Occupy Wall Street vs. the Tea Party. (What if the Tea Party had done it?)

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Is There A Double Standard?

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  1. Irishman

    Irishman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmmmmm... yet one has directly affected politics, in the form of elections (Tea Party) and all the other has done is well... break the law (OWS).

    Pick your side.
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What's wrong with working on just one issue they agree on together?

    I mean if you are really set on preserving divides, and aren't interested in working on common interests, what can I say...I'm not passing judgement on OWS because I can't tell what they stand for. But I do see that common denominator
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    OWS has been and continues to be very damaging to the Democrats (as if they needed more damage than Barack's done)... while the Tea Party brought new life to the GOP (see results from 2010 Midterm Elections).

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    No comparison, really.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Wooohooo!

    And what have they done to improve the situation in this country.

    Not a (*)(*)(*)(*) thing. They have played nothing but obstructionist politics and sit back blocking anything else that might improve the economy. They are trying their hardest to drive this country into the ground.
     
  5. Irishman

    Irishman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You should, we should never accept breaking the law as an acceptable way of demonstrating.
     
  6. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm beginning to think the Tea Party supporters and OWS opposers like being mad at the other guy. Have you noticed how tightly some of the posters on this threade are hanging on to thier dislike?

    It's like they enjoy that more than the possibility of uniting on something....God forbid we stop hating.
     
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    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Agreed,,,but like you,,,, I see them all over the place and I believe that's how the Tea party sees them. I also believe the Tea party folk do not want to be associated with people others see as trouble makers,,,they are getting a bad rep fast.
    The Tea party are older and ''calmer'' folk.....

    You trying to give them a HEART ATTACK?

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    I do see your point though,,,I doubt she would^^^^^^^
     
  8. Goldwater

    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a sad editorial to justify disunity and fear. Maybe Tea Partiers should just get over their fragile sensabilities!
     
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    :) you know Goldwater it seems to me as though the OWS movement has been maligned ,,, it started off as a protest against Wall Street bailouts and million dollar bonuses for being smart enough to scam the system and laugh all the way to the bank .. that's the original protest.

    I would agree with them , and do ,,, but they need to go on back to their dorm rooms and wherever ,,, the message has been sent ...

    When they leave garbage & crap , it makes them look bad , and does not promote their cause ...
     
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    Hogwash. Tea Partiers know how to get things done constitutionally. No matter how good their intentions, OWS is like a dog, chasing it's own tail. And us taxpayers are getting stuck with cleaning up their crap in the park.

    The Tea Party movement came first... where were all these young Einsteins then? Happy with their govt???
     
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    And maybe the OCW's should not crap where they eat! :mrgreen:
     
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    Well,,,at least you have to give them some credit for opening their eyes, these people wont vote for Obama again......I think :sad:

    The book on Obama and the young vote is that he has been losing them, I doubt they will vote for anybody ,,,,,but......Do we care? :)
     
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    I don't think there is a double standard, but I watch very little msn, cnn or fox. Maybe if I watched more I would see it different? I like both groups and always support a good protest! OWS seems much larger than the TP, also OWS folks do not go home, lol. Being much larger OWS engulfs a larger, diverse, and a wider ideological group of people. From this you get all the chaos.
    The TP became focused, and organized but there ideology is less attractive to a larger population. People are not happy with Democrats, Republicans, or the TP. People might be finding OWS appealing because it is the new flavor of the day. Nobody knows were OWS is going to lead.
     
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    And do I not have reason to be angry? What is the cost to NYC now, 7 million? I have friends down there working that have to put up with that (*)(*)(*)(*). Figuratively and literally. They have also caused NYC to cancel the next large NYPD class that was supposed to go in that I might have been in, after already waiting for 2+ years they have extended it at least another 6 months, so yes, I am angry!

    These people just abused the rights that are afforded to us. They thought this was some sort of giant hippie party, let's all get high and sleep together. I have been there, I have seen it, I have heard the stories the MSM won't tell.

    Tell you what, I will stop hating when they decide to respect other people's rights.

    P.S. I have never been to a Tea Party rally either.
     
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    :sun: old buddy , with all respect to you and smarty ,,, the OWS movement will vote for Obama , and you can count on it ...

    these college kids have rubbed elbows and shared meals with 'the folks under the bridge' that have lost their homes & jobs , and will vote 4 more 4 Obama .

    Mainly because they have no confidence in the Republican Party to do anything other that take the money and run to the bank.. and the GOP has already came out against Entitlements for Veterans & SS recipients that's paid taxes all their lives ... no way I'll ever vote for that ...

    Not a very inspiring theme , is it ?
     
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    :sun: well , even Hillbillys know enough to wash their hands after a trip to the bathroom , ya know ??

    ain't nobody ever heard of a 5-gal bucket and 3 trash bags ? WTF ? :twisted:
     
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    Hang on tight to that suspicion and hate, after all, it's so healthy and good for America
     
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    Maybe everybody should stop trying to justify being outraged over what the other guy does, and try to focus on where we agree. :sun:
     
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    Hatred is a strong emotion. I don't hate Tea Partiers or OWS folks. I do however, strongly dissaprove of the Tea Partiers that are just plain Republicans in sheep's clothing, and I strongly dislike OWS homeless/addicts who get violent, crap everywhere, and impede people's commute.

    But what I see that is destructive...is how MSNBC paints all Tea Partiers as racist heartless Republicans, and how Fox paints all OWS people as unemployed violent communists.

    Do you think that hate does you good?, or anybody any good?...I respect your right to have an opinion, and am not trying to belittle it....but Fox and MSNBC's product is the kind of outrage and intolerance I see on this thread.

    So the OWS people camp out and are diverse....So most of the Tea Party is white people who vote Republican. It doesn't mean both whole groups are completely made of the kind of arse hats MSNBC and Fox show on TV, which seems to make so many people hate people they don't even know
     
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    I can't take OWS seriously. So I'm not angry with the fools.

    I think the Tea Party is mad at themselves, by being complacent, for letting our government go so far wrong. It is up to us to set a few things straight by getting involved with changing things. For instance, I'm in a swing county in the swing state of Ohio. There will be over 150 new precinct captains elected next spring who have Tea Party values. We are taking over the Rhinos who actually wanted to endorse for a judge's position someone who admittedly voted for Obama. We aim to make a difference. More Tea Party enthusiasts are in position to change things and many more are on the way.
     
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    Sure we care. It matters if people want to adhere to the constitution or to subscribe to socialism. You know how the Democrats long for the days of Kennedy? Good Lord, if our Rhinos were as conservative as Kennedy we'd be way better off. He did battle with Castro, Russia. He stood against communism, drew the line. Now Democrats bow at the feet of a socialist president.

    Glad to see more of your posts again.
     
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    Yes, there is a double standard coming from the liberal Media. The Tea Party folks and the OWS folks are nothing alike. The Tea Party is against over-reaching/over-bearing , bloated, wasteful government. The OWS folks want the government to take more from corporate America and give it to them.
     
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    I think there is a double standard. However I think it is more societal than media based.

    We all have "double standards" based on things like age, status, and what someone claims they stand for and believe in.

    The Tea party is mostly older, successful, and had a message of personal responsability and decency. So that's what they're held to.

    Occupy is mostly young, unemployed, with a message of government needing to control people's bad behavior and an attempt to capture some of the 60s protest flavor.

    So people expect them to poop in the street, throw stuff at cops, and shoot up with their six year olds. It really wouldn't make for a very newsworthy story to most Americans.

    While the movement is disjointed and you've got some anarchists running about, you do know that most of what they're asking for is more government right?
     
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    Your ambition is admirable. Americans have been just letting things happen to them for too long.

    I wonder though......how much momentum the Tea Party has. If you look at the polls...Tea Party approval, and membership, is in a moderate decline. I hope you get those "many more" people who will make a difference.

    Because...all I think will happen.....is Republicans will get elected in 2012, maybe take the senate and the presidency...then all of the sudden it'll be like the Bush admin again. Spending cuts in social security, medicare, defense, welfare, and unemployment insurance will NOT be made.....and Fox and Rush will defend it all somehow, and all the Tea Partiers will believe what they say...like they do unconditionally now.
     
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    Like they do unconditionally now? I don't think so.

    Sure, there are some who have fallen away from the TEA Party. I don't sweat it. The ones who remain are more likely to do something instead of simply complaining about things. We are individualists. The time for talking about change has passed. The time to actually change something is now. To expand on my example of before there are some 350 precinct positions with 150 or so already filled with more than a few RHINOs. We will be adding 150 more people to the ballot in the Spring, maybe even 200. They are hand picked conservatives, leaning TEA Party. We will have a clear voice.
     

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