Putin Accuses United States of Damaging World Order

You need to look at the whole picture. Russia has the right to protect their borders from the "slight of hand" hegemons in Washington"Since the disintegration of the Soviet Union, NATO has aggressively expanded eastward, especially in the past two decades. In 1999, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland joined the alliance.

This was followed by the biggest expansion in NATO’s history; in 2004, seven new Eastern Europe member states joined the alliance – Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia. The enlargement was topped off with a final advance in 2009, as Albania and Croatia joined the ranks.

Gorbachev repeatedly expressed outrage with US politicians and the broken promise.

As the alliance continued to expand to include Baltic States and Eastern European countries, so did distrust and tension.

"A powerful military bloc appearing near our borders will be perceived in Russia as a direct threat to the security of our country," Russian President Vladimir Putin said during a 2008 press conference after talks with NATO had broken down."

 

And in his article he states that Russia invaded Ukraine. Do you or do you not agree it do you only agree with the parts that talk bad about the west? It's a simple question.

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Are you unable to understand the question?

 

I believe we should engage the East in an industrial automation race instead of any arms race.

 

Russia has every right to defend and protect their internationally recognized borders.

they have no right to expand them by force and intimidation, which is exactly what they are doing.

its not our fault that most of eastern Europe hates/fears Russia due to their Soviet past, and feels the safest thing to do is join the NATO blanket of protection.

 

Unfortunately common sense is against this argument. The oppressed seldom run to the oppressor for safety.

 

exactly!!!

so why would you expect Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Hungary, Slovakia, to want to have anything to do with Russia?

its no surprise that as soon as they could, they ran west to NATO to get protection from the Russians.

 

Who said I expect Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Hungary, Slovakia, to want to have anything to do with Russia? Russia doesn't want them. You seem to be confused about the subject here. Its about Ukraine and the 700,000 refugees now in Russia.

 

Russia doesn't want them?

they sure are having a temper tantrum about them running to NATO's protection.

what did Russia expect?

it would be insane for former slaves to want to stay under the protective wing of their former slave masters.

 

You forget the Treaty of Brussels. I don't really call this a tantrum though. He actually is outright laughing in this reporters face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ

Go look at a map of NATO in 1990 and a map now and tell me who is the expansionists.

 

NATO is a blanket of military protection from outside threats.

considering that Russia invaded Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and Ukraine....its no surprise that these nations and their neighbors want NOTHING to do with Russia and want to be protected from Russia, by France, Britain, the USA, and Germany.

45 years of Russian rule was enough.

 

You do realize we are talking about Russia and not the USSR right? NATO is a US puppet military, that is why 75% of its budget comes from the US and why all US tech has replaced control solely to the wishes of the oligarchs. They cant make a move without the US pushing the buttons behind the curtain. Has nothing to do with their safety as proven by Washington's willingness to put them on the front line of WWIII to further their expansionism.

 

yeah, tell that to Russia











Russia seems to have missed the memo.

 

Many Russians and Russian leaders want it to be a CRIME, to attack Soviet actions during WW2.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/02/16/russia-history-world-war-ii-law/5511369/

its like Germany making it a crime to attack Nazi actions.

 

That is exactly right, independent thinker. Who are we to accuse him of any wrong as if we have never invaded countries? The U.S. is not faultless or blameless. You have to look at it from Putin's perspective, and then you might get it. But they auto pilot look at him as if he is some big enemy. without even considering why he might be doing such an action. It is completely immature and infantile thinking.

 

I think the war mongers in Washington will make an enemy of anyone that threatens their hegemony. In their twisted minds, they want Russia and Europe to go to war, so they can buy up the spoils afterwards like they did the Soviet Union when it collapsed. Putin pulled Russia out of it then, and he's pulling Russia out of it now as well by turning towards China.

 

and yet RUSSIA invaded Ukraine, because Ukraine wants to join The West and leave Russia in the dust.

 

Everyone has a right to honor who they wish, I mean Ukraine is honoring Bandera and he committed genocide on the Poles and Jews. Also the Palestinians honor Arafat who was a terrorist, and unless I'm mistaken Shamir and Begin were terrorists as well and Israel honors them.

Of course it is bad when a nation adopts a policy of honoring them which Russia has not done, even though Stalin did pull them through WWII. What I can't understand is why so much hatred for Stalin, certainly Lenin did a lot worse, especially to the Russian people...unless of course you consider them untermenshen and worthy of suffering and death.

 

the Russians honor the Soviets and Stalin.

Stalin committed genocide against the Poles, helped the Nazis commit genocide against Poland's Jews, ethnic cleansing agains lots of other peoples, invaded 6 nations, etc..

 

Uhhh! Is there a broken record here.

 

stop trolling.

 

This sums up the Putin Dictatorship.

A bunch of Female Artists/Musicians go and protest in a Religious Institution against Putin.

Now what they did was wrong but sending a bunch of young girls to jail for as long as Putin did because he cannot handle any dissent...shows us what Putin's Russia is all about.

PU$$Y RIOT!!!!

AboveAlpha

 

You have to understand that it is not NATO that is being agressive here.

It is the former Soviet Satellite States that see an opportunity to FINALLY distance themselves from Russia and they all HATE RUSSIA'S GUT'S!

The quick rate and almost desperate desire for these nations to join NATO even took us by surprise.

The manner in which Russian's took what they wanted from these Nations and shipped it off to Moscow during the Cold War as these former Soviet States had Russian's stealing their food and natural resourses and giving back NOTHING.

Russia created it's own problem here.

Besides....NATO and the United States have absolutely ZERO INTEREST in invading Russia.

Why would we do something that would just gain us territory we have no desire to have?

And by the way....if we wanted to do it...we could.

And with our new FEL...Free Electron Laser Systems.....Non-Nuclear EMP's....Stealth Tech...Drone Tech....Mechanized Army and Marine Divisions that would cut through Russian Forces like a hot knife through butter and our Unrivaled Navy.....there is little that Russia could do about an all out NATO and United States Military Invasion.

But again.....there is ZERO% CHANCE we would ever do this...as there is no gain for us or the world.

AboveAlpha

 

And sending jets to bomb nations all over the world shows what Washington is all about. No comparison!

 

hey, you're American so you share the blaim.

 

As I've said before, it's not necessary to have any sympathy for Putin's chauvinistic oligarchic authoritarianism to recognise that NATO and the EU, not Russia, sparked this crisis. Moreover, as the excuse for a talking shop in Wales a few weeks ago illustrates, it's the Western powers who resisted the prospect of a negotiated settlement to the crisis for fear of appearing weak. The only settlement worth it's salt is one predicated on justice which includes federal autonomy, equal rights for minorities and military neutrality as a minimum – in other words, no NATO. So it's NATO that is the impediment to reconciliation and peace and that's the way the West want it. With the scale of bloodshed and the centre of political gravity in Kiev shifting to the right as Ukraine's economy implodes, only its western sponsors can make an agreement stick. So why didn't they press for it in Wales? NATO likes to see itself as the international community. In reality it's an interventionist and expansionist military club of rich-world states and their satellites used to enforce western strategic and economic interests. As Ukraine shows, far from keeping the peace, Nato is a threat to it.