Oklahoma pharmacist convicted in murder of teen robber is sentenced to life

Now your just being ridiculous.

 

Can you explain this to me in detail? What's your point?

 

Exactly. And add in the 3 strike factor, meaning, if a criminal has 2 strikes against her, then she does NOT want to leave a witness. (in applicable 3 strike states)

 

as opposed to he just turned out to be some guy who found out he enjoyed killing?

he probably would have went home and offed his wife and kids.

 

Did he have a history of murder? No.

This is an honest individual that owned a business and followed the law all his life. Then two guys came into his store to rob him at gunpoint. In an adrenaline rage, he grabbed for his gun, shot one of the robbers, went to the back to get his other gun, and shot the guy again. This is a man you want to convict of murder? What are the chance he kills again? What are the chances someone robs his store at gunpoint again? The event probably lasted 3-5 minutes of his life and will never be repeated.

 

The pharmacist left the store after he shot to kid to chase after the guy with the gun. He then returned got a new gun and shot the kid five more times. Why did he go back into the store? Why didn't he call 911 before hand. There is no mistake about it, he went back to finish the kid off. That is a crime.

 

No. Obviously you should draw the line somewhere. But where Ok drew it was not appropriate.

It really doesn't matter to me if a guy involved in an armed robber is killed while engaging in the robber. The vast majority of people live fairly comfortable lives without robbing anyone at gun point. It just doesn't make any sense to waste the police man power, court time/cost, and prison costs on something like this.

Jerome Ersland is a pharmacist and veteran. Which makes him more of a contributor to society than 95% of the people on this board.

Personally if I was in the situation I would have made very sure the guy on the floor was dead too. Until the police arrive you have no idea how many more bad guys are going to show up. You might as well improve the odds for your team.

 

What's your point? He was the victim of a crime. He shot the guy that was robbing him after chasing down the other criminal. Its absurd to convict this man of murder when there was such an extreme circumstance. The justice system is not helping me or society when it does things like this.

 

would you have also chased downt he other perps and returned to shoot the guy ont he ground a few more times?

sorry, not reasonable....

if he shot the guy, then kept shooting maybe....but I dont believe thats how it went down.

 

uhm...why would you go back into the place with an armed robber if you were fearful of your safety?

 

I never described the situation as fearful so your entire post is moot.

 

well thats the only way this would be remotely justified legally

 

The man went back into his store and "finished him off". He got what he deserved.

 

That is what I said. "it has nothing to do with the value of what the punk was there to steal; it has to do with preserving the value of our society."

You seem to value the criminal lifestyle more than the lives of honest productive citizens. The kid went in there with a gun. Had the kid lived he would have likely been more violent when he got out of prison.

Human life isn't worth much if you can't be secure in your life and your property. In Texas I can chase a person and shoot them if they have my property. What is life worth if your life's work can be stolen as you have to stand and watch??

I know that the liberal horde says that kid "only" wanted some free smokes but let him have free smokes and the next thing he wants is to rape your wife and daughter. Hell, you let him walk out with free smokes and he might kick your dog on the way out. That would get him shot by most liberals. Think about that. I bet the kid would have gone on to kick dogs and run over cats. Is that what you think is a good society? A bunch of animal abusers???

 

Karma is a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), lets just hope the police, DA and jury that convicted this hero meet their just fate down the road.

 

the laws in texas would not allow this to happen either he executed the unarmed kid upon his return.

if he had chased the armed kid out and shot him then this would be justified.

 

of course not, ive said I dont ahve a problem with shooting armed burglars in self defense.

the only criminal being defended....is the convicted murderer youre holding up as a hero.

it doesnt take a hero to shoot a defenseless man lying on the floor.

 

I saw a show about a jeweler in a bad neighborhood that has killed three kids in three robbery attempts.

His point was, look when the kid comes in and points a gun at you, you have a decision..... there are only two choices:

1) Put you life into the hands of a punk with a gun that you don't know and may kill you.

2) Control the situation and defend your life by shooting him first.

I agree 100%. As an American, you do not need to leave your life in the hands of a armed robber and "hope" that the kid does not decide to shoot you. You already know the kid is an armed criminal because he is robbing you, this is who you want to "trust" not to kill you?

So I have absolutely no problem with this guy shooting the kid. That is his right. His crime began when the armed kid left the store, he has a kid lying on the ground of his store without any gun and posing no threat. Then unloading 5 shots into the kid is no longer self defense and is now murder.

This shop owner deserves serious jail time. I think life with an opportunity for parole is fine by me.

 

I dont get the confusion...

Im a bleeding heart liberal and im fine with shooting armed robbers....but you cant go back in and unload in the guy after hes on the ground and not moving...

 

Typical, now the right wing is comparing who can make up the better lie.

What is worse, is that you guys then think you have a point.

So the fact is that since the "liberals" are NOT saying anything like what you guys suggest, you think making something up, claiming it is what others think, and then arguing against it is actually winning an arguement.

 

LOL.

HOW MANY PEOPLE WITH A HISTORY OF MURDER ON THEIR RECORDS ARE OUT THERE?

and you're right it will never be repeated

 

Well that’s the way of it. I believe in self-defense, but shooting an incapacitated robber is murder. This man is getting what he deserves.

 

Well there is a reasonable chance he will have to kill or be killed in prison.

 

The kid committed suicide, IMO. I would have given the pharmacist probation. I believe he deserves no jail time because he did not set out to commit a crime.

 

True. In Georgia, the Governor would've declared a state holiday in honor of the (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag.