Protesters Take Down and Deface US Flag, Raise Mexican Flag

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  1. Concord

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    I can't tell if you're making a silly word association joke or referring to a specific demographic/political change as "ataxia."

    EDIT: Either way, I think you missed my point.
     
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  2. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm a "valley boy" at least through most of my childhood. The Central Valley is the last stand for the GOP in California but turning blue fast like Orange county.

    I can look it up but can you explain a bit more about the "Cession"?
     
  3. Texas Republican

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    But they’re still scum.
     
  4. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you've had a few too many cervezas tonight.
     
  5. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The “average American” would be pissed if they saw these flags.
     
  6. Concord

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    Sorry, using local language in a global platform, silly me. I'm referring to the "Valley of the Sun," the Phoenix Metro Area.

    The states created out of the territories ceded by the Mexicans after the Mexican-American War. California, Nevada, most of Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, Texas, and a small part of Wyoming.

    These areas voted predominately Democrat in 2016.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "average American" is pissed to see the Confederate flag but that may not offend you.
     
  8. Texas Republican

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    No. To hell with Mexico and Mexicans.

    Why couldn’t we border Norway or New Zealand?
     
  9. Texas Republican

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    The Confederate flag flew 155 years ago. No one cares about it anymore.

    Mexicans are a pest. And they exist now.
     
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    You are not making sense, Texan :roll:
     
  11. Concord

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    You triggered snowflakes endanger our people.
     
  12. Texas Republican

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    I’m just saying it would be better if we had a border with Norway instead of Mexico.

    It’s just an abstract thought. I know it’s physically impossible.
     
  13. Texas Republican

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    The people who did that to the flags suck. They’re scum.
     
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    How about we spread them around Mexico instead?
     
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    We need automatic gun turrets at the border with motion detectors.
     
  16. Concord

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    No, they're protesting an evil State currently oppressing people like them. I like them.

    I'd rather deport you.
     
  17. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're making Republicans wince. Too many 'Lone Stars' perhaps.
     
  18. Texas Republican

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    “Oppressing” is a joke. They don’t belong here. This isn’t their country.

    Let’s get a giant catapult and watch them fly across the border.
     
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    Sorry to tell you this brother, but you're wrong. You and I, we live in what will soon become an offshoot of Mexican culture, some kind of American-Mexican fusion. The land you and I stand now is their country, it's just a matter of time.

    But here's the truth: American conservatives have a real opportunity here. Latinos, like blacks, vote Democratic mostly because Republicans obviously use racist rhetoric to advance their politics. The truth is that American latinos here in the Southwest, particularly in Arizona and Texas, have some deeply conservative tendencies. Now, I don't like conservative politics, but I'm a more nuanced thinker than most Lefty-Boys (or, indeed, mostly people in general,) and I see the land where you and I sit becoming a bitter warzone between rival subcultures, and I desperately don't want my homeland to become the kind of bloody nightmare so many parts of the world do. I would happily see non-Latino and Latino conservatives creating a political coalition of it means forestalling the kind of bitterness that I fear we're going to see.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly right. George W Bush warned Republicans of the cost of racism. Karl Rove also speaks out about the damage anti-Latino rhetoric will cause the GOP. Catholics tend to be conservative yet the bishops are strongly opposed to Trump. Foolish people, these Republicans. It is resulting in an image of white supremacism that turns off many Americans. I am the product of Anglo & Latino heritage. The melding of cultures is quite apparent in California and why Republicans are impotent here.
     
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    As with all political issues, people like me (and probably you) face a dilemma. Would we rather see the strengthening of reactionary political forces, or a contested borderland divvied up by bloodshed?

    I have a particularly strong aversion to the latter scenario, but must admit that my relative carelessness towards the former might be borne of privilege.

    Not that I think it matters. I'm afraid that my subculture will not be able to restrain it's most vile tendencies. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope I can have some part in preventing that outcome.
     
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    The Mexicans are doing for California what they did for Mexico. There is no well managed Latino country, and only Chile and Costa Rica come close.

    Of course they're going to vote for Democrats and the Dems know it.. They vote for Leftists throughout Latin America and the results are always the same.
     
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    I'm just curious how the enlarged works?
     
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  25. Concord

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    Sure. Now I want to start by sharing the fact that I'm much more comfortable with ambiguity than most folks are, bear that in mind.

    Population growth in the United States is happening disproportionately in Southwestern states, through both above average birth rates and immigration rates. This growth is disproportionately taking place in latino communities. This is where it's important to bear ambiguity in mind: I think this represents something new in American geopolitics. For a very long time we have been dominated by two predominant cultural groups: The American Southeast and American Northeast. Through both pure demographic growth and a change in that demographic composition the Southwest is becoming a third powerful cultural group, largely defined by a presence of latino, particularly northern Mexican, culture.

    I think this has huge implications for the future of our State and the fate of the peoples therein.
     
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