Presidents Reagan and President George W. Bush, my two favourite American Presidents.

DennisTate · Jun 9, 2015

I didn't join Canada's Liberal party back in 2009 to make everybody happy.

On the official Liberal Party discussion forum I get the impression that many active Liberal Party writers think that I am some sort of Conservative Party plant?!

I'm not. I am basically happy with Canada's Liberal Party.. I am really glad that Liberal Leader Mr. Stephan Dion made it clear that the Liberal Party takes climate change very seriously.

I was also impressed when Liberal Party leader Mr. Michael Ignatieff stated that the 2009 budget tabled by P. M. Stephen Harper was relatively "liberal" considering that it was done up by P. M. Stephen Harper and his assistants.

But what I feel is needed most in Canadian politics is for members of all major political parties to apply the principles elaborated on in the film "The Secret."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(book)

Liberals, Conservatives, the NDP and Canada's Green Party need to talk to each other more and cooperate at a higher level to set in motion win - win - win - win initiatives in Canada, and around the world.

Although this is a terribly un-cool thing to do.. I admit it. back in 2012, if I had been American I would almost certainly have voted for Mitt Romney and back in 2008 I almost certainly would have voted for McCain - Palin. In the event that Mitt Romney enters the Presidential race and is elected as POTUS in 2016. my having expressed my opinion.. might actually turn out to be of some value?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=401463&page=3&p=1065082742#post1065082742

Would Mitt Romney as President in 2016 inspire Iran to scrap nuclear weapon plans?

CourtJester said: ↑

Actually managing to,fuse two atoms may be technically nuclear fusion but it is way,way, distant from building an actual functioning commercial reactor. And building a functioning reactor is a long way from building a nuclear bomb and a delivery system.

And of course this is all irrelevant to the question of Iran developing nuclear weapons. To me the fact that neither the US or Isreal seems to have any evidence of a nuclear weapons program in Iran and yet both countries use this to stoke anti Iran feelings seems ominously reminiscent of the buildup to the Iraq war.

Also note that no country has been able to build a Sucessful commercial fusion reactor. This is the holy grail of energy generation. All reactors currently are fission reactors.
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Are you joking?

If so.LOL! . because that is funny how in the world could an American teenager. building a workable atomic bomb.. minus the enriched uranium or plutonium.. be irrelevant to the question of a large nation like Iran being capable of developing a workable nuclear weapon????????

Yupp.. you must have been joking. but somehow I don't really feel like laughing. because I get the feeling that you are at least somewhat serious!

http://listverse.com/2013/07/09/resend-10-modern-child-prodigies/

Taylor Ramon Wilson is the youngest person in the world to build a working fusor: a device designed to create nuclear fusion. He built a bomb at age 10 and the fusor at age 14. In May 2011, he won the Intel International Science and Engineering Fair for his radiation detector.In February 2013, he spoke at the TED 2013 conference about his ideas on self-contained underground nuclear fission reactors. He designed a compact nuclear reactor that he said would generate 50 megawatts of power and would need to be refueled only once every 30 years.
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I can certainly see why the Wikipedia article does NOT go into detail regarding the bomb that he built when he was only ten! Doing so might cause many Americans to worry that perhaps.. George W. Bush may actually have been one of America's greatest Presidents.. within fifty years we may receive declassified information that strongly indicates that President Bush's initiative into Iraq. may well have saved the lives of millions of Americans??????!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Wilson
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DennisTate · Jun 9, 2015

For the record…. I admit that President George W. Bush was indeed too close with Big Business…… this is a metaphorical "fly in the ointment" but…………… I personally have read too much material over the years that indicates that his decision to invade Iraq, may well have been worth it……. because I do believe that President Saddam Hussein was obviously attempting to obtain nuclear weapons……. and Saddam might well have been willing to use them on Israel.

For one thing……. Russia got ahead of the USA in at least one area. Amazingly small dirty nuclear weapons not a whole lot larger than a softball.

When the Soviet Union collapses, Russian scientists and officials were desperate for American dollars and Saddam had billions.

The testimonies of several Iraqi nuclear physicists indicate that Saddam wanted a nuclear weapon or two or three……..

…. the situation at the time of America's invasion of Iraq was such that it probably seemed like too great of a risk to allow Saddam the freedom to keep on trying his best to develop or purchase a nuclear weapon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khidir_Hamza

Khidir Hamza is an Iraqi scientist who worked for Saddam Hussein's nuclear programme in the 1980s and early 1990s. Following the Gulf War, he left Iraq in 1994 and went into exile in the United States. He provided testimony to Western intelligence agencies suggesting that Hussein's weapons of mass destruction programmes were active and ongoing. However, since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, most, if not all of his information on the Nuclear Weapons program have been widely discredited, and former UNSCOM inspectors insist that he was never part of the Nuclear Program at all.

Education[
Dr. Hamza first came to the United States in the 1960s, attending the Massachusetts Institute of Technology after being recommended by Abdul Jabbar Abdullah, a prominent Iraqi scientist and an alumnus of MIT himself. He later attended Florida State University, obtaining a degree in nuclear physics. He intended to stay permanently in America, but following the 1968 coup, Khidir heard about how families of relatives living in overseas were arrested and reportedly tortured. Fearing for his parents and threats from Mossad and the PLO for turning down an offer to develop nuclear bombs for the PLO (the person who applied him for the job was allegedly assassinated by the Mossad in 1978 in Paris), he applied for his return.

Iraqi Nuclear Program[
Upon his return to Iraq in 1970, he began work on nuclear research and nuclear weaponry. He has claimed that he had persuaded Saddam Hussein into starting a nuclear weapons program, brought Iraq in the IAEA, was in charge of the purchase, construction, and operation of the Osirak reactor and the surrounding Baghdad Nuclear Research Facility (better known by its Iraqi name, Al Tuwaithia), by 1981, was in charge of Iraq's nuclear weapons programme (succeeding Hussain al-Shahristani). By the Gulf War he claimed he was able to complete work a stable bomb capable of being used on Israel, although it was too large to fit on a missile (he claimed it was 4 feet in diameter, about the size of Fat Man), and it never had the nuclear core.
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However, since the 2003 invasion of Iraq, most, if not all of his information on the Nuclear Weapons program have been widely discredited, and former UNSCOM inspectors insist that he was never part of the Nuclear Program at all
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I would love to be wrong….. but my own personal opinion is that high level American officials…… feel that there is far less danger in the average American feeling that President Bush was wrong and incompetent…….. as opposed to let them KNOW….. .about how much danger they really had been in?!

DennisTate · Jun 9, 2015

There is also a real possibility that within fifty years.. we may find out that President George W. Bush acted rather wisely, under the circumstances, in terms of how best to combat climate change.

Sometimes doing NOTHING is one of the best responses to a complex problem?????

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=410094&p=1065082960#post1065082960
Jeb Bush: It's 'Intellectual Arrogance' To Agree With Scientists About Humans Driving Climate Change
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DennisTate said: ↑

The subject of climate change is far more complicated than I thought that it was back in 2008 when I focused on it in my campaign for the office of municipal councillor.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...m-harper-deliberately-use-global-dimming.html
Did President G. W. Bush and P. M. Harper deliberately use Global Dimming to..
.... mask... to decrease..... to hide.......to postpone......... a general Global Warming trend?

A second legitimate question is..... within fifty years is it at all possible that we may find out that they may perhaps have had a basically good idea in doing this?

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=351581

In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....

I personally loved the film "An Inconvenient Truth." I have watched it four or five times at least. It played a huge role in my deciding to join a political party that takes climate change very seriously.

Largely due to his film I actually put in two submissions for The Virgin Earth Challenge.

I do have one criticism for his film though..... the diplomacy quotient was extremely low and America is more divided than ever partly because of the flavor of his film.
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NARRATOR: Burning fuel doesn't just produce the invisible greenhouse gases which cause global warming. It also produces visible pollution, tiny airborne particles of soot and other pollutants. These produce the haze which shrouds our cities. So Ramanathan wondered: Could this pollution be causing Global Dimming? The Maldives were the perfect place to find out. The Maldives seem unpolluted, but in fact the northern islands sit in a stream of dirty air descending from India. Only the southern tip of the long island chain enjoys clean air coming all the way from Antarctica. So by comparing the northern islands with the southern ones, Ramanathan and his colleagues would be able to see exactly what difference the pollution made to the atmosphere and the sunlight. Project INDOEX, as it was called, was a huge multinational effort. For four years every possible technique was used to sample and monitor the atmosphere over the Maldives. INDOEX cost twenty-five million dollars, but it produced results - and they surprised everyone.

PROF VEERABHADRAN RAMANATHAN: The stunning part of the experiment was this pollutant layer which was three kilometre thick, cut down the sunlight reaching the ocean by more than 10%.

NARRATOR: A 10% fall in sunlight meant that particle pollution was having a far bigger effect than anyone had thought possible.

PROF VEERABHADRAN RAMANATHAN: Our models led us to believe the human impact on the dimming was close to half to one per cent. So what we discovered was tenfold.

NARRATOR: INDOEX showed that the pollution particles were blocking some sunlight themselves; but far more significant was what they were doing to the clouds. They were turning them into giant mirrors. Clouds are made of droplets of water. These only form when water vapour in the atmosphere starts to condense on the surface of naturally occurring airborne particles, typically pollen or sea salt. As they grow, the water droplets eventually become so heavy they fall as rain. But Ramanathan found that polluted air contained far more particles than the unpolluted air, particles of ash, soot and sulphur dioxide.

PROF VEERABHADRAN RAMANATHAN: We saw ten times more particles in the polluted air mass north of the Maldives compared with what we saw south of the Maldives which was a pristine air mass.
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.Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... and is not confined to being a straight line...

In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue... because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map
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AMERICA IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM
After the major Earth Changes 1998-2012 AD
as foreseen in Mass Dreams of the Future
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DennisTate · Jun 9, 2015

Yup………… exactly what I figured as well!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youngcons.com/president-george-w-bush-wasnt-unintelligent-in-fact-he-was-brilliant/

President George W. Bush wasn’t unintelligent. In fact, he was brilliant…

Keith Hennessey, professor at Stanford Business School, wanted to set the record straight about President Bush’s intellect. He writes:

I teach a class at Stanford Business School titled “Financial Crises in the U.S. and Europe.” During one class session while explaining the events of September 2008, I kept referring to the efforts of the threesome of Hank Paulson, Ben Bernanke, and Tim Geithner, who were joined at the hip in dealing with firm-specific problems as they arose.

One of my students asked “How involved was President Bush with what was going on?” I smiled and responded, “What you really mean is, ‘Was President Bush smart enough to understand what was going on,’ right?”

The class went dead silent. Everyone knew that this was the true meaning of the question. Kudos to that student for asking the hard question and for framing it so politely. I had stripped away that decorum and exposed the raw nerve.

I looked hard at the 60 MBA students and said “President Bush is smarter than almost every one of you.”

More silence.

I could tell they were waiting for me to break the tension, laugh, and admit I was joking.

I did not. A few shifted in their seats, then I launched into a longer answer. While it was a while ago, here is an amalgam of that answer and others I have given in similar contexts.
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Thank you Hoosier8 for the link to this article!
http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...h-wasn-t-unintelligent-fact-he-brilliant.html
President George W. Bush wasn’t unintelligent. In fact, he was brilliant…

DennisTate · Jun 11, 2015

I just got back a brilliant post quotation from another discussion:

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=204870&p=1065089256#post1065089256
Video George W Bush : (16 words ) Iraq Has Nuclear Weapons From Africa!

TrackerSam said: ↑

When laying blame and pointing fingers, don't forget these people.

Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

http://www.davidstuff.com/political/wmdquotes.htm
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DennisTate · Jun 17, 2015

Well…. this is certainly interesting!

George W. Bush: Favorability Ratings

"We'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people -- or if you have never heard of them. George W. Bush, who was president from 2001 to 2009."
2011 & earlier: ". . . George W. Bush."

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Favorable 52%

Unfavorable 43%

No opinion 4%
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http://www.pollingreport.com/clinton1.htm

"We'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people -- or if you have never heard of them. Bill Clinton."
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Favorable 64%

Unfavorable 33%

No opinion 3%
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http://www.pollingreport.com/hrc.htm
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We'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people -- or if you have never heard of them. Hillary Clinton."
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Favorable 46%

Unfavorable 50%

No opinion 3%

Never heard of 0%
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DennisTate · Aug 17, 2015

President George W. Bush's team................... understood non-linear time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder they........................................ would not allow another time line in which both Iraq as well as Iran possessed nuclear as well as many other types of seriously high tech weaponry!

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=418381&page=12&p=1065287199#post1065287199
Could we Canadians STOP the Iran deal?

....(post # 114)......

AboveAlpha said: ↑

The DEAL SUCKS....but....in giving Iran what it wanted...after 16 to 24 month the United States will know whether or not Iran is honoring the agreement or not.

Forget all these A$$#@!E$ who keep posting that Iran has never and will never Enrich Uranium to Weapons Grade because people who say that are either complete SHILLS for the Iranian Religious Leaderships Nuclear Weapons Program or they are just people who ae CLUELESS IN THE EXTREME and never miss an oppertunity to get a ZINGER in on the United States.

There is absolutely no other possible reason for Iran to have secretly built and placed over 17,000 Uranium Enrichment Centrifuges in secret Underground Nuclear Facilities other than for one purpose.

That purpose is to secretly develop Weapons Grade Uranium using an old technologically archaic method of Uranium Enrichment as this technology is only used by Nations who seek Weapons Grade Uranium but do not have the Technology to develop Weapons Grade Uranium by any other mean than Centrifuge Enrichment.

A single Centrifuge can only produce a very tiny amount of weapons grade Uranium and that is why Iran had built over 17,000 of these Centrifuges and is why Iran tunneled out deep Underground Secret Nuclear Facilities to house these over 17,000 Centrifuges but unfortunately for the Grand Ayatollah's and Mullah's it would seem Iran's own scientists, engineers and physicists are doing everything they can to slow down the process as it seems they hope to delay as long as possible before the Iranian Islamic Religious Leadership can get their hands on any large numbers of Fission Bombs.

As I have posted that Cumputer Virus that penetrated Iran's secret underground Uraniaum enrichment centriguge facilities was able to falcify the computer diagnostic data coming from all Iranian Computer Mainframes as well as falcify the data coming from individual computer diagnostics of single Iranian Centifuges.

Thus as the centrifuges were running at an improper velocity this put back the Iranian Uranium Enrichment Program by a year or more.

After it was known that Iran knew their secret Underground Centrifuge Enrichment Facilities had been compromised and infected by a virus....the United States went PUBLIC and told the IAEA and U.N. that Iran had broken the NPT again by secretly building these Underground Enrichment Facilities.

The really strange thing is that any Iranian Scientist, Physicist or Engineer would have been well aware of the U.S. Militaries Deep Underground Radar Detection Capabilities as NASA has been using such Radar Systems from Interplanetary, Asteroid, Cometary and Earth and Non-Earth Lunar Survey's for MULTILE DECADES!!!

The ONLY grou that would not be keenly aware of such obvious U.S. Military Capabilities would be the Iranian Religious Ayatollah's and Mullah's and it would seem that Iran's BEST AND BRIGHTEST do NOT WANT THEIR RELIGIOUS LEADERSHIP TO GET AHOLD OF LARGE NUMBERS OF FISSION BOMBS!!!

Iran is capable of putting together one possibly two 5 to 7 Kiloton Nominal Yield Nuclear Fission Bombs and the difference of an extra 16 to 18 months by which time the United States will KNOW WITH 100% CERTAINTY IF IRAN IS HONORING THE AGREEMENT OR JUST BUYING MORE TIME TO BUILD MORE NUKES....well that difference of time will mean very little to the U.S. Military as a few cira 1945 U.S. Military Design Gun Barrel Fission Bomb's which weigh multiple ton's and can only be brought to target either by a driven truck or by placing them inside a Passenger Jetliner which due to the extreme capability of U.S. Radiation Detection we would KNOW Iran would be moving such weapons.

So.....the U.S. is fuly capable of seizing all Iranian Nuclear Facilities and capable of preventing any Passenger Airliner Suicide Runs.

But if the Iranian Service Branches do not STAND DOWN...as the Iranian Navy, Air Force and Regular Army are well aware any attempt to engage U.S. Military Forces for them would be SUICIDE.....well then it could turn into an Iranian Bloodbath.

They should STAND DOWN....but the Iranian Republican Guard will not so we will have to Obliterate the entire Republican Guard...unfortunate but necessary.

AboveAlpha
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DennisTate · Aug 17, 2015

Here is my reply to the brilliant analysis of the Iran deal by AboveAlpha........

DennisTate said: ↑

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I so thank you for this amazing explanation of what all is going on!!!!

In the past month I have read and reread chapter 5 of Dannion Brinkley's book, "Saved By The Light."

I had loaned my paperback version to somebody years ago and hadn't gotten it back but...... I really do like the GoogleBooks version of this as well.

As you know........ I am a firm believer that there is something to the anecdotal evidence for non-linear time and multiple time lines.

Chapter 5 of Dannion's book is a series of "prophecies" for the future........ but.......... they begin from 1975 when he had his near death experience. In the time line that Dannion saw during his near death experience....... both Iraq as well as Iran had developed both nuclear as well as other types of extremely dangerous weaponry.

The Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow study, on visions of the future as seen by people who are hypnotized and progressed into what they perceive as the future..... was done from 1980 to 1983.

Both the future events as well as the future events seen by hypnotized volunteers differs greatly from our time line but................ as you know............ it is possible according to high level theoretical physics that......... what they saw may well have occurred in another time line.

AboveAlpha...... chapter 5 of that book is well worth reading although it is clear that many of the serious disasters have been delayed and delayed and delayed in our time line.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/319103.Saved_by_the_Light

I could see America falling into enormous debt. This came to me as scenes of money going out of a room much faster than it was coming in. Through some kind of telepathy I was aware that this money represented the increase in the national debt and that it spelled danger down the road. I also saw people waiting in long lines for the basics of life like clothing and food."

.Many scenes of spiritual hunger came from the first two boxes as well. I saw people who were transparent in such a way as to reveal that they were hollow. This hollowness, it was explained to me telepathically, was caused by a loss of faith in America and what it stood for. The war in Southeast Asia had combined with inflation and distrust in our government to create a spiritual void. This void was added to by our loss of love for God.

This spiritual depravity resulted in a number of shocking visions: people rioting and looting because they wanted more material goods than they had, kids shooting other kids with high-powered rifles, criminals stealing cars, young men firing on other young men from the windows of cars. Scenes like these played out in front of me like scenes from a gangster movie.

Most of the criminals were children or adolescents that no one cared about. As I watched image after image, it became painfully clear to me that these kids had no family units, and as a result, they were acting like wolves.

I was confused because I couldnt figure out how American children could be left to roam and murder. Didnt they have parental guidance? I wondered. How could such a thing happen in our country?" (Dannion Brinkley, Saved By The Light, page 66,67)
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9/11 was an inside job · Aug 20, 2015

by just reading the title yeah because there have been so many brainwashed sheep in america that have been programmed by the CIA controlled media and our corrupt school system that mass murderer Reagan was one of the greatest presidents ever.Carter was the last president we have had one wasnt a war criminal which is why they have been programmed into believing he was the worst president ever.

Bush like Reagan,is a war criminal so yeah,it would not surprise me.

DennisTate · Aug 20, 2015

9/11 was an inside job said: ↑

by just reading the title yeah because there have been so many brainwashed sheep in america that have been programmed by the CIA controlled media and our corrupt school system that mass murderer Reagan was one of the greatest presidents ever.Carter was the last president we have had one wasnt a war criminal which is why they have been programmed into believing he was the worst president ever.

Bush like Reagan,is a war criminal so yeah,it would not surprise me.
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I thank you for responding into this topic 9/11 ............... President Carter impressed me as being sincere........ but I do think that he was terribly naive.

I began to study near death experience accounts back in 1990 and they have altered my view on just about every subject.

Here is some information on what was going on in fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth dimensional space time from a three time near death experiencer who got very good at controlling the out of the body experience.

Dr. P. M. H. AtwaterL...."Why do I call the disaster a wake-up call? Because of what I witnessed on Thursday morning, September 13th when in a state of prayer and meditation I returned to the inner planes with the intention of going to Ground Zero. I never quite made it there. The soul wave was in the way.

The day before I had been surprised to see the departed souls coming together and forming a soul wave the shape of a giant hand stretching upward, high into the sky. When I came back on Thursday, however, the soul wave was fully formed, with each soul totally conscious and possessed of knowing.

The formation shimmered from all the lights it held, soul light, the holy fire we bring in with us when we are born and take back when we die. And the sound the souls made in that wave, their tonal vibration as an oscillating energy force of strength and power, was one of the most beautiful sounds I have ever heard. It was music, the music of a great love, a love of those willing to die for the benefit of others. Their sacrifice touched me and permeated to the very core of my being.

Before I could think, the soul wave and I merged. What I witnessed, what I came to know while inside the wave transcended my childhood memories of World War II, and the constant replay of the terrorist attack spilling into my living room from television newscasts.

This is what the soul wave revealed to me.

Each person involved in the tragedy, regardless of who, victim or perpetrator, had agreed before birth to be part of this event – to be there at that location at that time as that person. They had not committed as souls to be killed or to kill, necessarily, but, rather, to be present and accounted for, to ensure that the energy needed for the emergency to occur and have the effect it did would be available. It was only as time neared that final decisions were made as to outcomes, that is, who would do what. It was their purpose as souls to create this great "wake-up call," one so horrendous that it would shake up the entire earthplane, affecting every government and every religion, every man, woman, and child, and the environment as well.

I came to understand that in a previously arranged "soul agreement" the people who died or were injured in the attack had offered to sacrifice themselves in order to make the statement that none of us can go on living the way we have in the past. It is time to awaken, to effect significant change throughout society. Our country, especially, has been protected by oceans, soft borders, and a legacy of people committed to creating a free and open society. The passion that birthed the United States became a worldwide beacon, grounded in law, tempered by a willingness to air our disagreements and learn from our mistakes. I have noticed, though, that our complacency comes from putting "things" ahead of service and long-term investments, and to such an extent that consumerism has replaced the importance of the family unit and the spirituality that supports worship and "worthship." (Dr. P. M. H. Atwater)
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http://www.near-death.com/science/experts/pmh-atwater.html

continued.......

Dr. P. M. H. Atwater:..."I have helped at many tragedies and led numerous prayer vigils, but never have I seen anything quite like this. I came to realize that it was the accumulation of prayer, the power unleashed by millions of caring people all intent on a singular mission of mercy and compassion, that had enabled the souls who were part of this drama, all of them, to make the transition from living in an earthly body to existing “elsewhere” faster than what is typical. The souls of the dead no longer needed emergency assistance, so I turned my attention to those still embodied who hurt or were injured to do what I could for them.

I say “elsewhere” because I am not certain what became of some who were involved, and here's why. The day before, while I hovered as a spirit at Ground Zero and witnessed the second plane hit and the aftermath, I had seen close up the faces of three of the terrorists in that plane, as well as a few images of what was going through their minds. One of them was in the cockpit of the plane, jaw locked, eyes firm and determined. He acted more like a robot than a human being and expressed no feelings. The two others were just outside the cockpit doorway.

The younger of the two was in a state of utter disbelief as fire leapt toward him. He died screaming, “They lied to me.” (I heard him in English although what he spoke sounded Arabic to me and with a different word phrasing.)

The third man expected to die, and was convinced that he would ascend into a beautiful paradise upon his death. He welcomed the fireball with open arms, until the “heaven” of his expected reward turned out to be a nightmare. He, too, had believed a lie.

Of the two, one had been deceived by men he trusted, the other by his faith. Both lost their bodies. Did they also lose their souls?" (Dr. P. M. H. Atwater)
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Now I can understand your skepticism of this type of information but..... I thank you for taking a look at this anyway.

For the record, I read a book about Ingo Swann who was also so good at controlling the out of the body experience that several psychologists studied his gifts using controlled conditions as best as they could come up with. The results were impressive to say the least.

LiveUninhibited · Aug 22, 2015

I think Bush will be remembered as idiotic for destabilizing the middle east and not speaking well, as well as a strong and likable leader during the 9/11 crisis. I think historians will continue to hate him, and regular people will continue to have a mixed view of him. But I live in California, so maybe that's just the people around me. I don't really think he's an idiot, but I do think invading Iraq was counterproductive and a good example of neoconservatism not working because of irreconcilable cultural differences.

DennisTate · Aug 23, 2015

LiveUninhibited said: ↑

I think Bush will be remembered as idiotic for destabilizing the middle east and not speaking well, as well as a strong and likable leader during the 9/11 crisis. I think historians will continue to hate him, and regular people will continue to have a mixed view of him. But I live in California, so maybe that's just the people around me. I don't really think he's an idiot, but I do think invading Iraq was counterproductive and a good example of neoconservatism not working because of irreconcilable cultural differences.
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If I remember correctly President George W. Bush is said to have had an IQ over 130, which is very good, but President William Clinton is said to have had an IQ over 170, which we would tend to think would make for a somewhat more capable President???!

http://www.westernjournalism.com/shocking-audio-proves-bill-clinton-failed-prevent-911-attacks/

As the adage proclaims, hindsight is 20/20; however, some actions — or failures to act — are later proven to have literally world-changing repercussions. One such case involves then-President Bill Clinton’s ability to take out the terrorist mastermind behind the deadliest attack in U.S. history.
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I strongly suspect that IF.......... Mr. George W. Bush had been President of the USA at the time that President Clinton had that opportunity to kill Osama Bin Laden, the 9-11 attack might not have occurred because President George W. Bush, in my opinion, may have had a somewhat instinctive better grasp of the truly big picture than President Clinton had????????

That is just a theory and I am often incorrect in my theorizings?!

Listen: The Day Before 9/11, Bill Clinton Described How He Could Have Stopped Bin Laden, But Didn’t

DennisTate · Aug 23, 2015

For the record............. I should admit that I am not one hundred percent altruistic in my dedication to political discussion forums.

Something that I have learned from P. M. Stephen Harper is that when you clearly choose a side.......... and take some risks...… and do something with chutzpah for that side that you have chosen....... you win yourself serious brownie points with certain groups of people.

I would be termed a blue liberal.............. and I find the Obama administration somewhat incomprehensible.

If....... a G.O. P. President is elected in 2016, Canada's Liberal Party will perhaps look around to see if any Liberal Party members have written or said anything.......... in general support of some leaders in the G. O. P. And voila.......shares in DennisTate Ltd, (that doesn't even legally exist yet).... could go up considerably under certain conditions........... I admit it.......... I kind of suspect that the time might come when my political ramblings could turn out to gain me a higher salary than I earn as a cleaner/ janitor?!?!

Hell........... in the event of a P. M. Justin Trudeau or a P. M. Stephen Harper minority government being elected in October 2015..... some of what I write could become more interesting to some influential people..?????????!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html

Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

I know that many of you pray or meditate so please

pray that P. M. Stephen Harper initiate a peace deal between Jordan and Israel?

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I am a member of a different Canadian political party but……… I have to admit that P. M. Stephen Harper is for good reason regarded as a rather "Davidic" figure by a high percentage of Israelis.

What he did for Israel back in 2011 at the G-8 was one of the most courageous and wise acts by a political leader that I have seen since I began to watch world events back in the '70's!

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...per-stands-alone-at-g8-summit/article4263322/

Alone among G8 leaders, the Canadian Prime Minister refuses to embrace the U.S. President's plan to begin peace negotiations between Palestinians and Israelis on the basis of a return to Israel's de facto borders as they existed before its 1967 war with neighbouring Arab countries - a precondition, accepted by Arabs and by many previous Israeli leaders and Canadian governments, that would be necessary to get Palestinians back to the table.

Mr. Harper made his opposition to that position clear through a spokesperson shortly after Mr. Obama's Middle East speech last week in a pre-G8 briefing, making him the lone leader in the G8 not to back the U.S. preconditions.

A unified statement on a negotiated path to a Palestinian state had been a key goal of the Deauville summit, in large part because such a statement might have pre-empted an attempt to pass a United Nations resolution that would declare a Palestinian state against Israel's will.
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On Israel, Harper stands alone at G8 summit - The Globe and Mail

Mr_Truth · Aug 26, 2015

Reagan's fascist pal:

Former Guatemala dictator granted 'special trial,' won't testify

Source: Reuters

World | Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:15am BST

Former Guatemala dictator granted 'special trial,' won't testify

GUATEMALA CITY

A Guatemalan court ruled on Tuesday that ex-dictator Efrain Rios Montt will be given a "special trial" next year on genocide charges in which the 89-year-old will not have to testify and will not be sent to prison if convicted, due to mental incapacity.

The ruling revives the hopes of those seeking a new sentence against Rios Montt two years after a historic conviction of the former strongman was thrown out on a technicality.

Guatemala's forensic authority declared in July that Rios Montt was mentally unfit to be tried again on the charges that he was responsible for the killings of nearly 2,000 indigenous Maya during a particularly brutal stretch of the country's 36-year civil war.

Rios Montt's opponents accuse him of implementing a scorched earth policy, and his earlier conviction had been hailed as a landmark for justice in the Central American nation. The conflict claimed as many as 250,000 lives.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/26/uk-guatemala-trial-murder-idUKKCN0QV02X20150826?rpc=401

two of a kind

DennisTate · Aug 27, 2015

Mr_Truth said: ↑

Reagan's fascist pal:

Former Guatemala dictator granted 'special trial,' won't testify

Source: Reuters

World | Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:15am BST

Former Guatemala dictator granted 'special trial,' won't testify

GUATEMALA CITY

A Guatemalan court ruled on Tuesday that ex-dictator Efrain Rios Montt will be given a "special trial" next year on genocide charges in which the 89-year-old will not have to testify and will not be sent to prison if convicted, due to mental incapacity.

The ruling revives the hopes of those seeking a new sentence against Rios Montt two years after a historic conviction of the former strongman was thrown out on a technicality.

Guatemala's forensic authority declared in July that Rios Montt was mentally unfit to be tried again on the charges that he was responsible for the killings of nearly 2,000 indigenous Maya during a particularly brutal stretch of the country's 36-year civil war.

Rios Montt's opponents accuse him of implementing a scorched earth policy, and his earlier conviction had been hailed as a landmark for justice in the Central American nation. The conflict claimed as many as 250,000 lives.

Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/26/uk-guatemala-trial-murder-idUKKCN0QV02X20150826?rpc=401

two of a kind
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But when we look at our own history........ our ability to feel superior tends to go out the window?!

https://www.facebook.com/notes/red-mans-view/how-lincolns-army-liberated-the-indians/515559085195891

DennisTate · Sep 19, 2015

At....the....12....minute....mark....in....this...video.....we......we....see.....where....President....Bush;s.....presidency.....goes...off......track....badly....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpawhsLTJ4Y
Prophecies that America will be split by a huge Earthquake when it betrays Israel

DennisTate · Sep 20, 2015

DennisTate said: ↑

At....the....12....minute....mark....in....this...video.....we......we....see.....where....President....Bush;s.....presidency.....goes...off......track....badly....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpawhsLTJ4Y
Prophecies that America will be split by a huge Earthquake when it betrays Israel
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For the record my space bar has gone bad on the keyboard to my Mac! Got to get a new one! (On our HP right now)!

DennisTate · Dec 25, 2015

This theory is already getting some verification...

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...m-harper-deliberately-use-global-dimming.html

Did President G. W. Bush and P. M. Harper deliberately use Global Dimming to..

.... mask... to decrease..... to hide.......to postpone......... a general Global Warming trend?

A second legitimate question is..... within fifty years is it at all possible that we may find out that they may perhaps have had a basically good idea in doing this?

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/12/22/nasa-recycling-the-1970s-ice-age-scare/

Gavin has a new paper out explaining the cause of the hiatus (which he also just erased.) He says that burning fossil fuels is generating aerosols which are suppressing global warming.
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jackson33 · Dec 25, 2015

DennisTate said: ↑

I didn't join Canada's Liberal party back in 2009 to make everybody happy.

On the official Liberal Party discussion forum I get the impression that many active Liberal Party writers think that I am some sort of Conservative Party plant?!

I'm not. I am basically happy with Canada's Liberal Party.. I am really glad that Liberal Leader Mr. Stephan Dion made it clear that the Liberal Party takes climate change very seriously.
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I'd vote NO, but on his domestic policy was near that of Clinton/Obama. Reagan would never done, "No child left behind", "Prescription Drugs", allowed continuation of unrestricted home loans or most certainly VETOED "TARP". Did not make your list. As for GWB foreign policy, he had little choice, with Congressional and advisor approval. While Reagan may have done the same, as their Foreign Policy actions were much the same.

In 50 years, if there is even any interest in GWB, may equal Bill Clinton, but both well above Obama....

DennisTate · Dec 26, 2015

jackson33 said: ↑

I'd vote NO, but on his domestic policy was near that of Clinton/Obama. Reagan would never done, "No child left behind", "Prescription Drugs", allowed continuation of unrestricted home loans or most certainly VETOED "TARP". Did not make your list. As for GWB foreign policy, he had little choice, with Congressional and advisor approval. While Reagan may have done the same, as their Foreign Policy actions were much the same.

In 50 years, if there is even any interest in GWB, may equal Bill Clinton, but both well above Obama....
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Yes..... I think you really got to the core of what is happening.

Both President Ronald Reagan as well as President George W. Bush will probably go down in history as being more popular and in line with the mood of the American people than President Obama has been.

I have to admit though that within fifty years it is also possible that information comes out that may indicate that the Obama Administration may be accomplishing more positive things behind the scenes than is being covered in the main stream media. For one thing.... President Obama's leadership team seems to be continuing to use Global Dimming to mask a general Global Warming trend......… and that may have been one of the better short term responses?!?!

He and his team still have a year in which to initiate something more practical such as.......

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html

The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!

Did you know that there is an Islamic prophecy that the Islamic desert regions would be turned green in the latter days?????

This topic is of special interest to me because I live about a hundred miles from the Bay of Fundy. I live five kms from the ocean on the eastern part of Nova Scotia. In my area the difference between low tide to high tide is about one meter! The land form of the Bay of Fundy has a funnelling effect on tidal waters and so parts of the Fundy have a difference of fifteen to seventeen meters between low to high tide!

...…

https://www.facebook.com/SaharaForestProject
Sahara Forest Project

Sahara Forest Project takes what we have a enough of to create what we need more of, using CO2, salt water, sunlight and arid areas, to produce energy, fresh water, vegetation and food.
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..............
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110

ISLAM IN SCIENCE/BIBLE/HISTORY:
Friday, 23 September 2005

Topic: 9: DESERTS GREEN/MANIFEST

Here is prophecy I personally thought some way to happen:

Book 005, Number 2208:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers.
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)

1.DESERTS GREEN? (Allah knows best)

If mankind is on earth during next ice age (signs from it already there, like Golf-stream slowing down 20% in last five years period, some scientist predict that Britain might have climate of Alaska in next 20 years), deserts of Arabs (Sahara+Middle-East) is going to be green, as they were during last ice age when black Africans inhabited even nowadays deserts of Libya. This has been mentioned in prophecy and hadith of prophet Mohammed (puh), as he said that "deserts of Arabs will once again be filled with rivers and gardens". Noticeably here is for example satellite pictures taken from Saudi-Arabian desert, In these pictures anyone can clearly see old river streams going under desert, and from there founded remains of gardens and agricultural activity. So Mohammed knew without proofs that during last ice age area was green, And so it will be during next ice age after change in climate and rainfalls. But this prophecy does not exclude possibility that humans themselves could make them green, as their actions would anyway be originated from Allah, and it could happen this way:
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DennisTate · Jan 17, 2016

9/11 was an inside job said: ↑

by just reading the title yeah because there have been so many brainwashed sheep in america that have been programmed by the CIA controlled media and our corrupt school system that mass murderer Reagan was one of the greatest presidents ever.Carter was the last president we have had one wasnt a war criminal which is why they have been programmed into believing he was the worst president ever.

Bush like Reagan,is a war criminal so yeah,it would not surprise me.
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I just got back an exceptionally insightful comment that sets the stage for the case that could be presented by people who will come to consider President Obama..... to be one of their all time favorite USA Presidents!

post #232.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ngs-can-you-say-about-president-obama-24.html

What positive things can you say about President Obama?
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ProgressivePower said: ↑

He kept the country from collapsing, the economy grew but slightly. I just feel like he didn't live up to the hype. In 2008 his whole campaign was about change, change, change and he gave us very small change. Everybody was excited and thrilled when Obama got elected Republicans and Democrats. He definitely was not a bad president by any means. There needs to be a change in the system. The special interests, donors, control Washington and their politicians on both the Democratic and Republican side. Even though they control a lot, Obama could've not went against his beliefs and pushed for what people wanted in 2008, the sole reason why he was elected.
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I do believe that ProgressivePower is onto something important here....... I had to basically agree with them on this point!

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DennisTate said: ↑

Frankly..... I think that you are correct!

I basically agree with how President Obama handled the debt crisis back in 2008 and 2009 and to a degree that most of us may not even know about until years if not decades in the future..... in 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and even 2015!

I do believe that you have gotten to the core of one of his ..... and his administration's ..........greatest achievements!!!!!
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DennisTate · Sep 2, 2017

Hey... this is a great thread to bump up considering my own political aspirations!

DennisTate · Sep 2, 2017

9/11 was an inside job said: ↑

by just reading the title yeah because there have been so many brainwashed sheep in america that have been programmed by the CIA controlled media and our corrupt school system that mass murderer Reagan was one of the greatest presidents ever.Carter was the last president we have had one wasnt a war criminal which is why they have been programmed into believing he was the worst president ever.

Bush like Reagan,is a war criminal so yeah,it would not surprise me.
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But man... he did a great job of balancing both Global Warming as well as Global Dimming.

Mr. Al Gore couldn't seem to handle the complexity of all that!

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...respond-brilliantly-to-global-warming.513530/

Mr_Truth · Sep 2, 2017

''Do you suspect. that within fifty years, President George W. Bush will be a hero?''

To right wingers they, along with traitors like Benedict Arnold and the confederates, already are.

NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON

DennisTate · Sep 4, 2017

Mr_Truth said: ↑

''Do you suspect. that within fifty years, President George W. Bush will be a hero?''

To right wingers they, along with traitors like Benedict Arnold and the confederates, already are.

NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON
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OK...... that is logical....... but I stand by my assertion that the deliberate, (if that is what it was), usage of the Global Dimming Effect to delay, postpone....... the general Global Warming Trend a decade or so...........
could have been a politically incorrect but perhaps BRILLIANT response to
the situation faced by President George W. Bush and P. M. Stephen Harper:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...respond-brilliantly-to-global-warming.513530/

Did President Bush respond brilliantly to Global Warming?

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