Pedosexuality

lol - gay people can marry now so why don't we make it legal to rape children? Is that really what's being suggested could happen? Sheesh

 

I don't need to 'told you so'

 

You're extoling the virtue of backward religious law.

 

As a declared bigot against pedophiles I can only say that the only good pedophile is a dead one.

I don't care if they are sick, or they are born that way or the choose to be, I'd believe they should be removed from the gene pool with alacrity.
Death should be the maximum sentence and I'd volunteer to pull the trigger.

There isn't a snowball's chance but I hope that pedophiles will try to claim equal rights because that trying will bring the true human impact of such a heinous crime and harden people's animosity towards the scum.

 

I'm sure NAMBLA is working on it, but this will never go anywhere. Historically, we've been giving our children more and more protections, not less. That's not going to change. Parents aren't going to start thinking it's okay for someone to rape their child. Almost everyone in Congress has kids and/or grandkids. Do you really think they'd be okay with pedos raping their families?

 

Pointing out Leftist hypocrisy.

 

I'm a libertarian

Further Islam is a conservative ideology.

 

You know it's interesting you bring up your religious cousin as an example. I was going to suggest you move to Yemen if you want homosexuality illegalized. That seems to be a better country for you

 

I asked you to link to a case where such a person was arrested, not a law designed to look like you're doing something about the massive problem of Americans going to Asia to have sex with children.

 

Sorry, I don't have that info.

 

Here's what you're missing. In the homosexual community all of the members advocating for the recognition of their rights were of the same group: adults wishing to associate with, have intimate relations with and perhaps marry and form legal families with members of the same sex.

In the same regard, there really is no such thing as a pedophile community except in the way they might discuss their wants share illegal pornography etc. The people they want to have sex with don't belong to that group. The group does not contain children advocating for their rights to have sex and form legal families with adults. That's a fundamental difference.

Also with pedophiles their right to have sex with a particular child is only subject, in a legal sense, to a temporary restriction. If "Uncle Joey" really wants to have intimate relationships and maybe marry Jenny or Johnny, he just has to wait until the're 18 and, if they consent he can.

Gays were consenting adults the restrictions on whom were permanent. Prior to Lawrence they in some states couldn't legally have sex EVER they couldn't legally marry EVER no matter if as a couple they wished to do either from the age of 18 until 80 they still couldn't do it.

Children are restricted by law from doing a number of things: gambling, drinking, driving, piloting an aircraft etc. if an adult permits them to do these things it is the adult that is responsible for the misdemeanour or felony not the child. That's because they are held to be not responsible for their actions in a legal sense.

That's why there's no comparison in these cases and never will be any more than you can say if we permit ANY adult couples to have sex then we must permit adults to have sex with children. It's a nonsensical parallel.

I also think the poster you highlighted is bogus. Probably put together deliberately to raise a response. I've known a number of gay people for years and I've never heard of lGBT"P".

It's over. Gays can marry it's not going back. Move on.

 

I agree with your analysis. As our society becomes more empowering of younger people, they themselves will demand more sexual freedom. The drive towards paedophilia will actually come from the sexualized youngsters themselves, as a kind of civil right. They may be encouraged by paedophiles, but the pressure will come from below the age of consent.

BTW, I'll just flag my objection to this thread being placed in the gay and lesbian section. The issue is gender-nuetral

 

This is another obvious attempt to connect same sex marriage with pedophilia and indirectly gay men with man-boy sex. It is as futile as it is disgusting. We are all out now. Everybody knows a gay man as a friend, brother, a cousin, a co-worker and yes as teachers, day care providers, and boy scout leaders. We have children, we adopt and we do foster care. We are not sitting in the bushes waiting for a boy to get off the merry-go-round and people know that. The tactics that worked to stereotype us before, will no longer.

 

Agreed. But at the same time we have also been giving them more freedoms, especially in the realms of sexuality. They are two countering forces.

That is a good point (I think you mean the courts are becoming more willing to deem non-consent for people considered vulnerable - right?). I don't have a strong answer to that, and I expect that trend to continue. The position might retreat in respect to considering teenagers as necessarily vulnerable, especially as the girls in particular become more sexually aggressive.

That is another good counter-point. However, to use the liberation of homosexuals as a reference of social behaviour only, and not to draw equivalency or to suggest any connection, the laws and social condemnation became increasingly harsh up to the point when it reversed because, perhaps, the condemnation had just gone too far.

None of this relates to pre-pubescent sex, by the way, which is so unquestionably horrid and universally sickening that it will never be legal or acceptable.

 

I honestly think this hashtag is a hoax.

 

None of that means anything. Actions are louder than words.

 

Well, here's a message for you. Since "conservatives" selected the thrice married, womanizing, ***** grabber in Chief as their leader, they have lost all allusion to holier-than-thou moral "superiority". In fact the pretense is so glaring, it's laughable.

It also might surprise you to learn that it was liberal, progressive women that pushed for raises in the age of consent not conservative men who never lifted a finger to do anything about it. In fact, as in many contemporary, socially-conservative, male dominated, patriarchal societies it was them who were marrying the 13 year olds and in some places more than one if they could afford it.

The blame in your "message" is misplaced!

 

But it is such an entertaining form of trolling

 

Raping children isn't the same as making love with another consenting adult of the same sex. One if these is illegal and the other isn't. One by its nature is very harmful and the other isn't. One is rape and the other isn't.

 

It means you have more in common with them than you'd like to admit.

 

He most certainly is an activist

 

Yes, it's the old "I was just saying" excuse.

 

I don't understand. Do you mean the thread's opening post is intended to be anti-homosexual but shrouded in a foil of paedophilia?

Then I suspect you're right.

But I've found the tendency to apply motive when its not explicitly stated gives the impression of stifling debate, and actually ends up empowering the protagonist. So I prefer to argue the explicit issue logically instead.

 

You must admit the correlation that exists between the vocally anti-gay and the ones hoping pedophilia follows the progress set by gay rights is quite alarming.

 

that's exactly what I mean.

Well, there really isn't much to discuss. If raping kids is wrong this goes nowhere.

We can say is wrong pretty definitively. It absolutely causes mental and physical harm to children.

One can't say that about homosexuality definitively.