Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

I'm an atheist and find religion to be silly (some more than others). But some people need this nonsense.

 

Make it simple. God believers can't prove the Existance of God and Big Band believers can't prove what came befor the bang. You pick your beliefs based on your needs and your background. Someday all the unknowns may be revealed but till then tolerance might be a welcome change. Believers really don't hurt Athiests or the world and Athiests don't actually hurt Believers or the world. Grow up.

 

1. Something can't come from nothing.

2. Only an eternal entity can defy rule #1.

3. God is eternal.

4. God's eternity necessitates Him to be perfect.

5. God is the perfect creator, and can thus create something from nothing.

 

Camille Paglia weighs in on "Snark Atheism"

Question for Camille:

Answer:

Dang dude, that just kinda blew right up in your face.

Now she says that you are acting stupid.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/29/cam..._very_open_minded_but_that’s_simply_not_true/

She is right of course, it's time you started thinking about growing up.

 

Yes, they'd prefer to "speculate" it, rather than admitting that it makes no sense whatsoever.

It is not unknowable. It is the only logical alternative that atheists find extremely difficult to embrace.

 

It's not GOGs at all. How else can something come from nothing. But let me guess, "we don't know yet".

I believe in God, Creator of the everything.

 

I think you should mind your own business.

 

Says who? And who said something came from nothing?

Based on what?

Based on what? You would first need to prove its existence first before you can begin to prove it is eternal.

Looks like your God isn't eternal then, since your own holy book shows it is far from perfect.

circular logic. You need to first prove its existence before making such a claim.

 

"If" implies an unknown thus a horrible foundation to build an argument for or against religion upon.

 

But has failed to replicate the process.

 

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 3 16

 

Says who? Look up the definition of nothing. It's akin to saying knowledge can come from ignorance.

Based on the definition of "eternal."

Based on the fact that only an eternal entity can exist while nothing else does. The universe and everything else is proof of God's existence, because only He-an eternal entity-could have created it.

Religion is irrelevant here.

 

Whereas there are many Gods so there should be many universes.

 

This didn't address my question. Try again.

And how does this apply to an imaginary being you can't provide a shred of evidence for?

Based on what? Who says only an eternal entity can exist while nothing else does?

This is circular logic.

lol, religion isn't relevant to religious belief?

 

Sure but if reality is reality, why call it God?

Each of those words have their own description and one is not the other.

Do you want to chat on reality or on God?

Regards
DL

 

Silly is a good start but try to see the evils of religion and recognize that at this point in time, the last thing humanity needs are mainstream religions that promote homophobia, misogyny and intolerance.

As far as I am concerned, all atheists and intelligent people should be quite vocally militant against evil religions like Christianity and Islam. Neither know what justice is.

Regards
DL

 

I hope you were just adlibbing. Jihadists are just the latest batch of crap that religions have spawned.
Look again for the first time my friend at how religions do not hurt humanity. Please read the post just above and what follows.

For the evils of religion to grow, read any scripture literally.

Any and all harmless beliefs are allowed by Gnostic Christians. We know that any myth can be internalized for good results and as esoteric ecumenists, we enjoy knowledge of all the myths that man has created about Gods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR02ciandvg&feature=BFa&list=PLCBF574D

When there is a victim is when that view changes. Then you see why Christianity annihilated Gnostic Christianity. We do not let the evils of forced literalism go unopposed. To a tyrant like Constantine, we were poison. One of his first commands to his new Church was to kill off the free thinkers and of course, his new tool, his Church, did as bid. It was quite a ride for free thought for the next 1,000 years.

How can a Gnostic Christian, --- and any other free thinking moral person, --- not judge other's morals when seeing someone hurt other because of the same Church's teachings today?

Can you ignore such things if you have decent morals? Impossible. Especially with Islam pulling the same murderous, freedom stifling ****.

We must discriminate and judge constantly. Every law is a compulsion on all of us to judge.

It is my view that all right wing literalists and fundamentals hurt all of us who are moral religionists, --- as well as those who do not believe. Literalists hurt their parent religions --- and everyone else, be he a believer or not. Literalists and the right wing of religions make us all into laughing stocks. Their God of talking animals, genocidal floods and retribution has got to go. So must beliefs in fantasy, miracles and magic. These are all evil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2zhlDbMfDg

They also do much harm to their own fellow adherents.

African witches and Jesus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI

Jesus Camp 1of 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Death to Gays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE

For evil to grow my friend, all good people need do is nothing. Fight literalism when you can. It is your duty to our fellow man.

Regards
DL

 

You asked "says who?" Reading the definition of nothing will allow you to understand how something cannot come from nothing.

Because only an eternal being can creating something when there is nothing. And for an "imaginary" being, atheists sure are (negatively) obsessed with God.

Logic says. If something isn't eternal, explain to us how it can possibly appear out if nowhere.

This is an opinion.

We are talking about the existence of God, not religion. But I understand why atheists always want to bring religion into it.

 

I agree that some of the anti-religion crowd sometime miss some of the messages of the myths but they are still all myths. As a religionist, I often do not agree with what atheists and others say of what religion is saying but that does not take away from the fact that idol worshipers are hurting the world. I push the idea of seeking but those who become idol worshipers do too much damage to allow free reign.

So to you, those who use reason and logic are more immature than those who believe in talking animals and a genocidal son murdering God.

Care to debate why imaginary constructs and supernatural entities should be ignored?

Regards
DL

 

I know. You decided that idiotic belief was better than just saying, I don't know.

You decided to go into intellectual dissonance instead of just being honest.

All you have left is to continue spouting that nothing can come from nothing except for your God of the Gap.

God is a title and you are not even naming your God. Why not? Are you afraid we will recognize his poor morals? Or that he is the same old same old God that is a God of war?

Regards
DL

 

You must be a believer who likes that your creed is homophobic and misogynistic.

I will mind your business till all of your ilk are history.

Religions are supposed to be about morality but you and many others have sold your pathetic souls to Satan.

Regards
DL

 

Oh, of course, the standard atheist response: "we don't know."

Well, let me know when you figure out how something can come from nothing. Anything to keep you busy from accepting the existence of God.

 

To believe in leftist nonsense, like gay marriage (special rights for gays) is much worse than to believe in God.

 

Perhaps but it shows those who believe otherwise have a chance to argue against someone willing to give them half a break.

If I said religions are definitely fairy tales, it would be shutting down debate more.

So are you going to debate against the proposition or just (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about the delivery and ignore the issue?

Regards
DL

 

Yeppir, the world has a population approximating 7 billion, and according to the 'Bible', all of them are 'gods'. "Is it not written in your law, that I have said 'ye are gods'". So, from that approximate 7 billion lesser gods, none have been able to create any universes.