Rape victim denied abortion, forcibly hydrated and made to carry Fetus to viability.

I believe the woman was physically still able to get around , so yet another false analogy from you.

Surely she could look up on the internet, ask around or look at a leaflet at least.

But more to the point - why should the laws of a sovereign nation be changed just to help an immigrant anyway?

 

sadly some are against that in rape kits here, so would assume the same is true there, every hospital should be REQUIRED to offer rape victims the morning after pill

 

OK Here is another analogy for you. I am assuming for the moment that you are a male, So if you got sexually and severely assaultedand were unable to fend off your attacker(s) but still managed to stumble around in a traumatised condition, because technically you would still be able to get around, does that mean no-one should assist you. Rape, by the way, is an extremely serious assault. Why not find out from a rape crisis centre just how serious and traumatising this can be.

 

Seriously? You expect after rape she is just going to be totally composed, getting on to the net and acting as normal. Just one of those things a woman should get used to eh?

Just another opportunity to have a go at immigrants. Clearly the law needs to be changed for all women.

 

I believe Munter does not differentiate between the act of rape which is usually a very bloody, violent and brutal assault and the gentle act of lovemaking

 

The woman had been in Ireland for several weeks already,after the rape -so your analogy is off

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Changed? in what way?

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now you're just making things up

 

No Munter, and I was not intending to be insulting, but I just don't think you understand the brutality of rape and the psychological damage it does, in some cases a permanent damage. Had this happened to someone close to you, God forbid, you might view it more sensitively.

 

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She made a desperate bid to receive the treatment she needed in England. She was arrested in birkenhead ferry port with 28 euro and 1 pound and returned to Ireland.

 

And quite rightly.

Yeah. How dare a healthy child have the right not to be killed. This is the 21st Century, for God's sake! Women should have the right to kill babies!

 

If you are comfortable with the government compelling a woman to continue to gestate a child against her will, your comfortable with that. I'm not.

I see it as a gross over reach. I do not think that government should seek to compel a women to continue to gestate against her will. I do not believe she should be criminialised for self inducing. When society can gestate society should but you place the whole of cost of that upon an individual against their will and that I think is wrong.

 

how was she going to get an abortion in England anyway then, ie: the NHS (of UK) is not free for tourists

 

I have no idea, I assume she was going to find a Marie Stopes or bpas and beg them to help her. Fees can be waived in certain cases.

 

Treatment? You make it sound as though she was ill.

 

She was suicidal at the prospect of having to carry her rapists child.

 

I'm comfortable with "the government" compelling a woman to continue to "gestate a child" against her will. That child is a child. A living, innocent, human being.

What I am UNcomfortable with is people like you seeing no problem in an innocent child being murdered for no good reason. In fact, it makes me fell uncomfortable. The killing of perfectly healthy children is an absolute barbaric and shocking activity which belongs in the Middle Ages and should have no role whatsoever in today's modern world.

That's a innocent baby that that woman is carrying. The only thing I have a problem with is sickos like you thinking women should be alloweed to freely choose whether or not they should kill a child. Aborting healthy children should be outlawed.

The abortion of an innocent, healthy child is a SICKENING activity and Britain should ban it permanently.

 

That's no excuse whatsoever to kill an innocent, healthy baby. It's not the baby's fault. She only has to carry it for nine months and then, when it's born, she can put it up for adoption and give it to a family who will care for it and love it.

The pro-abortion brigade, including you, don't seem to see unborn babies as human beings. You seem to see them as something inhuman which women should be able to kill whenever they feel like it.

 

That is whats happening all it took was untold psychological damage to the mother, a court order to forcibly hydrate her and a coerced c section. I wish women would choose to carry to term I think they should be supported in that choice but I do not believe it is the place of government to compel it.

I also see the woman as a human being, with distinct rights including the right to bodily autonomy. Government should restrict how pregnancy can be terminated past the point of viability but to prevent women from exercising control over her medical decisions over what her body is used for is wrong.

 

I think it SHOULD be the case of government to compel it. The killing of healthy innocent babies is an evil that needs to be banned in Britain.

That baby isn't a part of the woman and her body. It's a separate person altogether and is a completely innocent character in this affair. That baby should be fully nurtured in the mother's womb and allowed to be born.

 

Early delivery or medical abortion affects the woman's body not the child. If it were possible to transpose the child into another womb I am sure you would be first in line to assist it.

 

Yes it is her body and as such she has every right to remove anything from within her body that is not part of her .. just as you do.

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what a crock of crap.

 

she has the right to an abortion in a country that allows it, for sure - but Ireland does not, so why the heck is she complaining? let the Irish change their laws perhaps, or go elsewhere

 

It would be a lot better for all parties involved, including the future child, if she got the abortion at 8 weeks.

 

Funny, I just wish she was more successful at it, because it is better in this case if 'the unfortunate circumstance' plagued this country who's law was circumvented, than this rape victim.

 

does that post even make sense??

 

Does a any other Irish person have the right to remove anything from their body that is not theirs .. if so why should a woman be treated any differently from the rest of the population. Where is the equality in allowing that to happen?

Irish abortion (or lack of) laws are based in religion and religion should have no place in making laws or ruling a country.