Pro-Palestinian protesters shout ‘Allahu akbar’ outside of World Trade Center site

Pro-Palestinian protesters shout ‘Allahu akbar’ outside of World Trade Center site


Assuming they are muslims then shouting "god is great" is just a religious statement. If they aren't, then they are anti-semitic and anti-American.

 

I thought we were taking about Islam and genocide, this is the reason I showed you that the genocide Hamas committed on Oct 7 was not the only case of Muslims committed genocide.

And according to international law Israel not committing any genocide - Israel is fighting genocidal maniacs who keep arms, ammunition and entries to underground tunnels in civilian houses, who prevent civilian population to leave bombed areas and who refuse to release hostages in return for humanitarian aid for civilian population.

So why so many people call war in Gaza genocide?
Those are the same people who think that expelling some Arabs from homes is ethnics cleansing, but expelling ALL Jews from homes is historical justice.
Those are the same people who think that Palestinians have the right to murder, rape and kidnap Israeli civilians, but Israel has no right to defend.
Those are the same people who think that Black lives matter, Palestinian lives matter, but Jewish lives depends of context.

 

October 7 was NOT a case of genocide.

Israel's war on Gaza matches the definition of genocide.

Israel's systematic, government supported theft of the lands, water rights, homes of Palestinians living in Palestine and the denial of their right of representation absolutely IS ethnic cleansing.

The war in Gaza and West Bank are of Israel's making. That war has steadily continued for decades and attempts at negotiated settlement have been rejected by Israel - though such attempts have been considered pointless since the Bush administration.

 

Any person that believes in God should reject the notion that the term "God is great" should be associated with terrorism. Fanatics should not override a fundamental truth in religion.

 

There are VERY few terrorists in this world.

Maybe you should listen to mainstream Muslims, who do believe that the God of the Bible is great.

 

I don't understand your post.

 

Do you hold yourself to the same standard? If someone were to walk up to you and demand you condemn pro-Trump terrorists, would you immediately answer, or would you assume the question wasn't being asked in earnest and refuse to answer?

As others have pointed out, I'm sure, "Allahu akbar" just means God is great. It isn't a special terrorist phrase. If any of these people are actually supporting Hamas, I condemn it, but just saying God is great isn't going to cut it.

 

Is there a specific part you'd like clarified?

I don't want to rattle on.

 

This is nowhere NEAR a sufficient analysis.

Hamas exists as the armed resistance to the war Israel has waged for decades.

Their act of terrorism on Oct 7 is clearly not acceptable by our laws on war and humanitarian responsibility.

Gaza has had no way to reduce that war, as international attention has been thoroughly denied and they are nowhere near strong enough to form a resistance strong enough to stop Israel.

What would one EXPECT a human population to do given that there is a constant war being waged against them, without any interest on the part of Israel for there to be a resolution outside of extermination (as stated by various Israeli governmental ministers)??? And, I don't just mean October to present. This refusal on the part of Israel goes back decades.

 

Israel has a right to defend themselves in whatever way they wish. If you don't like it, maybe speak to their attackers and share your concerns with their stupidity.

If we had taken care of business in Desert Storm, maybe the 9/11 attack on the U.S. and the Global War on Terror doesn't happen.

 

Israel has a right to defend themselves in whatever way they wish. If you don't like it, maybe speak to their attackers and share your concerns with their stupidity.

If we had taken care of business in Desert Storm, maybe the 9/11 attack on the U.S. and the Global War on Terror doesn't happen.

 

Hamas has a right to defend palestinians also. Your logic is terribly circular and looks like you're merely acting as a salesman for more arms exports to the IDF

 

No, they do not.

Their choice to use genocide is absolutely illegal. Their genocide is supported by the US and Israel - that is ALL. And, the FACT that the USA supports genocide is something that will not be forgotten.

Your comment on 9/11 could not possibly be more poorly informed.

 

Let them try. Hell! is waiting for them. Hamas started this and now they will continue to suffer the consequences.

 

Illegal? Genocide? Not even the liberal media is reporting that.

I was wrong. The liberal media is 'claiming' that. Doesn't make it true.

 

Well I agree that there are very few terrorist in the world but I don't see the point of this comment:
"Maybe you should listen to mainstream Muslims, who do believe that the God of the Bible is great."

My whole point was God is great. It is a mistake to demonize that phrase.

 

If you think the Muslim God is great you should live with people whom agree with you (there are plenty of nations out there with this religion as the majority). America was founded as a Christian nation and should remain so. Islam is just as much an existential threat to the West as Progressivism.

Islam is incrementally taking over European countries some of which now have effective blasphemy laws (UK). Muslims ally themselves with progressives against indigenous people until the point is reached where Muslims outnumber them and establish Sharia law. Islam has never just left a country once they infiltrated, they have always needed to be expelled with violence. There is not a single exception to this in world history... not a single one.

 

The ICJ has members from all over the world, including Israel and the USA.

They point out that what is happening IS genocide.

Given that the US is behind the genocide, it's no wonder that the press in the US have laid off this issue, at least to some extent.

 

The USA was founded as a religiously plural nation.

There are millions of Americans who are Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, various versions of Christianity, or whatever.

This is a strength, NOT a threat.

 

Amen.

 

I've probably misunderstood your posts - I'll try to do better.

 

Hell is waiting for those white Jewish europeans that murdered their own ppl on Oct 7. Idf started this and now they will continue to suffer the consequences..

The Antisemitism betrays your post and it's circular logic is revealed. I've got no time for hateful and bigoted views.

 

It has been their (Muslims) terror chant since I can remember. You’re associating that term with other religions who has never used it as they blew themselves up in a public square or said it before flying planes into public buildings. Those words have never been spoken in English with Christian intent before senseless terror attacks. If there has then show me one.