#PIZZAGATE, real? fake? conspiracy? cover up?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by TheGreatSatan, Dec 6, 2016.

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What do you think of PIZZAGATE?

  1. Seems totally real

    4 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Could be real

    9 vote(s)
    32.1%
  3. Just another bunch of lies

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    21.4%
  4. A conspiracy

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  5. "fake news" nothing to see here, move along people

    9 vote(s)
    32.1%
  1. TheGreatSatan

    TheGreatSatan Banned

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    Recently, PIZZAGATE has "trickled", indirectly into the news. Most people don't know what it is. The Short version is that Wikileaks exposed what could be a child sex ring operating in DC that serves the worlds elites.

    The censorship

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...it-bans-pizzagate/?utm_term=.acf609b519f6came down hard.

    Reddit closed the pizza gate section.

    NYT and BBC claim the story is fake news. Why? Because they literally called the guy that runs the pizza place (who had his name changed so it says "I love children" in french), and asked him if he was a pedophile. He said no. Case closed, fake story. :roflol:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/t...ria-is-not-a-child-trafficking-site.html?_r=0

    If you want to know a little more, I recommend this video.

    [video=youtube;tyh1dzNTTEI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyh1dzNTTEI&feature=youtu.be[/video]

    Now there are no vids explaining why PIZZAGATE is fake. Just claims that it is. Also, Jon Podesta seems to have bought a lot of art that probably came from a Michael Jackson estate sale. He is a total creeper.

    The story continues to grow. For a fake news story, it's weird because it has no source. Just people looking into Wikileaks emails and the people involved and describing what they found. The more you look into this, the creeper it gets. Many establishment types are implicated. The collectives drones are feverishly parroting the talking point "fake news, nothing to see here, move along people" but as we all know they will say/do anything to protect the establishment.

    So, what do you all think? Real? Fake? Conspiracy? Prank? I do recommend you watch the vid before you decide. Maybe delve into it a bit on your own. You could be the drone that proves it's fake and make a vid and be a hero... or find out that your government is run by some sick SOBs.
     
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    “Treem”, will be available on mobile platforms for free...
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    New Social Network Aims to Limit Spread of 'Fake News'
    December 08, 2016 | WASHINGTON — Amid a flurry of reporting on what some are calling a flood of “fake news” on social media, a new social network was being unveiled Thursday, with its backers saying it might slow the spread of inaccurate information.
     
  3. TheGreatSatan

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    Yo Waltky, long time no see. So who decides if it's fake? Why is this story fake? The more you look into it, the more crap you discover. It smells really bad. When that app tells you Hillary is gunna win Texas, is a real story, does that make it real?
     
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    [video=youtube;Gi6ryNOg8z0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi6ryNOg8z0[/video]
     
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    Every election cycle brings out the lunatics and nuts and their wiled-eyed conspiracies. Pizzagate is no exception.
     
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    [video=youtube;sLgNm_ay4Sk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLgNm_ay4Sk[/video]

    Guess she is a liar....

    [video=youtube;9SNsrPkxMGQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SNsrPkxMGQ[/video]

    and her....
     
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    The establishment strikes back. Is Colbert right? Seems he over simplify the whole thing.

    [video=youtube;tfXWXNItF_Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfXWXNItF_Y[/video]
     
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    There is no evidence that it is real, just claims that it is.
     
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    Colbert, like a good collectivist drone parrots the line "there is no basement at Comet Pizza". This guy disagrees.

    [video=youtube;B4M2zbeuP7s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4M2zbeuP7s[/video]
     
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    I was unsure who would win last month on the eve of the election. Some better "fake news" sites on Youtube I watch were vastly more accurate in predicting the real news than the fakers in CNN, ABC NBC, etc.

    [video=youtube;2ihWm9NqAc0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ihWm9NqAc0[/video]
     
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    Don't you wanna know either way? I know it sounds hella far fetched, but if the ruling classes of civilizations didn't have a history of doing this kinda stuff for all of history, maybe it would be safe to assume it's fake. DC also has variety of rich diplomats who are from country's where pedophilia is common and legal. An ideal place yo run a child sex ring.
     
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    Any time you start seeing something that "sounds hella far fetched," that's where I normally require evidence before believing it. If someone were to tell me that you were secretly a Russian operative who was actually responsible for creating the fake news story about Pizzagate to begin with, I'd demand evidence. I wouldn't say "Well, gee, I don't know either way, so I guess I have to pretend it is a totally legit accusation that should be treated like news until you provide incontrovertible evidence that you aren't a Russian spy."
     
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    If I had a "history" of working with the Russians, and I changed my name to say "I love Putin" in french, wouldn't that smell just a little to you? What if my Facebook had pics of me in my house and all the art on the walls was like Russian propaganda stuff? Would that smell to you? Maybe, what they say about me being a Russia spy is plausible?
     
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    If you are implying that you actually have evidence of some sort of truth behind Pizzagate, then go for it.
     
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    Neither one of these videos have anything to do with Pizzagate. At all. Both predate even the existence of Comet Ping Pong, which was founded in 2006. The first doesn't even have anything to do with Clinton at all, but with claims of Satanic ritual abuse in Australia. Yes, the whole Satanic ritual abuse thing ended up outed as a fraud later on. As for the woman in the second video, her name is Cathy O'Brien. She also claims that she witnessed George H.W. Bush using hologram technology to hide his true form, and that he is in fact a reptilian extraterrestrial. Still think she isn't a liar?
     
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    The ring existed before the place itself. There is more then 1 shop and person involved. The guy that had his name changed to say I love children in French, is just 1 and a more obvious one.
     
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    Russian hackers (lol) gave wiki Jon Podesta's emails. The evidence is there, at least enough to make it smell. Whatever you do, don't look into it yourself. Lots of vids out there. Check them out.
     
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    So far you haven't offered even the slightest spec of evidence. Just accusations. Again, the first video isn't even remotely connected to Pizzagate in any way and, instead, has to do with the long-discredited SRA hoaxes of the 80s and 90s. The second video is from a woman who also claims to have witnessed Bush use hologram technology to disguise his true reptilian extraterrestrial form.

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    Can you be specific? The videos you have provided so far are way, way off the mark.
     
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    Tell you the truth, I'm kinda playing devils advicat ;) Those are just the first ones that come up. I didn't actually watch the whole vids. I know the crazies are jumping on this but if there is some truth to this, we should seek it out. I'm not sure if its real or not. But I think it smells.
     
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    Pizzagate all started here. -> https://wikileaks.org/podesta-email...o=&nofrom=&noto=&count=50&sort=6#searchresult

    Now with the DNC, Hillary and her corrupt campaign and Pedosta any thing wouldn't surprise me and any thing is possible. Add MC2 Modeling Agency and Jeffrey Epstein, that raises a red flag.

    It started with this e-mail. -> https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795

    Question for the gay and pedophile community:

    Are pillows code word for knee pads ?
     
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    "Pizzagate" has been going on for years, long before this election. Its just now reached the main stream media, which is why its being dismissed as "fake" by the "progressives" - they are scared.
     
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    I think the sampling of the surveys did not represent the preferences of the voters, if they did some brainwashing, I would be alarmed if Clinton wins, but she lost. Well if their are some doubts then we should apply the most ideal and lenient means, ask and look for the truth first than brandishing or even using deadly methods.
     
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    Washington Post admits article on ‘Russian propaganda’ & ‘fake news’ based on sham research

    Published time: 8 Dec 2016 | 10:49 GMT

    Facing threats of legal action, the Washington Post has been forced to add an editor’s note distancing the paper from a dubious website, PropOrNot, which it had initially endorsed as a group of nonpartisan experts on “Russian propaganda.”
    The Post came under fire on social media for its provocative hit piece which claimed that “Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda campaign” actually influenced the US presidential election.

    The article, published late last month, referenced “independent researchers” who allegedly determined that Russian state media, RT and Sputnik News among them, produced “misleading articles online with the goal of punishing Democrat Hillary Clinton, helping Republican Donald Trump and undermining faith in American democracy.”

    One of the main sources cited by the Post was PropOrNot, “an independent team of concerned American citizens” who, according to the site’s description, are “volunteering time and skills to identify propaganda – particularly Russian propaganda – targeting a US audience.”

    After the publication of its evidence-free article, the newspaper was sent a letter from one of the websites listed, threatening a defamation lawsuit.

    “We have another post today that describes how the few things that are verifiable on the PropOrNot site don’t pan out, as in the organization is not simply a group of inept propagandists but also appears to deal solely in fabrications,” Naked Capitalism – a US blog on finance, economics and politics – said on its website.

    “If the site is flagrantly false with respect to things that can be checked, why pray tell did the Washington Post and its fellow useful idiots in the mainstream media validate and amplify its message? Strong claims demand strong proofs, yet the Post appeared content to give a megaphone to people who make stuff up with abandon. No wonder the members of PropOrNot hide as much as they can about what they are up to; more transparency would expose their work to be a tissue of lies.”

    Jim Moody, an attorney representing the website, stressed in a letter to the Washington Post on Sunday that the newspaper “did not provide even a single example of ‘fake news’ allegedly distributed or promoted by Naked Capitalism or indeed any of the 200 sites on the PropOrNot blacklist.”

    Award-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald, significant in bringing Edward Snowden’s US security revelations to the public, labeled the Post story“total journalistic garbage.”

    “More troubling still, PropOrNot listed numerous organizations on its website as ‘allied’ with it, yet many of these claimed ‘allies’ told The Intercept, and complained on social media, they have nothing to do with the group and had never even heard of it before the Post published its story,” Greenwald wrote in response to the article.

    In his article, the Post’s Craig Timberg did not initially include a link to PropOrNot’s website. “If readers had the opportunity to visit the site, it would have become instantly apparent that this group of ostensible experts far more resembles amateur peddlers of primitive, shallow propagandistic clichés than serious, substantive analysis and expertise; that it has a blatant, demonstrable bias in promoting NATO’s narrative about the world; and that it is engaging in extremely dubious McCarthyite tactics about a wide range of critics and dissenters,” Greenwald noted.

    A link to PropOrNot's report is now featured under an 'update.'

    Following a storm of negative comments on social media, with many accusing the newspaper of “crazy lies,” saying the Post is actually the “real propaganda peddler,” the dubious article was appended.

    “The Washington Post on Nov. 24 published a story on the work of four sets of researchers who have examined what they say are Russian propaganda efforts to undermine American democracy and interests. One of them was PropOrNot, a group that insists on public anonymity, which issued a report identifying more than 200 websites that, in its view, wittingly or unwittingly published or echoed Russian propaganda. A number of those sites have objected to being included on PropOrNot’s list, and some of the sites, as well as others not on the list, have publicly challenged the group’s methodology and conclusions.
    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.rt.com/document/5848fce4c461884c7b8b463c/amp?client=safari
     

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