Palestinians and the Greatest Political Scam of Modern Times

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  1. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    what a holohoax it is to believe bigots have a right to palestine based on religion...

    we all can see it.
    david's sol is way up his sphinxter
    the greatest statement of truth, so far acknowledged

    they created the aparthied of south africa for the diamond mines

    to the concentration camp called gaza
    is to believe bigots have a right to palestine (israel) based on religion
    like forgetting that zionist terrorized britain for stopping the overexhuberant influx of religious wingnuts into palestine, based on what happened in ww2


    and soon nukes to level the playing field.

    zionist are the terrorist of the region and ho they even created israel

    is with phosphorus rocket fire on civilians, oppression and the taking of the west bank by terrorism

    phosphorus weapon usage on civilians is a bonafide war crime

    so far every thread you have opened is about bias for bigots and the oppression of truth, for a bigot state called israel.

    the clicks that are coming may in fact just be nuclear launches

    I am getting sick of the hbender bias.

    How about you all?
     
  2. Uri

    Uri Active Member

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    what a holohoax
    Nice to see your true colors, bishadi.
     
  3. Bishadi

    Bishadi Banned

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    believing bigots/pigs and weak pukes with guns deserve a homeland because of a religious belief is the biggest hoax on this earth.

    to believe zionist puke deserve palestine based on what happened in ww2 is where the weak minded punks are going to relive a holocaust.

    The beliefs that the self chosen deserve what they have taken and are sustaining their irresponsible behavior is why your described "messiah", hates you!

    remember 'adele' you so

    "Rolling In The Deep"


    There's a fire starting in my heart
    Reaching a fever pitch, it's bringing me out the dark
    Finally I can see you crystal clear
    Go 'head and sell me out and I'll lay your ship [(*)(*)(*)(*)] bare
    See how I leave with every piece of you
    Don't underestimate the things that I will do

    There's a fire starting in my heart
    Reaching a fever pitch
    And it's bringing me out the dark

    The scars of your love remind me of us
    They keep me thinking that we almost had it all
    The scars of your love, they leave me breathless
    I can't help feeling
    We could have it all
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    Rolling in the deep
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    You had my heart inside your hand
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    And you played it, to the beat
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)

    Baby, I have no story to be told
    But I've heard one on you
    And I'm gonna make your head burn
    Think of me in the depths of your despair
    Make a home down there
    As mine sure won't be shared

    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    The scars of your love remind me of us
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    They keep me thinking that we almost had it all
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    The scars of your love, they leave me breathless
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    I can't help feeling
    We could have had it all
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    Rolling in the deep
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    You had my heart inside your hand
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    And you played it, to the beat
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    Could have had it all
    Rolling in the deep
    You had my heart inside your hand
    But you played it, with a beating

    Throw your soul through every open door
    Count your blessings to find what you look for
    Turn my sorrow into treasured gold
    You'll pay me back in kind and reap just what you've sown

    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    We could have had it all
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    We could have had it all
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    It all, it all, it all
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)

    We could have had it all
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    Rolling in the deep
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    You had my heart inside your hand
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    And you played it to the beat
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)

    We could have had it all
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)
    Rolling in the deep
    (Tears are gonna fall, rolling in the deep)
    You had my heart inside of your hand
    (You're gonna wish you never had met me)

    But you played it
    You played it
    You played it
    You played it to the beat
     
  4. Goomba

    Goomba Well-Known Member

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    They were promised a 'homeland' in Palestine.

    Even though the Palestinians owned roughly 90 percent of Palestine, the Plan gave them around 50 percent. You claimed that the Zionists were given mostly infertile land in a previous thread (which you failed to substantiate), and after some rebuttals by fellow members, you failed to rebut their refutations. Thus, I don't see the need to seriously consider your claims of fertile/infertile land....
     
  5. skeptic-f

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    The most annoying thing about all these Israel/Palestine threads is that 90% of the posters can only see the issues in monochrome - their side and its actions are white and the other side and its actions are black. The real world doesn't work like that - you get shades of gray and the job is to determine what shade of gray you are dealing with. That is why a solidly pro-Israel article by an American Jewish journalist who is yet another monochromist doesn't help understanding in the slightest.
     
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  6. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    What he said.
     
  7. Borat

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    Stop splitting hairs and manipulate words, every one on the planet knows and has always known they were promised their own country.

    Goomba, they never owned 90% of the land, half of the land was 'public', it belonged to the government. The arabs got Trans Jordan first, then they got more and better land than what they owned during the partition.

    More than half of the land allocated to the jews was the Negev desert, uninhabitable and unsuitable for agriculture at the time. BTW care to explain how in your view the Palestinians owned the Negev? Mathematically you can't own 90% of the land without owning the Negev, can you?
     
  8. Borat

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    LOL you of all people should talk, you could not even bring yourself to praise Israel for treating palestinian children injured in a West Bank traffic accident.
     
  9. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    Why should I praise doctors for doing something they do every day? Are Jewish doctors somehow exceptional and deserving of adulation? No, of course they aren't, and the subject was only brought up in a pathetic attempt at self-aggrandising. 'Look how wonderfully altruistic Jews are-they even treat Arabs!'
     
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    The terms Terrorist and Freedom Fighter are completely interchangeable .
    Their perceived legitimacy is solely a function of the side you choose to line up with .
    The obvious example on a world wide basis is the US .
    They are correctly regarded as Terrorist by all countries they interfere with .
    Similarly , to the people of the Caucasus Emirate , Russia is rightly seen as the Terrorist .
    These are easy to understand examples because separately the US and Russia behave exactly as Terrorists "should " --- completely disregard the Rule of Law and Human Rights .
    Obviously , the opposite will be perceived to be true by the US and Russia respectively , and who first deserves the Label is usually a matter of Political dishonesty and/or fighting over an irrelevance . Like kids squabbling .Israel and Palestine supporters are the classic example of Kids squabbling and missing the far more central issues .
    But kids will be kids , so my words won't be heard amidst the arguing .
     
  11. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    That sums it up. Everything else written is just a waste of time (except for the shades of gray).
     
  12. Borat

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    LOL, exactly, thank you for helping me make my point, despite a century of hostility Israel is treating palestinian children and footing the bill for the treatment, yet all that's coming out of your mouth is venom, anger and hatred.

    I don't see Brits treating French victims of French accidents, I don't see America treating Mexican victims of Mexican accidents. I do see Israel treating the children of their sworn enemies bent on wiping Israel off the map. Yes it is wonderfully altruistic of them and no, you are in no position to speak of the shades of gray.
     
  13. frodly

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    Well, it is from frontpage magazine, which immediately lets anyone with a brain know it is trash. However, he doesn't seem to make an argument. He points out the fact that he doesn't think the usual narratives are accurate, but doesn't do anything to dispel those narratives!! The Israelis are the aggressor, they are the hegemony, they are the dominant force in the power relation. They actually kill with heartlessness and using advanced death causing machinery, and we are meant to believe that is somehow better? Why? Opposition groups don't fire rockets indiscriminately for no reason, they do it because that is the avenue available to them. Yet there hasn't been a suicide attack since 2008. How many people has the IDF killed since then? Isreal apologists are forced to lie and distort to defend the homicidal and immoral policies of the Israeli state, just like supporters of Hamas have to do similar things to support the actions of that group. The problem is, the vast majority of Palestinians are not members of Hamas, and are just people trying to live their lives is as peaceful and prosperous a manner as possible, and the tyrannical Israeli state precludes those people from doing so!! There is no defending that sort of behavior, the best one can do is campaign for justice, and not to become an apologist for either side. Injustice is injustice, and the Israelis actions in Palestine are unjust. So one either needs to condemn them, or invent silly excuses for them. I choose to condemn them, you have chosen the silly excuses path. That is your right!!
     
  14. snakestretcher

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    Well, seeing as there's this thing called the 'English Channel' seperating us from France it isn't very likely we'd be treating French citizens in British hospitals on a daily basis, is it?

    As for your other comment, doctors, wherever they may be, are bound by the Hippocratic oath to treat whomever comes before them. So why you're waving flags over this non-event is beyond me. Or is it an attempt to show Israel in a better light-because it could hardly be any worse...

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/hippocratic-oath-today.html#modern
     
  15. frodly

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    Not this again!! There was already a thread about that pointless story!! I already explained that no one ever claimed all Israelis were terrible evil people, or at least no intelligent person claims that. So the fact that some Israeli doctor is not a monster is hardly surprising!!

    However, you couldn't possibly be more wrong. American doctors help Mexican patients ALL THE TIME!! Much, much, much, much, much, more than Israeli doctors help Palestinians. I mean likely thousands of times more. And on top of that, there is doctors without borders, where doctors go around the world helping people. Surprisingly some doctors do that. Sure there are some doctors who do it for the money, or for the interesting stuff they get to do, but surprisingly many just like to help people. How does the fact that Israel also has doctors that like to help people, just like every country in the world, change the often barbaric nature of the treatment Palestinians receive at the hands of the Israeli government and the IDf? Of course, it doesn't!!
     
  16. Khalil

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    Balfour made it clear that the British supported a Jewish homeland in Palestine, not a state. The intent was that these Jewish immigrants would become Palestinians - not Israelis. Nonetheless it wouldn't "belong to the Jews" since it was to "protect the rights of the non-Jewish inhabitants."

    According to a British publication "Village Statistics 1945" the public lands in all of Palestine was only 5.67% (This includes non-settled land). 84% of the Negev was categorized as unassigned lands - not public lands. Further, it showed that out of 60% of Palestine (So excluding the Negev) that 48.50% was owned by Arabs, the Jews owned 5.67% and as I stated earlier the Public lands was 5.67%. The British government did make a statement on who they believed the Negev or Bersheeba district belonged to. 15.39% of the Negev was owned by Arabs, and over 100,000 Arabs inhabited the Negev during 1945. And 84% of the Negev's ownership was undefined, so there is no telling how much land was actually owned by Arabs, but as we know much of it was inhabited by Arabs. Also, only 0.02% of the Negev was actually public lands. Although, the whole of these lands were traditionally recognized to belong to the Bedouin tribes as said by the "Village Statistics 1945" publication. The Palestine Government during the Mandate didn't even consider the land under public lands stating it is unsafe to assume that all lands south of Bersheeba or East of Hebron are empty. From this data we can conclude that the very least 63.89% of the land definitely belonged to the Arabs, while the 84% undefined land in the Negev was recognized by the British to belong to the Arabs whom over 100,000 Arabs inhabited - hence the Negev was not public lands according to the British. Thus we could say that roughly 88% of Palestine belonged to the Arabs.
     
  17. Khalil

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    Israel being the occupier is obligated to do that.
     
  18. Uri

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    Adele?
    and you even bolded the "You're gonna wish you never had met me" part???
    WTF???

    At least i had a good laugh.

    Nighty night bishadi, dont let the bedbugs bite.
     
  19. Borat

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    Israel being the occupying power is absolutely 100% NOT obligated to treat all Palestinian sick and injured in Israeli hospitals and pay for the treatment. Are you kidding? The Palestinians have their own hospitals. Israel volunteered to help. You could have said 'Thank you Israel' instead.
     
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    Bingo Khalil, great job, thank you! As per your data the Arabs owned:

    48.5% of 60% of the land (excluding the Negev) = 29% and
    15.39% of 40% of the land (the Negev) = 6%

    total arab ownership: 29% + 6% = 35%

    the Arab's share of the land during the Partition 45%


    CASE CLOSED
     
  21. Khalil

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    let me rephrase this
     
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    The only people that live life like it is shades of gray are people with no moral center. Black is black, white is white, right is right and wrong is wrong. Nothing a (*)(*)(*)(*) bit of gray about it.
     
  23. Borat

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    LOL, Khalil, it's arithmetic 101. Did not you guys invent zero? :)

    Based on your logic (or lack of it) if Arabs owned 70% of the land (excluding the Negev) and 70% of the Negev they'd own 140%. Of course it's mathematical nonsense. You don't add percentages, you need to recalculate the numbers

    48% of 60% of the land = 60% * 0.48 = 29%
    15% of 40% of the land = 40% * 0.15 = 6%

    The total 35%
     
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    They are. I wouldn't cross the street to (*)(*)(*)(*) on them if they had just blown their own legs off trying to murder people.

    They saved one fauxstinian (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and she repaid the favor by trying to get into the hospital and set off the bomb her ugly ass had strapped on to take out innocent people.

    Israel is way too patient with these inbred, brain dead satan loving freaks. See what 1400 years of cousins marrying cousins does for the gene pool? Have you seen them in the streets, screaming and yelling and waving satans book? They all look like rabid apes.

    Worthless (*)(*)(*)(*) stains on the fabric of humanity.
     
  25. snakestretcher

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    Now, how about posting about something you have a modicum of knowledge of. You evidently know zero about the Palestinian situation otherwise you wouldn't post such judgemental crap.
     

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