Over 60% of US voters say Russia is enemy – poll

Polls like this explain why Democrats want to investigate Trump's collusion with the Russians and why any of his business dealings, transactions or contacts of any sort with a Russian get the attention and coverage they do from Democrats and their media.

 

"Waging an undeclared war in the Donbas region, Russia is pursuing a ruthless effort to destabilize Ukraine. Given the stakes for relations between " Russia and ."

 

And here comes propaganda train, choo-choo-fuсking-choo. -_____-

That's it, I'm going to sleep, have fun with circus.

 

Ninian - Without a Black Sea port Russian ships would have to sail from the North Sea to get to the Mediterranean... and that takes a long time. Nato knows this and that's why they want to block Russia's access.

There was a treaty in the 1930's called the Montreaux Convention. It gave Turkey the right to guard the Bosporus and the Dardenelle passageways into the Black Sea. All ships were allowed free passage during peace time except for warships that do not belong to Black Sea states...

According to this treaty, the American warships are not supposed to be there more than 21 days. In order to circumvent this, Washington sends in another warship every time one of them leaves... so that Nato has become a permanent fixture in the Black Sea.

 

Graham stop spinning his hat!
McCain get your tail off the Dais.

 

Uh, what about me? I don't need a lecture on my history, as I said earlier it was justified and brought about a quick end to the war.

Same thing with SU and Germany, and speaking of collateral damage, we all know of Stalin's little purge in Berlin after hostilities ceased, 100000 women brutally raped, former Warsaw pact countries, how many thousands deported, etc, etc. I can go on, hear if it?

 

Why shouldn't it be under kyiv control, it's in Ukraine isn't it? You're forgetting the city wants nothing to do with the BS that's going on in the LDPR with russian terrorists.

 

The terrorists are in Kiev, who bomb civilians in Donbass, who do not pay pensions to the old people who live there.

 

'Ninian - Without a Black Sea port Russian ships would have to sail from the North Sea to get to the Mediterranean...' zhanna how ulus fleet can leave the black sea ? When both Greece and turkey are in NATO?

 

How exactly presence of NATO in Black Sea blocks RF? Turkey, a part of NATO, still controls Bosphorus and Dardennelles, NATO already can use turkish ports, as well as have bases in Anatolia. So how exactly NATO is "not in Black Sea" and how exactly can it "block access to Mediterranean" to our fleet?

 

Judging by end of sentence - you still NEED a lecture on your history, AND morals, and on what being a decent human being means.

Sure, go on - so? Bad things are bad, that is true. Some stories are exxagerated, but they don't come out of nothing. There been terrible things done by some of soldiers of Union's army, that are worthy of shame.

And I do not excuse them as "justified" or "necessary". Your bombings slaughtered hundreds of thousands of CI-VI-LI-ANS. INNOCENT people. That - can not be justified, it's a MURDER. Deal with it. Learn it. Accept it. And look at what your government does today.

 

The American people are the most thoroughly brainwashed group on earth. Would one expect a different result?

As Aldous Huxley noted a century ago, one believes things because one has been conditioned to believe them. Today's MSM conditioned society thinks just as they are supposed to think, as they have been conditioned to think.

 

And your bombings of civilians past and present are somehow "justified"? Perhaps you should learn to deal, learn, and accept, but we, or I should say "I" will know that won't happen, yourself on the other hand, well look in the mirror.

 

They fight russian troops on "vacation" there.

 

Give me example of me justifying a murder.

 

Lol, just look at your countrys past, with its practises in other countries, it's rather obvious.

 

What you should ask is why does Nato want to be in the Black Sea, and how would the US react if Russian warships were in the Caribbean... even though it is an open sea, and not one established to be a closed one by law to protect the nations on it?

I know though how Washington would react. They would be up in arms and threatening war. The British were even tracking and making a big thing out of a Russian submarine going through the English Channel in plain site... if you can believe it?

 

Can you trust the results of any pollster? I recall when responding and seeing the results of internet polls that Trump was getting something like 80% of the votes, and Clinton was always below 30% and yet the main pollsters always showed Clinton winning.

I couldn't figure out why they were showing her as being ahead and what was their gain, until I realized it was so she could get more money from her supporters.

When Trump won everyone was shocked because they believed the polls... and boy was she in trouble with her supporters. That's why she dreamed up the connections with Russia when she was the only one that had connections. She not only sold uranium to Russia, but in return was given $400,000 for a speech in Moscow.

Now all the corrupt and criminals during the past administrations are panicking and facing jail time, so they want to impeach Trump and throw the country into a civil war to save their own skin.

 

Here's something that should be of interest. Russia's access to the Mediterranean depends on passage through the Bosporus and it is protected by law. Today Erdogan is building a waterway so that ships can bypass the Bosporus to relieve the traffic ...especially the tanker traffic.

This waterway will not be prone to the treaty, so Erdogan can create an environmental excuse to stop tanker traffic through the Bosporus and charge as much as he wants for them to pass through the waterway. He can also allow as many warships as he wants to enter the Black Sea and to stay as long as they want.

This makes Russia prone to blackmail, not only because Turkey can allow the fleet of any nation it wants to be stationed in the Black Sea, but because all Erdogan would need is a small environmental accident to close off the Bosporus to whoever he wants.

This is the one situation that could lead to WWIII... and I'm not joking. When Turkey shot down the Russian plane, Putin in a subtle threat, changed the official name Istanbul back to Constantinople... or so I read.

 

According to the Montreaux Convention, all ships are allowed free passage through the Bosporus, and the countries on the Black Sea are allowed to have warships. What is not allowed are warships of countries that are not on the Black Sea. They are only allowed to stay 21 days.

As for Turkey, it controls the Bosporus but it has to follow the law... something Turkey might end up circumventing in the future with the new waterway. Ships will be able to get to the Sea of Marmara without going through the Bosporus. If Turkey tries to cut off Russia's access to the Mediterranean by causing an environmental catastrophe in the Bosporus, then it means war... and you better believe it.

And as for Greece, there is no way that Greece will ever block Russian warships or any ships from the Aegean. Most are probably Greek merchant ships anyway. As a matter of fact there is no way the Greek government will ever go against Russia unless it wants a civil war.

The same holds true for Montenegro and other Orthodox countries that have been traditionally aligned with Russia. This is why the people in Montenegro are furious that the PM joined Nato.

Anyway I think Nato is done for ...as is the EU. Merkel said after the Nato meeting with Trump when he told them all to pay up, that Europe has to stop depending on other nations... meaning the US of course. There have been rumors that Germany is forming its own army and will have the armies of the other EU nations under it.

Whether true or not, it does seem it's the way Europe will be going. So prepare to enlist for Germany. Here's your boss:

 

Really? Looks like they fight the civilians there. If Russian troops were there the fight would be ended in a week with a full defeat of Kiev terrorrists.

 

By the numbers, the United States has murdered faaaar more people than Russia. Southeast Asia, Indonesia, East Timor, almost all of Latin America, Iran under the shah, parts of the Middle East. Know your own history.

 

Really, seems muscovites not doing much in Syria, I remember hearing them saying it'll be over before Orthodox Xmas 2016, what's happened?

 

LOL, you're funny, obviously you don't know yours, or selectively choose not too, keep dreaming.

 

What happened is that US supports terrorists in Syria (who are called opposition). Of course, it makes all the things slower.