Oliver Stone’s film on Ukraine’s Maidan coup to be aired in Russia

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Better a Chechnya united with Russia, than a Chechnya not united with Russia and being prone to the New World Order manipulations of Soros. Kadyrov watches over the Caucasus and it frees Russia from that burden. The Central Asia States are enough of a worry.
     
  2. Fallen

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    You sound brainwashed.

    Anything that opposes our media, which has been proven "honest" by wikileaks, and our "honest" government which has an extensive hystory of honesty and transparency, MUST be propaganda. Righ?
     
  3. Fallen

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    Anyone who want to know about the coup should watch this documentary
    [video=youtube;QoDIKXYh7Js]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDIKXYh7Js[/video]
     
  4. D0nRumataEst0rsky

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    I don't know if you have enough education to understand the following - Chechens are the autochthonous people. They have no kindred peoples. There are dozens of autochthonous peoples in the Caucasus.
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How right you are:
    :roflol:

    [video=youtube;7PHS2DAr0rc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PHS2DAr0rc[/video]
     
  6. Thehumankind

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    That's the main purpose of the UN to prioritize rights and what should be right, Russia could not intervene for under Russia the proceedings will be seen as biased. No it's not correct an intervention of a non partisan but credible body should settle the issue and even defend the final and irrevocable verdict afterwards should be the correct one.
     
  7. Ohoho

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    Do you agree that in emergency case the common procedures may be ommited? There was an emergecy state in Crimea that time! Only prompt and professional actions could prevent the war! It was supposed to be the war even worse than in Donbass because of the tatar factor. No one was killed! I think it was worth it.
     
  8. Thehumankind

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    No, in such a situation an international arbitration is only fitting to mediate and bring forth unbiased solution. Is Crimea now under Russia accepted by Ukraine, the rightful/legal owner of Crimea as per Khrushchev declaration? is the issue already settled and agreed upon by all parties involved, or not yet and still conflict is eminent.
     
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    I give up. Perhaps, observing from prosperous Switzerland indeed bureaucratic procedures more important than the lives of thousands of people as well as their right to self-determination.
    But I and my folks live here and we have quite different priorities.
     
  10. zoom_copter66

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    Lol..and I am assuming you understand perfectly how the Chechens feel..why are you a Chechen yourself..you've been there..no probably not...and speaking of gratitude..right something kyiv hasn't? And the Russians do???? Bull****, if it wasn't for us, yes the USA, everything west of the effing Urals would be the Lebensraum today perhaps...you know what that is ...look it up it's in German, you claim to be some scholar here...right just like you quoted that all of Russ fed 6 mln plus sq mi is excellent growing conditions, considering almost a quarter is permafrost..lol. so yeah I don't understand and yet I answered.
     
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    If no kindred people's..why did Iranians make the claim then?
     
  12. Ohoho

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    Are you OK?
     
  13. RUS

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    Mr. Prosecutor, could you please answer the question:

    What should have been doing Crimean's people, after in Kiev there was a coup by force and these rebels seized a power in Ukraine ?.....if .....

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    ....if Crimean's people didn't support these rebels and didn't want to live under these rebels rule.
     
  14. Ethereal

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    What happened in Ukraine is just another CIA "regime change" operation masquerading as a popular uprising.

    USAID and NED are nothing but CIA instrumentalities with a smiley face.

    But you won't hear any of this from the corporate media because they are the oligarchy's propaganda wing.

    Welcome to 1984, folks.
     
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    It was "the people" who put Yanukovych in office via democratic elections. His ouster was an illegal coup instigated by the CIA and right-wing Ukrainian militants, many of whom are avowed neo-Nazis.

    That is the scum who you are supporting.
     
  16. zoom_copter66

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    I'm fine...do you see me yelling?
     
  17. Mandelus

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    But show me any serious TV channel who will show it in the USA...

    In content I have much to agree, but also to disagree with it. However ... in core I agree as I did all the time before still agree that the "West" behavior against Russia was simply to say too often impudent. They thought with end of USSR they can enlarge their sphere into the foreyard of Russia step for step, because they rated Russia as too weak and so they can encircle them to get (maybe) more influence into Russia itself.
    Problem is that with Putin raised someone the power who is strong enough to forbid this and who recreated Russia to be strong enough in reality. Also the West likes to forget that Putin still sent out several warnings about the Western behavior to the West to stop it, which were in the western arrogance ignored. Bad mistake!

    I'm for sure no fan of Vladimir Putin and I have much critics against him too ... but honestly: You in the USA and in the EU shall a moment think about if anyone else is dancing in your political foreyard the same way as we do in Russian foreyard!
    What will you think if ... for example Russia makes right after Trumps election which annoys Mexico a full partnership and with it Mexico allows Russia to have a naval base in gulf of Mexico or an Air Base?

    Before you answer as I expect, think about that right your countries are doing the same in the foreyard of Russia and expect that Russia has only to accept!
     
  18. Thehumankind

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    Ukrainian's asserted their sovereignty by removing pro Russian/cheater-intimidator Victor Yanukovych.
    I think he is now somewhere in Southern Russia, I think the other Russians remaining in Crimea should follow him.
    Their dominance of a place not their owned is not sanctioned internationally and is illegal.
     
  19. Ohoho

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    In fact Ukrainians lost their sovereignty. They never had much of it but they lost it completely after the maidan. I think that they are going to be like a blind puppies after Obama administration time is over.
     
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    As per Russian view,
    but quite different internationally.
     
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    The delusion doesn't stop being a delusion from the fact that the majority shares it. © L. Tolstoy
     
  22. Thehumankind

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    He is a Russian writer.

    BUT this one is not.

    We will fight and defend my good name in the European court. We have to be strong and defend Ukraine from this authoritarianism.
    Yulia Tymoshenko
     
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    Julia is the last person I'd quote. She is one of these failed politicians that pretend to rule Ukraine. I do hope their time will soon be over.
     
  24. Thehumankind

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    That probably is a good Russian/Putin Rhetoric,
    putting an end to that Sovereign state called Ukraine.
     
  25. Ohoho

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    Why are you accusing me of using Putin's rhetoric? I am here on my own. I speak what I think. I wish you the same.
     

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