So what? It still isn't murder to abort a fetus. It is murder to kill a born person… No amount of nit picking and repeated irrelevant statements will change that
FoxHastings said: ↑ So what? It still isn't murder to abort a fetus. It is murder to kill a born person… Of course it is.
You just did post #505: chris155auWell-Known Member Joined: Jul 4, 2017 Messages: 15,877 Likes Received: 1,324 Trophy Points: 113 Gender: Male ↑ According to existing law, correct. """"""""
Yeah, this really shouldn't be difficult to follow. I said that abortion is murder, then you said that it's not murder according to existing law, then I agreed but then said that I'm not talking about existing law when I say that abortion is murder.
So you said what you didn't say ? So we're back to your opinion.... IF you have a POINT state it....otherwise I'm done with your circles...
"Zygote, Embryo and Fetus" are SCIENTIFIC terms! "Baby" is NOT! I can call it a baby at ANY point without violating science! And how many women do you know that went around talking about the "Zygote, Embryo or Fetus" inside them? When mothers feel their BABY kicking, do they refer to their FETUS or their BABY? Have you had kids? Perhaps you can speak from personal experience and if so, try to answer honestly.
What IS your point? As has been explained to you many , many times...what a fetus is called does not matter, it is still legal to kill it based on the FACT that it is NOT a legal person no matter what it is called. However, using scientific terms like ZEF, zygote, fetus, in a debate is more honest than referring to it as a "baby" which is purely for emotional manipulation.. BTW, NO one has to answer questions about their PERSONAL experience, it's none of your business and has no bearing on the abortion issue.
Unfortunately that is the case, yes. Then why don't mothers use those terms when referring to what is living and growing inside them?
FoxHastings said: ↑ What IS your point? As has been explained to you many , many times...what a fetus is called does not matter, it is still legal to kill it based on the FACT that it is NOT a legal person no matter what it is called. No, it's not unfortunate,,,it is fortunate that women retain the right to their own body. Because, for the thousandth time, they are free to call them anything they choose...they can call them "buns" as in having "a bun in the oven"....that does NOT mean they are BUNS. I can call my car, baby, but that does not mean it is a "baby". Many people call their spouses or partner, "baby", that doesn't mean they are "babies"....have you got it now ?????
Women would continue to retain the right to their body if abortion was banned. They could always chose to have an illegal one and they would not be charged with a crime, thus retaining the right to their body. LAUGHABLE! Women may talk about having 'a bun in the oven', but when they REFER to it as "MY...", it is NOT "my BUN!" It is "My BABY!" Yes, and it will never BE a born baby, unlike an unborn baby! Yes, because they are ADULTS! YOU GOT IT NOW!
If abortion is banned then that means women no longer have a right to their own body LEGALLY. Totally and completely illogical. We've been through this same stuff before. Here we go AGAIN with not understanding that illegal means it's against the law. If someone breaks the law, does an ILLEGAL act, then they are charged with a crime. Are there other crimes you don't think should be punished? Why are they made illegal if the criminal isn't going to be charged with a crime? Silly pointless babble. And fetuses shouldn't be called "babies" because they are FETUSES....got it now?
You are being inaccurate and manipulative. A mother can say she loves to kiss and hold her baby but she may be talking about a teenager. There is nothing wrong with her being inaccurate in casual speech but if she called her ''baby'' that in a debate on the rights of teenagers, say, she would be consciously inaccurate. That equals a lie.
