PolitiFact: Only 22% of Obama's Listed Comments Rated as True

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nancy Pelosi - 38% rated mostly false or lies.

    Rick Perry beat her by one percentage point. Congratulations. All other Republicans are bigger liars, according to the OP methodology.
     
  2. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    I think he may have used a known lefty source, like I try to.

    Just to shut up those who repeat things like "hahah.. a FOX link, so it must not be true!!!!!"... and all the other FOX insults we see here a hundred times a day.

    Regardless, he never made it about Politifact.

    When you post a link, are them making the thread about the source? Or the information in the link?

    I know you leftys hate to think Obama lies, but it seems like you could have understood his use of the source in the first place, instead of distracting from the topic, and making it about him.
     
  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Note -- the percentages listed for each person are for ratings of "mostly false" or "false" or "pants on fire"
     
  4. 1wiseguy

    1wiseguy New Member

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    Your arrogance does not give you standing as to what is right and wrong.

    And apparently they are correct and PolitiFact supports their claim. If you are saying that OWEblamer isn't a liar then make yourself relevant and post your evidence to the contrary and quit sniveling.

    It's all irrelevant. They are not the POTUS and the subject of this thread.

    No, it matters on if they are currently the POTUS and the subject of the thread. Personally I detest liars of all types, but that is not the subject of this thread.

    Yes, just listen to the irrelevance of yourself to this topic. The topic is not about the lies of elected officials. Start you own thread if you want to discuss that topic.... it should be a long one.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly. And you are correct, dishonesty IS the nation's biggest problem.

    Thank you for being ahead of the rest of these forumites.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that is why I don't think I trust Politifact.

    Although there is one thing you didn't mention of all those above.....only one of them is the President of the United States.
     
  7. SourD

    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    Lefties LOVE liars because they are liars. They HAVE to be in order to force people into submission to the agenda.
     
  8. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think it was "lefties" who loved the really big liars like Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain and Sarah Palin, using the OP methodology.
     
  9. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    that's funny considering you're thanking a guy that once linked to a site that discussed dinosaurs on noah's ark


     
  10. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The others are just wannabes. But if truthfulness is an important criteria, its a good think Obama was elected and not them, based on the OP methodology.
     
  11. 1wiseguy

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    And this is relevant, how?........
    :roflol:
     
  12. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't it obvious? It shows, using that OP methodology, that we'd have a bigger liar in the WH had we elected anyone of the Republicans wannabes.
     
  13. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    nancy pelosi tells the truth only 8% of the time.
     
  14. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    she's light-years above you
     
  15. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    na, I provide sources all the time, and everyone knows it.
     
  16. Foolardi

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    Actually that is incomplete.Obama came into power because he had his Chicago
    thug Campaign mngrs. dictate to the media,what is and is not allowed.Using the
    2 words OFF LIMITS It eventually meant that practically anything about
    Obamas past and even his current voting record as a Liberal freshman Senator
    { Only Bernie Sanders had a more liberal voting record } were Off Limits.
    The word Liberal was not allowed.Obama was pushed and touted as a Moderate.
    A voice of reason.At the time I thought it unbelievable and would never pass muster.
    But McCain didn't seem to appear too upset.McCain was the real moderate,after all.
    Which really lends insult to injury,considering Lifetime Republican Colin Powell
    decided to endorse Obama just at a key time { just weeks before the election }.
    Powell later used the excuse that the Republicans were guilty of not running a moderate
    candidate..What the heck was McCain if not a Moderate { RINO } republican.
    We have been conned ... but good.
    Well not me,per se but the masses.
     
  17. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    what a joke

    he is a moderate


    "We find that President Obama is the most ideologically moderate Democratic president in the post-war period, with a first dimension DW-NOMINATE Common Space score of -0.329. President Lyndon Johnson, the second-most moderate Democratic president in this period, has a score of -0.345. President Obama’s ideological position is estimated from his “votes” (statements of support or opposition) on 282 congressional roll call votes. This amount is somewhat low; for example, President George W. Bush “voted” 453 times during his last term in office. However, it is adequate to recover his latent ideological score."

    [​IMG]

    http://voteview.com/blog/?p=735
     
  18. SFJEFF

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    I know you obama haters think that only Obama lies.

    I think all politicians lie.

    The OP made this about Politifact when he used it in the title- I am glad to show it again

    Here is the title of the thread- the title you created:

    PolitiFact: Only 22% of Obama's Listed Comments Rated as True

    The thread therefore is about Politifact- he cited Politifact. And he had previously claimed that only a 'left wing hack' would cite Politifact.

    What do you think- do you think- do you think only a 'left wing hack' would cite Politifact? That is the claim the OP has made.

    Or maybe this whole thread is just an admission that your original claim was just partisan posturing.

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    Well I am trying to ascertain whether his point is that Politifact is a good source- since he cites it to support this thread- or not a good source- like he had previously said.

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    Pure idiocy.
     
  19. 1wiseguy

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    No, you're wishful thinking is pure extrapolation. We don't know and we can not predict their behaviors when they become POTUS. You can compare OWEblaemer's lies to when he was a Senator to other Congressman or compare his lies from when he was a Senator to the lies he tells today and then compare him to others Senators who became POTUS, but you can't make any other comparisons that are not direct.
     
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    If I say Last night we had hamburger when we really had fish, I am not being truthful. If I say we are going to have hamburger for dinner next tuesday, but we end up having fish, I was likely not being dishonest--things just changed. I believe that Obama reasonably believed most of the things he said about the ACA were true when he said them--the bureaucrats behind closed doors just came down a different way while he was out playing with Tiger Woods' golf balls behind Oprah's big house.
     
  21. Casper

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    Thanks for proving my point. Righties condon in themselves what they condem in others.
    Pssst, I will post where and what I want, your importance is only in your mind, but thanks again for showing your class for all to see.
     
  22. dujac

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    what if someone says, "i'm going to have fish tonight"

    then finds that there's no fish available, did he lie?
     
  23. FearandLoathing

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    I have to agree.

    I am no Obama fan, not even close, but it serves no purpose to exaggerate the situation as he is being accused of doing.

    He lied. We get that. There is ample evidence of at least one "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan", but is it necessary to quantify that erroneously?

    If so, I have even less respect for the Right as I do Obama since the right claims to walk the high road.
     
  24. Really People?

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    Weird...

    When Politifact rated Obama's statements as true in the past, they were not to be trusted...

    Now that we've gotten this 22% point, they are trustworthy?

    Hmmm....

    Also, that's only the 100% true statements...

    There's also mostly true (24%) and half true (27%), neither of which indicate an outright lie...

    There are several factors that play into those ratings...

    In fact, 27% fall into the false category...
     
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    Light years behind you, dear light years.
     

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