Oswald was the lone assassin...CASE CLOSED

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    She did not see him shoot Kennedy.

    In fact she saw no one shoot a gun.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    She did claim she saw a shooter on the grassy knoll.....after she said she saw no shooter in an interview right after the assassination.....
     
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    She actually claimed to have heard shots from the knoll.

    She has also changed her story many times over depending on which conspiracy theorist she speaks to.
     
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    I was curious if anyone cared to prove the patsy was somehow shooting, or maybe just drinking a coke in the lunchroom?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    there was no 'patsy'.
     
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    She said many times she saw the ss service shooting back. In fact, she was the one who brought it up first. She didn't understand why they were shooting at all, so she could came up with the most innocent excuse. Greer shot jfk intentionally, not because he was shooting back at the assassins, so to speak.

    http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/hill_j.htm

    Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
    Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

    Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?
    Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

    Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
    Mrs. HILL - That's right.

    FRAME 310 OF ZAPRUDER. Jean Hill was looking directly at the limo just before Greer shot the President, while he brought the car to a near stop.

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    She never said he shot JFK intentionally.


    She did not even say they shot or shot back.

    She indicated confusion and uncertianty and that she THOUGHT theymay have shot back. She even likened it to a movie.

    You have to invent things she never said to claim she saw Greer shoot.

    Still no evidence from you.
     
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    I don't have to invent anything. She said the ss were shooting back. That's in her testimony and everyone has read it.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Shooting back at WHAT?....the secret service is not in the habit of shooting at a nonverified target
     
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    Oswald was a patsy and most americans know and accept that. He called himself a patsy on live tv.:roflol:

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    Yes you do becausr you state that shooting back means Greer and it does not.

    You dream up the rest out of thin air because you have failed for years to produce a shred of evidence

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    Most Americans do not know and accept that. You start with a lie and move to the obvious because you have no evidence.

    Yes he called himself a patsy which is MEANINGLESS. Every person arrested or incarcerated claims to be framed, or innocent, or set up, of a patsy.

    Prisons and jails are crammed full of such people.
    Try some evidence for once
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    So now you're taking the word of a killer? disinformation.
     
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    There was a hole in the windshield that was captured by James Altgens at frame 255. The wagon wheel crack that was photographed later is fake and has nothing to do with the real hole photographed only 1.5 seconds after the bullet came through the windshield. There will always be a hole in the windshield. The darkness in the middle indicates the hole surrounded by froth.

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    Yes any clear visible photograph proving you wrongh is a fake.

    Any fuzzy ambiguous image which could be anything is only what you claim it is.

    This is why you have never posted any evidence. You have none except what you imagine is real and the rest you declare fake without a shred of evidence.

    Still avoiding fact Jean Hill never said she saw anyone shoot a weapon. She clearly said that she THOUGHT the SS was shooting back.
     
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    No,He did NOT,in fact it's a ludicrous claim.
     
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    Yes any clear visible photograph proving you wrong is real because in this circumstance it was photographed right after jfk was shot in the throat.

    The spider crack fake image could not be the frothy defect that Altgens captured, therefore you're stuck with a fake image.

    This is why you have never posted any evidence. You have none except fake evidence which has no chain of custody or is at odds with better and earlier evidence, as is the case here.

    You will always avoid the fact that Jean Hill said the ss were shooting back. She clearly said that she THOUGHT the SS was shooting back because Greer fired the fatal shot.:bored:
     
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    JFK Assassination Forum Kennedy Assassination JFK Assassination Forum JFK Dealey Plaza Dallas November 22nd 1963 Assassination of JFK
    http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/conn_j.htm

    Connally was shot in the back immediately after jfk was shot from the front. That proves two shooters hit their target in less than one second. How many gunshot victims are asked to determine when they were shot by watching a video of when they were shot? The Governor knew when he was shot, and there is no person or group that can make a logical argument to the contrary. Jfk reacted to being shot no later than 225.

    Source: Warren Commission Testimony of Governor John Bowden Connally, Jr. on April 21, 1964 - 4H, 145
    Mr. SPECTER. I have just one other question, Governor. With respect to the films and the slides which you have viewed this morning, had you ever seen those pictures before this morning?
    Governor CONNALLY. I had seen what purported to be a copy of the film when I was in the hospital in Dallas. I had not seen the slides.
    Mr. SPECTER. And when do you think you were hit on those slides, Governor, or in what range of slides?
    Governor CONNALLY. We took - you are talking about the number of the slides?
    Mr. SPECTER. Yes.
    Governor CONNALLY. As we looked at them this morning, and as you related the numbers to me, it appeared to me that I was hit in the range between 130 or 131, I don’t remember precisely, up to 134, in that bracket.
    Mr. SPECTER. May I suggest to you that it was 231?
    Governor CONNALLY. Well, 231 and 234, then.
    Mr. SPECTER. The series under our numbering system starts with a higher number when the car comes around the turn, so when you come out of the sign, which was -
    Governor CONNALLY. It was just after we came out of the sign, for whatever that sequence of numbers was, and if it was 200, I correct my testimony. It was 231 to about 234. It was within that range.
     
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    The image you call frothy is not even an image.

    The one you call fake is not fake.

    Jean Hill saw no one shooting.
     
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    How would you prove that Altgens didn't take a picture of the bullet hole when he actually took two?:bored:
     
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    It seems to be well-established that:
    1. Oswald was a communist who had been to both Russia and Cuba.
    2. The US aided an invasion of Cuba to overthrow Castro, and Kennedy also tried to have him killed by the CIA.

    I'll buy Oswald as the lone gunman, but this doesn't explain why a lot of the Kennedy murder findings are still secret, or the fact that the US citizens can now trade with communist Vietnam and other communist countries, but not with Cuba.
    What could explain this?

    Could the CIA have thought that they had Oswald in their pocket as a double agent? Would it be just too embarrassing to the powers-that-be to admit that while the US was trying to kill Castro that one of their own employees got to Kennedy first on behalf of Castro, and will Americans be prevented from travelling to Cuba until Fidel Castro is dead?
     
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    The image you called frothy is not a picture.

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    Oswald had never been to Cuba.

    Russia yes but not to Cuba.
     
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    Mocking someone merelyh proves you are wrong and conceeding the argument.

    You are also engaging in circular logic. You do not prove a fake by insisting you are right and everyone else wrong.

    You have failed to get evidence over and over again,

    I have never ignored what Jean Hill said it is you lying about what she said and your own quotes from her prove this.
     
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    Sorry, apparently you are right, but there's still the Russian connection, and apparently he can also be placed at the Cuban embassy in Mexico City.
    w.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/biographies/oswald/oswald-the-cia-and-mexico-city/
     
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    You cannot prove the crack is the same as Altgens 6 or 7 because it's not. The bullet hole was captured by Altgens 1.5 seconds after it happened, that's a photographic fact. The small crack is not the same size or shape and is too far right of the mirror. https://www.google.com/search?q=alt...fOdGzsAT60oCgBA&ved=0CCgQsAQ&biw=1536&bih=748

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    wow,sounds like you have only been reading the textbooks from our corrupt government funded schools.lol
    because 1. Oswald worked for the CIA and navy intelligence,there have been CIA officers that have come forward and said oswald was an agent for them.He was a radar operater for atsugi air force base home of the CIA'S U2 SPY Planes.
    2.true,kennedy itially went along with the agenda of the establishment to kill castro but later cased those operations developing a conscience.

    oswald lone gunman? only if you believe in fairy tales.
    witnesses saw a gunman firing a rifle behind the picket fence,thats why many of them rushed to the grassy knoll.He was there as a rifleman to get everybodys attention away from greer the driver shot him.

    also all the dallas doctors all said the wound in the back of his head was an exit wound, there isnt a shread of evidence oswald did it however there are multiple facts that prove there were multiple shooters with many bullets found all over the place that could not be traced back to oswald rifle..dont listen to the magic bullet theorists around here who worship the warren commission and believe in magic bullets,they are paid trolls sent here to derail any truth discussion on it.

    you will see someone come on here and try to say oswald did it but he always falls lat on his face and fails miserably all the time.its prety much impossible to debunk any of those facts that there was a conspiracy.:grin:


    these facts of mine here on page 20 of this thread prove beyond a doubt oswald was innocent and there werre multiple shooters.None of that magic bullet theorists ever have any answers for these facts and have failed miserably everytime to debunk them.:grin:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/jfk/2...ll-kennedy-but-did-not-kill-tippet-wel-2.html

    oh and to say oswald did it is to ignore the laws of physics,your head doesnt go violently backward and to the left if shot from behind it goes forward everytime as this photo shows.also there is an author who served in vietnam who was a distinguished sharpshooter and when he first went to dealy plaza on a visot there once and heard the explanation by the government and went up to the top of the building,he knew the warren commission was b.s because he never once saw a mans head go backwards when he shot them from behind in all his sniper kills. this guys head going forward in this vidoe is what happens EVERYTIME when shot from behind.

    the magic bullet theorits fail miserably each time to debunk these facts i have listed and this video.
     

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