Rape victim denied abortion, forcibly hydrated and made to carry Fetus to viability.

well yes, abortion should be legal, but seeing as it is illegal in Ireland, this woman should not be given a special stance, I mean where is the movement there to change the law, where are the protesters etc??

 

I believe he may think that the woman is a slut for not having died rather than "allowing" herself to be raped. At least a lot of my Catholic acquaintances believe that and make no secret of the attitude. Women, to many Catholics, are viewed about the same as they are in the "Malleus Maleficarum"

Ireland is a good example of what might happen in the US if we ever allow the religious nuts to take over. It is a backward hellhole, worse than most muslim countries because it hides its religious oppression with the trappings of modernity

 

Any woman who is also a Catholic, is an idiot - that's my take

 

What's wrong with that?? She's drinking for two isn't she?

You think rape makes it less of a person?

 

Crap like this makes me so glad the writers of the U.S. Constitution had the foresight to separate church and state.

 

Oh yes, it's all just about religion.

 

It was never a person.

You think being raped makes a woman less of a person?

 

Yes I do.

 

Luckily in the UK your views do not prevail and it is unlikely they ever will again.

UK law decides what is and is not permissible with abortion, a decision arrived at using the best scientific knowledge, then discussed by some of the finest legal minds. That is the way it should be. In Ireland the decision is influenced by a foreign religion ruled by sexually deviant priests, thankfully the UK has risen above that sort of scum.

 

Ok enlighten me what is this disgusting anti-abortion movement about if not religion?

 

So you think governments should compel women to give birth which would give them the power to prevent women from giving birth....lose one right, lose another right.

If the FETUS (there is NO baby involved in abortion) is a "separate person" then it has no right to use another's body or to cause harm to another's body. The person it harms, the pregnant woman, has every right to defend herself from that harm up to and including killing the attacker.

But it isn't a human , it is a fetus and women have the right to kill it..... if you think a fetus under 23 weeks is a person then and NOT a part of a woman's body then she should be able to have it removed .....and IF as you say it isn't part of her body it should be able to survive easily....

 

so lets science decide when a human life begins and not a belief
do you want science to make that determination?
I don't think you would like or agree with their decision

 

Try some science and biology and quit using incorrect terms to further your agenda of imprisoning women so they have to give birth.


There is NO child involved in an abortion and all your melodrama won't change that.

There COULD be a child involved if it was an 11 year old or 12 year old who was raped and impregnated...but you have no love for THOSE children at all....you would want them forced like animals to give birth, too.

 

No let critical thinking prevail and do not make the decision based on religion.

 

then lets base it on science and not a belief. will you agree to that? I don't think you would want science to determine when a human life begins but what other choice do we have if your against it being determined by a belief

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science and biology isn't on your side if you want science to be involved you would hate the determination

 

I stated religion should not be involved, you think the only way to reach a conclusion is by science or religion, how strange?

 

NOPE! Science say a fetus is a fetus NOT a child...I use real science not yours.

 

Personally I wouldn't have any problems with that at all . .after all it's not as if it would effect abortion very much, in fact it would add to the case for abortion to be legal at anytime for any reason and the state paying for it.

 

Only thing that isn't based on science is a belief religious or not

 

no it wouldn't if science determines that a fetus is a human being then if you allow anyone to kill that unborn human with out repercussions you then are creating two different class of humans one with basic human right and one without the same as we did with slaves over 150 years ago

 

fetus, child, adolescent, teenager all are just words to state a stage of a humans life but the underling premise is THEY ALL ARE HUMANS

 

If science, and the courts, determines it's A human being, A person then it does NOT get MORE rights than the woman in whom it resides. She has every right to defend herself from harm. The fetus becoming a "person" does not give it super rights over a woman. YOU want to make women the "slaves" of the fetus.

 

the right to life is the most sacred of all the other rights a right to life trumps all other rights you don't get to kill someone for a violation of other perceived rights

the women is a slave by choice. she chose to have sex there for she accepted the possible consequence of having sex

 

You won't get this because you don't understand biology or physiology or how a woman gets pregnant.

No, having sex does not mean she has to give birth, consent to sex is NOT consent to pregnancy and even if it was, consent can be withdrawn at any time.

If a person takes a risk mountain climbing and falls and injures themselves, they still have a right to medical care. You say they don't.

 

This reminds me of a famous quote:

"Whenever there is a conflict between human rights and property rights, human rights must prevail."
—Abraham Lincoln