Religion of peace not so peaceful after all.

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obviously not.

    As we can all see, your proof of your completely madeup claims about mohammed's "reforming in his later years", is nowhere to be seen, as was accurately predicted.

    As I said; we expect nothing more.
     
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    evidently you can't see
     
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    An interesting love affair to be sure, considering how women and homosexuals are treated across the Muslim world.
     
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    by the time mo got to medina.....he was raving even more outlandishly that he had been at mecca

    http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/qurayza_jews.htm
     
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    at this time in history, they do have more religious nuts, but history goes back and forth on that one, and it always seem to happen during times of hardship, when they believe it's the non-believers making their god punish them, and thus believe if they torture and kill the non-believers god will reward them...

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    There. Now stop interrupting the grownups, or it's naptime!

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    Um...sorry, but your desperate attempt to equate TODAY with CENTURIES AGO, isn't working.

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    Exactly. Medina was the MELTDOWN....
     
  7. dujac

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    it's no love affair, sane people are just tired of all the ignorant lies

    [video=youtube;NtZWwgw__WY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtZWwgw__WY[/video]


    again with the projections
     
  8. FreshAir

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    I am just not as naive as you to believe that history will not repeat itself many times over when it comes to these two religions... of peace

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  9. Talon

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    No, he didn't - his military campaigns continued up until the time of his death in 632CE (which came 10 years after the Constitution of Medina was written).
     
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    This whole thread is a farce. This is Alex Jones and the FEMA concentration camps all over again except with Muslims having their terrorist camps in the US. It is unbelievable these people fall for this BS.
     
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    If Jesus wasn't referring to the sword, then why did he use the word? I think what Jesus said was rather plain and simple, he came not to bring peace but a sword. Had he said I came to bring a sword, I could see that the statement would be up for a more open interpretation, but he contrasted peace with a sword. In other words, he said I didn't come to bring one thing, but another. Swords are used in battle to kill, peace is the opposite of battle and killing. And just so you have the information handy the word used in the NT by Jesus was μάχαιρα or machaira which is a noun meaning Short sword or dagger used for stabbing, an instrument for exacting retribution. First used in the NT by Jesus in Mat. 26:47,51-52 and found in about 2 dozen other NT passages. Now please explain to me how this does NOT mean what I implied.
     
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    this will be him next time he comes to us according to the bible

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 19:11-16&version=KJV

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

    13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

    16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
     
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    Oh yes, Revelations, a book in the bible dedicated to the Christian holy war. Some Christians fail to understand how much they have in common with Islam.
     
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    My Muslim friends treat me with great respect. Generalization are usually wrong.
     
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    yep, they lead to one group thinking the other is less human and lead to the inhuman treatment of such groups, death camps and the like
     
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    Its about the sword of truth from the mouth of Jesus.
     
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    I think Jesus would be by Mohammad's side if you understood Jesus's life and who is associated with Did Jesus associate himself with the Saduccees, our equivalent to business and community leaders? No. Did he assocate himself with the Pharasees, our evagelissts and televangelists of our day? No. Juesus associated himself with the social outscasts, the sinners, the prostitutes, the condemened. Look at Jesus's apostles and his closest friends. Almost all of them came from either an area that were deemed social outcsts or they were sinners, like Mary Mageline.
     
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    Sorry it is not a duplicate thread. I put this up as a (post) on another thread but it really didn't belong there as it was off subject so I moved that post here as a thread. I know there are some out there that wish this syuff was not brought out, but I think it is important to know what is happening within the Muslim communities. To many people still look on them as a religion of peace and they are anything but. The FBI knows and they want to shut them up.

    Senators blast FBI's anti-Muslim manuals

    Lawmakers are going after the FBI after it was revealed this week that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had been instructing agents that the religion of Islam was on par with a cult and that devout Muslims are likely to turn to terrorism.

    http://rt.com/usa/fbi-muslim-lieberman-islam-775/
     
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    LOLOL.. Are you kidding? The FBI are not completely stupid.
     
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    He and the rest refuse to answer the question, take a guess why not, their solution to what they believe is a problem would violate the Constitution, the same Constitution they point to every day on discussion boards.
     
  21. Marine1

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    Very true. I think this will help explain it.


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    Jesus said, "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword" (Matthew 10:34). Occasionally Jesus would make a paradoxical statement so startling as to appear unbelievable. John Clark says that a paradox is truth standing on its head to get attention. This is one of those statements.

    Not Peace — Jesus said, "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth." But how can that be? The prophet of God called Him, "Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6). When the angel of the Lord announced his birth, the message was "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace good will toward men!" (Luke 2:14). In his great Sermon on the Mount, he said, "Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called the sons of God" (Matthew 5:9). Paul said "having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Romans 5:1). His message is "the gospel of peace" (Romans 10:15). The key to understanding this statement is in the phrase on earth. Jesus said, "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid" (John 14:27). Further He said, "These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world" (John 16:33). The explanation of the paradox is that whether or not Jesus came to bring peace depends on where you are looking for it. If your looking for peace with men of the world, forget it. If you are looking for peace with the God of heaven, you can have it.

    But A Sword — Both the statement here in Matthew and the two in John are in the middle of a discussion of the apostles’ mission in preaching the gospel. In fact, all of the passages that deal with our peace ultimately have to do with the favor we find with God by acceptance of His great word. The sword with which Jesus came is "the word of God" and it is with "the preparation of the gospel of peace" that our feet are shod (Ephesians 5:15, 17). Isaiah said, "He made My mouth like a sharp sword" (49:2). Hosea said, "I have slain them by the words of My mouth" (6:5). "The word of God is . . . sharper than any two-edged sword piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and joint and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart" (Hebrews 4:12). The religious world preaches peace at any price, stand for nothing, and let everyone feel good about their own faith. Some even in the Lord’s church are so afraid of division they will not stand up for the truth. However, the word of God is a sword and to those who will not accept it, there is no peace.
     
  22. Marine1

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    No, of course not. But how about those that see all this and still don't believe it and want to keep thinking Islam is no danger to us? It's Christianity.
     
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    I don't think Jesus would have condoned Muhammad's behavior, especially the violent behavior that flatly contradicted his own teachings.

    Furthermore, Muhammad was a religious, political and military leader - the sort of person that you just said Jesus would not associate with.
     
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    That is true. Also, they would probably, and I have heard some of them say, they would like to ban Islam. If we start banning religions, then their religion is on the chopping block also. They have to twist the constitution in knots in order to get what they really want, and that is a theocracy. The funny part of it would be, if they got their theocracy they would hate it as much as the rest of us because politicians would then begin to tell them what they must believe in.
     
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    Has the FBI also fallen for this BS Robert?


    Senators blast FBI's anti-Muslim manuals

    Lawmakers are going after the FBI after it was revealed this week that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had been instructing agents that the religion of Islam was on par with a cult and that devout Muslims are likely to turn to terrorism.

    http://rt.com/usa/fbi-muslim-lieberman-islam-775/
     

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