck in the sand they would admit that Bush is responsible for the unemployment.

    Ha,ha, you have a short memory. The home bubble started to pop during Bush's last year, and his policies had a lot to do with it.

    Only according to the most radical right wing that have taken the meaning of immorality to a new level.

    That's a lie. He changed it so that the insurance companies will pick up the tab. You need to catch up with the news. Quit watching Faux.

    That is the most outrageous lie. Do Reps/cons consider how stupid they sound when they make statements like that. I still go to the church of my choice, so does everyone I know. Like I said, you may need to come out of the cave where Faux News is keeping you.
     
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    And these laws, and many others were written in the code of Hammurabi WAY before the bible was written. So maybe the bible authors copied them from Hammurabi.
     
  15. sammy

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    Huh?

    All major religions are against gay marriage, as well as science and evolution for that matter.
    But most importantly, God is against gay marriage.

    The theory of evolution suggests homosexuals will die off in the long run, according to Darwinism from 5th grade Elementary School studies. Only the strong that can reproduce, will survive. Liberals agree with Darwinism in explaining the evolution of man, so they should also know that homosexuality and gay marriage make no sense in the long run.
     
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    :lol:

    Most marriages are performed with the participants hardly looking beyond NEXT WEEK!

    Besides, homosexuality has somehow continued to exist from the earliest dawn of history. The idea that "only the strong will survive" (as YOU define "strong") has some holes in it.

    For instance, the ability and desire for "cooperation" very likely has a higher survival quotient than the the attribute of "strong".
     
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    Again you labor under the false assumption that your god means anything in this discussion.

    The law is secular.
     
  18. sammy

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    Agreed, but that is the theory of man's evolution as taught in public school systems in the US as pure science.


    Cooperation was considered a trait that helped man survive but it is only passed on by heterosexuals. Much as the ability to create tools, use language, etc.

    Homosexuality is a abnormality and weakness that Darwinism has always eliminated in the long run. Gay marriage is just offensive to God.
     
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    Again, quite false.

    If it were true then heterosexuals wouldn't give birth to homosexual children.
     
  20. sammy

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    You need to retake 5th grade science in the US public school system.

    Heterosexuals have always given birth to children of various defects (blindness, deafness, etc). Those defects can be passed on, as for example deaf people can procreate naturally. But the homosexual defect is one that can't be passed on naturally for obvious reason.

    The evolution theory is simple really, even 5th graders can grasp it.
     
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    most religious people do not care either way, most support equal rights, thus support same sex marriage being legal
     
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    if homophobes honestly believe it's a defect, then same sex marriage would keep gay people from pretending to be hetero and marring and having kids
     
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    We ignore most of Leviticus. We do not stone our children when they're disrespectful. Money seems to substitute quite well for offerings of grain. We don't stone people for cursing. We wear clothes made of different fibers. We do not stone adulterers. We eat shellfish and pork.

    Those who translated the gospels (and there are several different versions of most of them) had to grasp at the meanings of many of the ancient and very obscure words. It is quite likely that the words used for homosexual and abomination have been mistranslated. Many scholars think so.

    If there is a God, he keeps making gay people and must love them. They cannot offend him. They're born that way; there are no events which change their sexuality. I know that I never made a choice as far as sexuality goes.

    Like the majority of Americans I see no reason whatsoever to deny any of the rights of homosexuals. They should be free to marry the person of their choice. The state should not tell us who to marry nor who not to marry.

    I am also sure that the Obamas' marriage looks good to God.
     
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    God loves all men but he hates their sins according to the bible..

    Gay marriage is certainly offensive to God, according to the Bible and every major religion.
    Muslim countries will execute gay people, without any delay.
    There is no gay marriage in civilized nations.

    Obama has lost the election in November already.
     
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    False, most non-religious people don't believe in gay marriage.

    Religious people are overwhelmingly against it.
    It's not even close, but that's irrelevant.

    It's God that is offended by gay marriage and that's a fact!
     
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