Pelosi tells Dems she wants to see Trump ‘in prison’

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you speaking from experience?
     
  2. Seth Bullock

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    She's just being vindictive because he grounded her last December.
     
  3. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Trump is now mostly just a barking dog.
     
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    Yeah... the President of the United States that is about to force Mexico to do what Democrats in Congress refuse to do is, "now mostly just a barking dog".

    You Leftists are so much fun.
     
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    Lol as she's breaking the news to dems that impeachment isn't going to happen, she's trying to sound furious.
     
  6. US Conservative

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    Go with it.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just had a special prosecutor dig through his life with a fine tooth comb and found nothing.

    What do you think Mueller has been doing for the last two years?

    He straight up admitted he found nothing to charge Trump with.

    And you folks are never going to get anyone to buy your lame argument that Trump tried to obstruct the one guy that could prove his innocence, which Mueller did.

    What the hell would be the point of Trump doing that?
     
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    She has a very rich husband.

    However, there have been some scandals particularly around investments she has made with him.

    She just hasn't been caught on anything yet.
     
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    He found several potential cases of obstruction which they want to review for themselves.
    They’re all also close to getting his financial records.
     
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    A couple of things here.

    They will be looking at the exact same evidence Mueller looked at which he couldn't find any proof of a crime.

    How do you think they are going to find something that doesn't exist?

    Mueller had a high priced team of lawyers who were experts in this field and came up with nada.

    Mueller has also completely gone through Trumps financials and came up with nothing so what is congress going to find when they get them also? On top of that the IRS has been going through Trumps financials since about 2012 I believe (yes he is under constant investigation) and has never found anything but you think AOC is going to get a peek (which she never will and neither will you) and find something everyone else missed?

    The only people in congress allowed to see his returns are those on the specific committee requesting them and they must be viewed under closed room proceedings and they are not allowed to reveal what they find under penalty of law.

    You are never going to see Trumps financials unless he authorizes it and he won't.

    He can also stop the committee from seeing them by declaring executive privilege which he has not done yet which means that the committee has to try and rush a case up the Supreme Court who is unlikely to give them what they want anyways.
     
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    So true.
     
  12. The Mello Guy

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    Mueller made it clear the book was still open on obstruction. Did you not watch his press conference?
    His personal finances are not covered by executive privilege.
    What evidence is there mueller saw his finances? Maybe he did and that’s one of the pending investigations into him. Either way congress still needs them.
     
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  13. Spooky

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    Mueller also specifically stated he found no evidence of a crime. Not even on obstruction or a crime would have been offered up. He may not be able to prosecute on that crime but he sure as hell would make it publicly known.

    Tax returns are most definitely covered under executive privilege until a court rules otherwise. Researching this story I found every site telling me this so it's true. He could be forced by a court to explain why his returns fall under executive privilege but it would stop anyone from seeing them in the meantime. Even the internal IRS memo everyone is talking about states this.

    If Mueller did not review Trumps financials he would not have been doing his job. Any link to Russia would most likely come through financial records and that would be the first place he probably started. Even congress knows that Mueller went through Trumps tax returns because they asked him to see them.

    Trumps financials have been completely disseminated and there is nothing there.

    Do you honestly think that Mueller would be investigating the president and ignoring any of the financial part of it?

    OMG
     
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    Have you notice all of the responses from the conservatives? Are they not mostly one line pearls of un-wisdom.

    I've come to really like Nancy Pelosi. I also agree with her on her position concerning Trump. She has said that the primary reason that she doesn't want to impeach, is because of the Senate Republicans. Mitch McConnell and the rest are not about to vote to convict. If the House did go ahead and impeach, and the Senate acquitted, Trump would be able to claim innocence. She has no desire to give that to him.

    I'm also quite certain that she sees Trump as less than honorable. She is also quite aware of the Republican efforts to cheat their way into office - even pointing out how the win in 2018 was even greater than it seems, considering the hurdles they had to overcome, even going so far as saying the governorship of Georgia was gained by criminality. I'm sure her plan is to let Trump keep making a fool of himself, like he did in Japan and England, or like when he was so upset because Nancy said she he was involved in a cover-up. Trump is sure to be gone in 2021.
     
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    She made some money from corruption.
     
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    Trump is going to add a 5% tax at the border that you are going to pay. How is that forcing Mexico to do anything. Or is the tariff just another stunt to gin up the base. Doing pretended harm to Mexico plays well at his rallies.
     
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    That is false. The investigations were limited to Russian interference. Mueller could find no crime because everyone lied. Isn't that what they are all going to prison over, lying?
     
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    Impeachable offenses are whatever offenses Congress decides them to be so.
     
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    Damn, I didn't know Don is a commie! Do tell.
     
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    Well, you know how our resident right-wingers are always insisting that commies and nazis are the same thing, so...
     
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    That child grounded members of his own party. And yet he continued to waste millions on his golf trips. In other words, the baby in the WH is a hypocrite.
     
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    Funny....his base will suffer because of it, but stupidly, they cheered anyways.
     
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    False. Mueller believed there was plenty evidence of obstructions, but he could not prosecute.
     
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    It seems to me that quite a few of them have never read enough to know what they are. It seems as if, to them, they are just derogatory words to call others.
     
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    First of all, if Mueller could find no crime then why are they going to jail?

    Second of all, he had no limitations.

    His mandate gave him authority to investigate anything even remotely connected to Russia. Basically if he even got a hint of anything he was empowered to investigate it.

    Trumps financials certainly fall into that.
     

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