Rebuilding of Jerusalem Third Temple may be least expensive way to stabilize climate?

I know the good that these things can do under medical control, but they still have side effects. Look at the drug addicts and criminal drugs trade around the world.

My thought was that if Yah created these things you would think he would have made them safe.

 

I am running into powerful evidence from many angles that the human spirit or soul survives physical death and continues to learn and grow and experience and grow in empathy and compassion..... for eternity.... after we die...... It is actually kind of astonishing how much influence/power/ capability we will be given..... after this short life is over!!!!

If we will use the amazing abilities that we were given...... we could fairly easily make them safe ourselves.


http://www.near-death.com/experiences/judaism02.html

 

"Constantine simply brought together books that were in use and formed one volume"?

Actually, he and previous emperors raided homes of believers and confiscated their texts. Then he gave all the texts to a group of anonymous men to make a book, bind it in leather, and deliver it to him. Those men, Simonists, paid for their position, they were men of means.
Constantine was unhappy and felt the book wasn't "empire friendly", and had it edited, then re-edited, then sent to Alexandria for more editing.
That city called Alexandria, built along the shores of Egypt, was destroyed a few years later when it fell into the sea.
Simony was practiced from day one when the church in rome was founded by Simon Magus, posing as Peter.
Peter never went to rome willingly, when he was old, he was taken there and executed. So was Paul. they were both disgusted by Magus.

The thing you got to remember, is if the powers that be want to eliminate any trace of your existence, it is easy for them to do.

When the bible was first produced, the vaaaaaast majority of people couldn't read, so it was easy to sell believers any line of crap you wanted to sell, like absolution from sin. That was the whole idea of the cross, you couldn't pay a dollar for telling a lie to be forgiven.

The roman church has hidden texts from the first 3 centuries of the believers in Palestine, and they think they can keep the contents secret to use like a trap. In fact, their is some verses in the bible about signs that will follow believers , like drinking poison, handling serpents, casting out demons and such, but those things aren't even in the earliest writings that the church has made available - they were edited in - and to their credit were acknowledged that as true.

As bad as the hiding and elimination of texts is, they eventually went to far by taking the NAME OF YAH OUT OF OT SCRIPTURES 7000 TIMES, AND THEY TOOK OUT THE NAME OF YAHUSHUA 1000 TIMES.

THAT IS THE STRATEGY OF SATAN: TAKE THE NAME OF YAH AND YAHUSHUA FROM YOUR LIPS, THEN ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL IT IS TAKEN FROM YOUR HEART AND MIND.

SATAN HATES THE NAME OF YAH. THATS HOW I KNOW THAT PAT ROBERTSON IS A SATAN.

YAHUSHUA SAID "THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL COME IN MY NAME", AND "I HAVE COME TO YOU IN MY FATHERS NAME AND YOU REJECT ME".
AND "BECAUSE YOU HAVE KEPT MY NAME - YAHUSHUA- AND MY TESTIMONY - YAH IS SALVATION - YOU WILL INHERIT THE CROWN OF LIFE.

JESUS SATANS DON'T KEEP HIS NAME OR HIS TESTIMONY, AND PRETEND TO HAVE HOLY SPIRIT POWER - FALSE ANOINTED ONES.

IF THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL COME IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WHY WOULD HE STOP THERE, WHY NOT COME IN THE NAME OF FRED.

 

The rich man wanted to warn his own about hell, he was told "no", because even if one should come back from the dead, you still would not believe.
Now the NDE people want us to believe that people come back from the dead, after scripture says it is against God's policy.

A shameful example of this is the guy who wrote a book about his kids near death experience. Surely that dude is going to burn for divination, soothe saying, and all that wickedness. They always justify their blasphemy by giving jesus credit, glory - I.E. BLAME.

 

I've smoked pot for almost 50 years. While most don't like pot because they say they get paranoid, I'm convinced that the paranoia is from nosy people and cops trying to use it to destroy your life.
For me, pot is a great stress and anxiety reliever. The only time I get paranoid is when an old lady walks by with a cell phone as I'm enjoying a joint in my car while I'm waiting for the wife to come out from shopping.
Pot tends to make one happier, and that's the rub. NO HAPPINESS ALLOWED.

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We go from glory to glory. Eventually even heaven and earth will pass away, then we go on to greater glory.

 

That is exactly right!!!!

We Christians are far too paranoid regarding any form of happiness!!!???

We fear the Creator.... and other church members far too much!!!!!

http://www.heaven.net.nz/visions/the-hordes-of-hell-are-marching.htm

 

I agree with this..... near death experiencer Christian Andreason compared this event to something like a higher level Big Bang.. that will take creation up to a whole new level!!!!!????

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

 

So you smoke pot and drive. Very thoughtful of you. It's proved that smoking pot impairs your driving abillty. Congratulations. There are less dangerous ways of relieving stress and anxiety. Still it's your life. At least it explains your previous posts.

 

Well, experience has taught me that if you hypocrites can't get something on me, marijuana is your cheap shot of last resort.

Pot doesn't impair my driving ability, but I'm sure that a first time smoker, or rookie smoker would be slightly impaired, but most folks like that just don't drive until they get it together.

They say marijuana is a gateway drug too. But most young people that I talk to who use manmade drugs like crack, meth, cocaine and heroin, say that they use those drugs because you can (*)(*)(*)(*) clean in 72 hours, where marijuana stays in your system for a month. They like the fact that they can use on Friday night, and possibly (*)(*)(*)(*) clean on Monday if need be.

Instead of being so judgemental, why don't you take a rational look at it? Look at it from a POV that is very good, like God said. The effect of it on your mind is that it takes away the stress and anxiety, and replaces it with relaxation and calmness.
You get a feeling that they say is euphoria, or the high, but why do you object to people experiencing euphoria or happiness?

Its like my metal detector, whenever I go metal detecting, people call police and tell them that I'm digging up the ghost towns, old mining camps and city property. Why? For the same reason miserable people don't like pot smokers. They don't want me to find treasure if they don't find treasure. They don't want me happy if they can't be happy.

 

That isn't what science says, and I suggest you are not the best judge of that. It is not in man's nature to admit that which does not suit him.

You are never clean. What damage is done in the 72 hours is permanent. This may be minimal in each case but accumulative.

There are those who are mentally challenged or have mental problems who need help to experience happiness. Most people experience find their happiness in the ordinary things and experiences of life.

Science will tell you that euphoria is not a normal experience of life, though cases of extreme pleasure can produce a very short term experience. These experiences are normally induced by drugs which alters the brain function artificially.

Having seen the misery caused by drug users to themselves and those who love them, to those who are victims of them, yes I am against these illicit drugs and users. I am sad for those who are caught in the vicious spiral of drug taking and theft to supply money for obtaining drugs. I'm even more sad for the people who are devastated by theft of personal property and memories tied up in the property.

 

You seem to be such an expert on everything.
Somehow, you go from me saying that I've smoked pot for 50 years, to the misery and despair of drug addicts. I have no desire to experiment or mess with manmade drugs.
Last year 100,000 people were seriously injured in car accidents, and 1000 of those people were pot smokers. "So, 99,000 weren't pot smokers. So if you smoke pot and drive, your chances of getting in a wreck go down". Most people who get cancer aren't pot smokers, so if you smoke pot, your chances for cancer decrease. Almost all cancer patients drink milk, so if you don't want cancer, smoke pot and don't drink milk.

Studies show that 1 in 5 Americans have a mental illness. Most of them don't smoke pot. So, if you don't want mental illness, smoke pot.

Last year 100,000 people committed suicide. Only about 1000 smokes pot. So if you don't want to commit suicide, smoke pot.

Last year there were 50,000 murders, but only 5000 of the murderers were smoking pot. If you want the murder rate to decrease, smoke pot. All 50,000 murderers drank milk, so don't drink milk or you might murder someone.

I love this trevor logic.

 

I know nothing about US statistics, I take your word for it. I only know from first hand in the UK, not myself, the effects it can have and would always advise staying clear of these drugs. I can understand the problems many people have over there, but we have a free health service and provide alternative drugs for many problems.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...-smoked-dope-daily-month-BBC-documentary.html

We will have to disagree on this.

 

Thank you for reminding me of some of the teachings of my old mentor Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Garner Ted Armstrong. The trip down nostalgia lane was kind of fun.

What do you think of the statement from C. C. back on page 7 of this thread?

I am of the opinion that the Mahdi of Islamic prophecy could perhaps turn out to be none other than the final Elijah of Messianic Gentile/ Messianic Jewish and Jewish prophecy...... and the Jesus of Islam... could perhaps turn out to be the Cyrus type predicted in Isaiah 42 - 46.

Anyway.... do you think that true Moslems who are genuinely being guided by the Holy Spirit/Ruach ha Kodesh....... would be inclined to support the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Third Temple complex by Jews and for Jews... perhaps as early as 2030???!!!

C. C. "Muslims

C. C.'s full article can be viewed at post #67 on this page:

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=288721&page=7

 

I invented the statistics. The point being that people like to blame the pot for anything, much like blaming guns for killing people, when people kill people.
We have 535 congressmen and senators, and none admit to smoking pot. HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM?
Maybe we should have 535 pot smokers governing us, MAYBE YOU'D LIKE THEM.

 

I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT I DON'T GET TEACHINGS FROM ANY MAN. NEVER READ ANYTHING BY YOUR MENTORS.
I HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF PREACHING STUFF FROM THE DIVINCI CODES BECAUSE I MENTIONED MARY MAGDALENE.
I have heard of mr. Armstrong, and read the di vinci code, but neither have influenced me at all. Not in the least.

The OT teaches that YAH's anointed one would "bear our diseases, and see his offspring, and sit as a silversmith". So I believe Yahushua had chronic diseases, had at least one child that he saw born, and worked as a silversmith".

 

I believe that the 2 witnesses could be Eliyahu, the Prophet of YAH and Israel, and perhaps Cyrus, the Messiah of Israel.
The muslim Mahdi could be EliYahu. They certainly need a savior to save them from the jesus satans. EliYahu is going to be hated by jesus satans, and there could be trouble related to Christmas, since he will lay dead in the streets from Dec.22 winter solstice, to Dec. 26 [31/2 days], and people will exchange gifts while he lay dead. Then Yahushua, the Messiah of the whole world, will appear.
If it is EliYahu and Cyrus who come, it would certainly shut those Persians up about Israel. Of course, EliYahu and Cyrus wouldn't be too popular in Israel either, since they will both testify to Yahushua. Truth never is popular.
Zerrubbabel will have to build the Temple first, which should only take 3 days.

 

From what I read of US politics most are questionable anyway. While the country gets deeper and deeper in debt they can't agree on anything. Ah well, China might step in, or on, the US, like it is doing to other countries - even ours.

 

The Third Temple would be something. The second one was palatial. Would be a good place to store the "Arc of The Covenant".

 

The Cyrus Cylinder says

The beginning of the text is partly broken; the surviving content reprimands the character of the deposed Babylonian king Nabonidus. It lists his alleged crimes, charging him with the desecration of the temples of the gods and the imposition of forced labor upon the populace. According to the proclamation, as a result of these offenses, the god Marduk abandoned Babylon and sought a more righteous king. Marduk called forth Cyrus to enter Babylon and become its new ruler.[32]

In [Nabonidus's] mind, reverential fear of Marduk, king of the gods, came to an end. He did yet more evil to his city every day; … his [people ................…], he brought ruin on them all by a yoke without relief ... [Marduk] inspected and checked all the countries, seeking for the upright king of his choice. He took the hand of Cyrus, king of the city of Anshan, and called him by his name, proclaiming him aloud for the kingship over all of everything.[32]

Midway through the text, the writer switches to a first-person narrative in the voice of Cyrus, addressing the reader directly. A list of his titles is given (in a Mesopotamian rather than Persian style): "I am Cyrus, king of the world, great king, powerful king, king of Babylon, king of Sumer and Akkad, king of the four quarters [of the earth], son of Cambyses, great king, king of Anshan, descendent of Teispes, great king, king of Anshan, the perpetual seed of kingship, whose reign Bel [Marduk] and Nebo love, and with whose kingship, to their joy, they concern themselves."[32] He describes the pious deeds he performed after his conquest: he restored peace to Babylon and the other cities sacred to Marduk, freeing their inhabitants from their "yoke," and he "brought relief to their dilapidated housing (thus) putting an end to their (main) complaints."[33] He repaired the ruined temples in the cities he conquered, restored their cults, and returned their sacred images as well as their former inhabitants which Narbonidus had taken to Babylon.[33] Near the end of the inscription Cyrus highlights his restoration of Babylon's city wall, saying: "I saw within it an inscription of Ashurbanipal, a king who preceded me."[32] The remainder is missing but presumably describes Cyrus's rededication of the gateway mentioned.[34]

 

So what. Lets see, so far you don't like YAH's anointing Cyrus, and you have a problem with him creating marijuana. What else?

 

The point is that if you study ancient, and even more modern religions, most claim they are formed by their god, most take something from other religions and incorporate in their religion and most claim theirs is the right and only true religion. The Jews were no different.
If you study ancient religions, civilisations you can see this. Most of the Tanakh was written by scribes in the exile, or post exile period. It's natural for the Jews to claim their God chose Cyrus, while others, and Cyrus himself, claim it was Marduk. No doubt any other nation that was allowed by Cyrus to be free to worship their god, whoever that was, would claim it was their god called Cyrus.

I don't believe that either God or Marduk chose Cyrus. And I don't believe God 'created' marijuana. I believe in evolution. IF a creator being did/does exist I don't see his hand being involved in mankinds progress.


When I argue from the Bible it is only from what I understand the Bible is saying, from my studies. Not that I necessarily believe it.

 

My apologies if you already answered this question previously Trevor.... but what do you personally think of the idea of a superior culture to ours evolving on another planet...... or perhaps in a higher dimension of space time.... and those alien technologies playing a role in human evolution?

Richard Dawkins Ph. D. seems to take this idea seriously!

A related topic is:

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338698

Will UFO's assist in bringing peace to the world?????
I personally am now wide open to this possibility...... but I sure wasn't ready for the idea until I read this part of the NDE account of Christian Andreason:

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

 

I have read that a duplicate Arc of the Covenant may have been hidden in Ethiopia!!!???




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Wow!!!!!!!!!!! Excellent answer!!!!!!!!!!

Regarding your signature...... What do you think of the idea of the Creator of the universe having a sense of humor.... and allowing less than brilliant people to become leaders in industry, politics, the arts and bureaucracies all over the earth???!!!

Daniel 4:17
"This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men."

 

Superior or inferior creatures I am quite sure exist somewhere in the universe. What shape or form I have no idea. Culture is a purely human concept based on our what WE are.
Higher space/time creatures? Who knows. The idea has been around for millenia in the form of spirits, angels etc. We have no current way of detecting these, if they exist. Unless, of course, some people are more mentally developed to be able to detect some things than others.
If there is a superior creature who has been involved on earth IT hasn't made a very good job of it.