On terrorism, why you should never listen to the liberals

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  1. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Labor/consumers have no real position at the trade table.

    There was a time where the nation's wealthy's fortunes were tide directly to the success of the nation. This would be the booming 1st 150 years, with how our government is structured. But now wealth working with state has become just as corrupt as church and state, and will need the same level of constitutional protections as separation of church and state. Especially now that the wealthy elite see no reasons for nations, and have their money tide, via pseudo representation, all across the planet.

    If we can't separate wealth and state via revolution, or finding new land and killing the natives, then we're going to have to work with what we have. Use the rising nationalism, stemming from the utter betrayal of those with the keys to the castle, to get left and right nationalists into every inch of public office.

    It doesn't matter which way they lean, so long as they come from the common denominator of our nation 1st.

    Do you realize how easy fixing this country will be , when all you have to do is go back and do the opposite economically of everyone in charge for 50 years?

    My God, man. They left bread crumbs all over the place. A moron with power could right the ship.

    All that is required is for said moron to care. Globalists don't.
     
  2. Merwen

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    Right now that may hold true. With the massive amounts of people our elites are planning to import, and considering the culture they will be bringing with them, I'd say in aboiut five years you will be very, very sorry for having posted that instead of helping to stem the tide of people with such different standards. They bring a culture of vengeance and nonforgiveness.
     
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    Well, that is of course assuming that our descendents will have the guts to resist Islamic domination, accept Sharia law, become dhimmis and pay special taxes, not be allowed to serve in their own military and become sex slaves or have their heads cut off at the whim of the most uneducated and mentally disturbed among the eventually dominant Muslim population. One way Muslims like to dominate is to create new Muslims through rape. Enjoy.
     
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    Mussolini as an example wanted to create a more centralized economy, NS Germany went along the same path.(Sticking strictly to an economic discussion). Personally, I think Mussolini did a little too much(far more departments were created, which led to a bogdown in Italy), whereas NS Germany was more privatized.

    Honestly, if Hitler weren't bat(*)(*)(*)(*) insane, history would be different. I will recognize history for you, but I'll also say: I'm not hellbent on war. I think a country should take active steps to defend itself, but as long as open dialogue exists, war ideally shouldn't happen. My view on war is similar to Wilson's, who didn't want to get in over Mexico and took every last possible measure to avoid war.

    Some might call that weakness, I call it strength to avoid a huge body count and thus to weaken our own forces lol.

    But in summary: An economy for the State, is better than an economy for Indivduals. And ideally, the said State Economy will actually be easier, not harder to thrive in.

    If we fix our macroeconomics(trade), and if we promote a more centralized, yet privatized economy. Moody's said Clinton would make 10 million jobs. I'll wager I'd make more than triple the amount.
     
  5. FixingLosers

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    That female agent working for CIA caught UBL, those SEAL Team 6 Demo Team executed the Paki-raid neutralized UBL. It literally had nothing to do with Obama.

    Dang it son, I really wished he had something to do with it so his 8 years of a train-wreck won't look so pathetic. But it has none.
     
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    Most liberals tend to live a very happy-go-lucky kind of life, and they are relatively cut off from reality. Good luck trying to make them understand what the real world is like.
     
  7. FixingLosers

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    LOL, let's see you make the same claim if you have been to the nut house once for 2 years.
     
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    What security measures against Muslims are you referring to?
     
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    That Female CIA agent and Seal Team Six would never have gotten any kind of recognition if it hadn't been for President Barack Obama to give the order to carry out the mission to kill Osama Bin Laden. The Buck stopped with Obama, had it failed and the Seal team been captured, you Republicans would have wanted the President head on a stick, just like they did when Jimmy Carter had that failed Operation Eagle Claw mission in Iran.
     
  10. Til the Last Drop

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    The 2 options Americans have are the guy with the good rhetoric, or the proven globalist.

    Really, the worst thing about Trump is the wall and the anti-extremest Muslim rhetoric.

    As to the wall: The great majority of nations have tougher border rules than us and aren't in a situation like we are next to Mexico, unless it is refugees fleeing a war.I just can't see one way in which the wall would hurt more than it would help, except for the illegals themselves, and quite frankly, good. The people with the ambition to want more need to fix Mexico, not flee it, because it is easier just to move.

    And as to radical Muslim? Good luck playing that race card.

    And my other choice is not only a globalist, but one of the WORST globalists?
    Her husband brings borrowing from social security, NAFTA and China Trade, Glass-Steagall removal and Freddie/Fannie (the 2 causes of the great recession, etc. etc.

    Hillary brings us Citizens United when she gets mad over a movie made, wins, but then the supreme court over rules, stripping previous protections and directly leading to the corporate person hood problems we're currently facing.

    She authors TPP, stripping whats left of middle class production to prop up yet another foreign entity - Vietnam, what one day will be known as "economic treason". And not only that, implements for the 1st time ever - corporate nation hood.

    Globalists are literally stripping individual sovereignty as "progress", while acknowledging its pros in giving it to corporations, and stripping us of national sovereignty as "progress", while acknowledging its pros by giving it to corporations.

    And I have to argue why people should pick nationalist over globalists, after 50 years of this madness as proof?

    Anybody who has had hand in treasonous legislation - public or private - should be in a helicopter with SEAL Team 6 over water.

    Not running for office.
     
  11. FixingLosers

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    AFAIK it's mostly surveillance and snitching.
     
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    Oh god not again.

    It had nothign to do with OBama. JEsus, do we give Obama credits for rainbows now these days?

    Jimmy Carter handled poorly Iran just like JFK to the Bay of Pigs and LBJ to Vietnam.
     
  13. TCassa89

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    Do you have a better description, or a link explaining the security measures they have taken against Muslims?
     
  14. AmericanNationalist

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    We can simplify and state plainly: There is a reason tribes were made, nations were formed and laws were codified. Ironically, to protect each other from each other. At our best, we can be separate but coherent. Bunched up in groups, the slightest differences can set off a keg powder that leads to thievery, murder, war, etc.

    The corporate element is certainly a new add-on to the globalist regime. It's their way of taking away from Nationalists, whom promoted National Unity as incredibly good for business. And I'd argue it still is: Whereas Nations can protect their economies, the globalist economic system is frail and weak because of its so-called "unity". The collapse of one nation in the EURO, led to several and accumulated into Brexit.

    Should we continue on the path of Globalism, the counter-reaction is shaping up to be something of a Nationalist-Marxist merger against Globalism. That is to say, those who are Nationalistic are the new "worker-class", while the 1% are all globalists. Basically, on a world wide scale, Karl Marx may finally have his class war, though not in the way he envisioned.
     
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    How will you halt Muslim immigration? Couldn't someone just say they are a different religion?

    How will you deport a US citizen? Where will you deport them to?

    They already offer significant rewards for wanted terrorists. Should "behaving strange lately and viewing extremist contents" be a crime?

    Again, what would prevent someone from simply saying they are not Muslim? Atheists are forced to do this all the time. It almost sounds like you are advocating for it to be a crime to be Muslim. Is that the case?

    This would be as successful as the efforts to make sure it is incredibly difficult for a criminal to obtain a firearm. Why would you think that your suggestion would be any more successful? How would that work exactly?

    FWIW, I am not a progressive/regressive. I believe that radical Islam is a huge problem and we better figure out some solutions. I believe that Islam, in general, is in dire need of a reformation. A shocking number of adherents believe in alarming things (like death for apostates, death for homosexuals, etc). These beliefs are frankly, anti-western society. That said, given your suggestions, I suspect you may have difficulties if the "regular mental health checks" are instituted.
     
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    Probably because the terrorists are (*)(*)(*)(*) scared of the Chinese penal system? A terrorist there would probably 'disappear' and never be heard of again and they're frightened of that, because they want to live to terrorise another day.
     
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    They need to know what fear is, but at the moment they have nothing to fear, so what's to lose? [​IMG]
     
  18. FixingLosers

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    Then we will be getting a moderate. We will far less likely to have problems with Muslims who dare to say they are Christians.

    Legal procedures. Outside of US. Don't care. Don't need to.

    Evidence. Read carefully.

    Short answer? No. But no immigration for you if you were a Muslim. That simple. Also, there is no strings attached when an atheist had to lie about his religious beliefs (or the lack thereof), but Muslims lie.... its kinda big deal.

    Fill out a form and write down "I'm not a muslim". If you do, you will be subjected to almost draconian background checks.
     
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    How exactly will less than 3% of the population dominate the other 97%?
     
  20. Merwen

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    The following has been posted in here multiple times; it's difficult to see how you could have missed it, but here goes again:

    Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

    Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.


    ]Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

    When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.


    Here’s how it works.

    As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

    United States — Muslim 0.6%
    Australia — Muslim 1.5%
    Canada — Muslim 1.9%
    China — Muslim 1.8%
    Italy — Muslim 1.5%
    Norway — Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:


    Denmark — Muslim 2%
    Germany — Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
    Spain — Muslim 4%
    Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

    France — Muslim 8%
    Philippines — Muslim 5%
    Sweden — Muslim 5%
    Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:

    Guyana — Muslim 10%
    India — Muslim 13.4%
    Israel — Muslim 16%
    Kenya — Muslim 10%
    Russia — Muslim 15%

    After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:


    Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

    At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:


    Bosnia — Muslim 40%
    Chad — Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

    From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

    Albania — Muslim 70%
    Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan — Muslim 70%

    After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:


    Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
    Egypt — Muslim 90%
    Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
    Iran — Muslim 98%
    Iraq — Muslim 97%
    Jordan — Muslim 92%
    Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan — Muslim 97%
    Palestine — Muslim 99%
    Syria — Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
    Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrases are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

    Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
    Somalia — Muslim 100%
    Yemen — Muslim 100%

    Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

    ‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

    It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrases. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

    Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.


    Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

    This is scary. Here is some serious reading for serious thinkers.
    Now that you know, what we will do with this knowledge?

    - See more at: http://www.commonsenseevaluation.co...ed-with-population-size/#sthash.VvqPa1gt.dpuf

    See also:

    https://carm.org/islamic-muslim-statistics-on-violence-rape-terror-sharia-isis-welfare
     
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    Christina Engela writes from South Africa

    The fundamentalist assault on equality, tolerance and Constitutional protection of human rights in South Africa comes mainly from evangelical churches based in this country, but which often have close ties to local and foreign church groups or societies which share a common intolerant fundamentalist view on matters such as abortion, gay rights and theocracy.

    Prime examples of such hate groups in South Africa are Christian Action Network, which is based in Cape Town and whose figurehead, "Dr" Peter Hammond, is involved with radical US religious right groups such as the ICCP (International Church Council Project), which consists of a main committee, and smaller committees which include foreign leaders of churches from around the world. The ICCP is tied into the US Religious Right through its leaders.

    The International Church Council Project (ICCP) An American body replete with names like Dr. Jay Grimstead, D.Min., Found. Dir. Coalition on Revival, Dr. R.J. Rushdoony, Ph.D., President, Council of Chalcedon on its board (now deceased and replaced by his son) - along with Peter Hammond of CAN in little old South Africa. These people are leading figures in what is known as the "Great Commission Church Movement" This shows me that the US Religious Right has been pulling the puppet strings right here in South Africa for at least 20 years now.

    Closer examination of this group's website shows that it has "targeted" 80 countries around the world to "transform" into evangelical Christian theonomies. Noting that Uganda is on its list and the state of the country - and those around it which are also on the list, I think they are achieving their goals.

    The scary part for me is that South Africa is on their list too.
     
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    None of what you posted addresses my question.
     
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    The differential birth rate and our elite's plan to import millions more over the next decade does, and if you bothered to follow the additional link I placed in that for you you would have found that out for yourself.
     
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    So that is that what happened to you huh?
     
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    Muslim growth rate in America is still massively below the growth rate for Hispanics. They will not be able to become anything more than a tiny minority for decades to come.
     

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