Pride Is Still a Sin and the Rainbow Still Belongs to God

You're in the closet?!? Just come out like other gay men! Your boy friend will approve!

 

This is starting to feel like it’s got nothing to do with rainbows and everything to do with you not liking the LGBTQ community. Want to talk about that?

Edit: I’d like to get an understanding of your position. Maybe we can go point by point. You believe gay is wrong, yes? Why is that?

 

He's a closet gay. He loves sucking big black .....

 

I can appreciate the light heartedness, but I try to avoid blaming homophobia on people being homosexual. Doesn’t sit right with me.

 

Symbols mean whatever an individual wants them to mean.

It can mean gay pride to some people, and it can be a promise from god to someone else.

There are enough rainbows to go around.

 

https://www.advocate.com/politician...turned-out-be-gay-or-bi#media-gallery-media-1

 

I acknowledge it’s a phenomenon that exists, but I just don’t like the idea of throwing it around as if it’s a negative to be gay.

 

It's negative to be homophobic, and especially when you're gay.

 

Okay, not trying to police your actions. Forget I said anything.

 

Read the thread.

No, you don't. Anyone with a sliver of sanity can see the Biblical story is pure evil.

 

Intentionally drowning an infant to death: right or wrong? Punishing someone for the sins of their parents: right or wrong? Slavery: right or wrong? Killing someone for blasphemy or apostacy: right or wrong?

 

They'd have us shut up while they lie, and hide morality and truth in the closet as if it were something of which to be ashamed, while they pridefully and shamelessly strut perversions. It is a reversal of reason. You may as well say that God is a sinner for counseling us to repent. And that salvation is in sinning. It is anti Christ in nature. Americans used to know and practice this basic fact, promoting that which is right, and discouraging that which is wrong. Now they are promoting that which is wrong and discouraging that which is right. To question that which is self evident, is the pivot of reason and the turning of the matter on its head. It isn't subjective versus objective. It is conscionable versus unconscionable. Otherwise we may as well question and doubt all standards of civilization. Crap is crap.

 

If your God drowned babies, or ordered slavery, or ordered infanticide, or ordered the execution of people for exercising basic religious freedom, then yes, your God is a sinner who needs to repent.

 

You know more of what is right than does God? Or are you saying he doesn't exist, and you are critiquing the character in a play?

 

According to the Bible, mankind knows right or wrong like God does. Hell, you already admitted that we can know right and wrong without religion.

I don't believe he exists. He, as a character, is one of the most evil characters ever written. If he exists, then he is one of the most evil beings in existence . . . scratch that, THE most evil.

 

Please describe how your attitude fits in with the attitude that Jesus modeled for his followers as he met those who, by the OT, sinned in some way.

And, let's at least recognize that sexual orientation is not a choice. As such, declaring people to be sinning simply because of their sexual orientation is sociopathic.

 

I thought the rainbow belonged to us, God gave it to as an apology for the drowning of everyone but a boat load of people

 

on the 8th day

 

Pride as it's used in this context is recognition of one's own dignity now this is different than the deadly sin of pride. Gay pride is I'm not going to be ashamed of myself. If you need that for your religion shop somewhere else the store is closed up. If you find that disrespectful to your religion move to Ethiopia this isn't a theocracy I don't have to respect your religious belief.

And if you want to use the rainbow to symbolize whatever you want you go ahead and do it. I don't know you respect I don't owe your religious symbols respect nobody does.

 

It's not that they use it to celebrate a fantasy it's that they don't use it. They don't use it because they don't want to explain no this doesn't mean we support gay people that makes their Church look bad. They would be acting in an exclusive way and Christ specifically told them not to.

They can use the rainbow to signify whatever they want they choose not to.

 

Jesus never said anything about it

in fact, when referring to the prostitute, he said those without sin throw the first stone

Jesus had no problem working with the prostitute, even though she was claimed to be sinning....

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 7:36-50

Jesus Anointed by a Sinful Woman

36 When one of the Pharisees invited Jesus to have dinner with him, he went to the Pharisee’s house and reclined at the table. 37 A woman in that town who lived a sinful life learned that Jesus was eating at the Pharisee’s house, so she came there with an alabaster jar of perfume. 38 As she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them.

39 When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would know who is touching him and what kind of woman she is—that she is a sinner.”

40 Jesus answered him, “Simon, I have something to tell you.”

Christians really need to read their bible more...... ironically, Jesus also mentions Simon not giving him a kiss...

Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. 46 You did not put oil on my head, but she has poured perfume on my feet. 47 Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—as her great love has shown. But whoever has been forgiven little loves little.”

moral of the story... don't be a simple Simon.... IE the Homophobes

 

I could not agree more.

 

I would say the Bible never said anything about it till the early 20th century when it was edited they did this because Sigmund Freud's work had opened quite a few doors into behavioral sciences it really created behavioral sciences and they wanted to get a drop on it before people thought they could live an alternative lifestyle. Christianity knows that it's weakness is in the transferring of generations. The values have to be passed down. That's the problem it's having now a lot of the values associated with Christianity are not good values. I'm not saying Christianity is bad just that corrupt people who are out for their own interests are making it look bad.

 

So why don't you fly a rainbow flag? I'm betting it's because people will think you're gay.

so reappropriate it or don't.

 

So why have you allowed it to represent gay pride?