Republicans blocking coronavirus bill that limits how much drugmakers can charge for vaccine: report

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://www.salon.com/2020/03/03/re...makers-can-charge-for-vaccine-report_partner/

    Put pressure on your Republican Senator to ensure that vaccines are affordable. The profit margin for pharmaceutical companies should not matter when it comes to this pandemic.
     
  2. Rush_is_Right

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    Well hell! Put pressure on them to make it FREE! Right? Damn evil Pharma!
     
  3. MrTLegal

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    You are free to make that argument. I will not join on that crusade.
     
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    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

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    Do you have anything to support this claim?
     
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We want a vaccine and a cure super quick!

    We want it on the cheap!!

    The left just ain’t too swift...
     
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    Fail. Again.

    Your consistent if nothing else.
     
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    Yes, I do. But this is pretty common knowledge, although I'm not surprised that you don't know how this whole system works.

    "Trump’s original spending proposal for fiscal year 2019, released last month, included major cuts to not just to the NIH, but the National Science Foundation as well. It is those two publicly funded entities — not Big Pharma — that support the bulk of the country’s basic research into diseases and pathways to new treatments.

    That’s why the cuts were especially unwelcome in the executive suites of drug and biotech companies. Their business models depend on Washington subsidizing expensive, high-risk basic research, mostly through the vast laboratory network funded by the NIH."

    https://other98.com/taxpayers-fund-pharma-research-development/

    You are paying for a drug twice. First to develop it, and second to actually take it.
     
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    Post the bill.
     
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    Republican’s fear controlling cost will stall private investment. That’s not a good look and sure doesn’t say much for the market’s character.

    The goal is to test as many as quickly as possible and we can’t throw a financial impediment into the mix.

    Geez most of the country can’t afford a $400 surprise expense. These buffoons need to start dealing with reality. These tests and later vaccine need to be priced in the wheel house of all Americans.

    NeoLiberals. This has got to be the end of their road!
     
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    Oh I do understand.

    Typical lefty thinking everything is free so just do it! You want "free" because you think it's owed to you...it's not.
     
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    Put those researching pharmaceutical scientists on minimum wage and it will be cheap, if it ever comes.
     
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    I wonder if all the do good liberals on her ask for pay reductions at work?

    The hypocrisy is thicker than banana pudding with them...

    I do like a good banana pudding though..... :)
     
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    First. what a load of crap! Second, there were no reductions of funding.
     
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    If you go to the "about me" and "our team" is on that website, makes for some very intersteing reading. It screams progressive hit job to me
     
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    What's interesting to me is I didn't have to go to that website to know that. And I didn't.
     
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    If a drug is never developed, and those frills cost money, then you can never get a prescription for it.

    But if you could get them pharmaceutical scientists to work for $5 an hour with no time-and-a-half and still develop the drug, that would be Nirvana.

    Maybe work them at gunpoint and hold their families hostage in the Rotunda.
     
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    Care to provide data for your claim that the taxpayer pays for nearly all drug R&D? I am not going to spend an inordinate amount of time researching your claim as the onus is on people making claims to provide supporting data. However, a quick Google search provided the document linked to at the bottom of this post which shows in 2015 industry provided 64.7 percent of drug R&D funding and government grants provided 22.6 percent. Other funding was provided by foundations, universities, etc.

    Sure you aren't getting spun up by a claim from one of your left wing "think" tanks or a recent Dem talking point sent out by one of left's puppet masters so as to exploit to Corona virus for political gain?" But go ahead and post your data. You made the claim. Now please provide the data. My guess is you don't have a clue what the big drug companies you malign spend for R&D.

    https://www.researchamerica.org/sites/default/files/2016US_Invest_R&D_report.pdf
     
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    I think I will wait for more information to come out rather than take the word of a blatantly partisan article such as the one you presented. This is an article about an article. Why did you now present the original article by Politico? Was it not partisan enough? Is Pelosi planning on attaching the FISA reform bill to this one? If so do you agree that the Coronavirus funding should be a clean bill without any attachments or do you think that Pelosi is justified in mucking the issue up with attachments that have nothing to do with the original bill?

    From the original article in Politico:

    "Top Democrats say the House is still expected to vote on the package Wednesday, with the Senate likely to follow suit as soon as Thursday. But the timeline for unveiling that legislation has slipped, possibly as late as Wednesday morning, amid policy fights between the two parties."

    What is being held up and for how long? It doesn't look like anything is being held up for any more than a couple of hours in just the House and will still make it to the Senate by the next day which makes the whole time issue moot..
     
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    The issue is the bureaucracy has set up a cartel in the industry, like most others.

    For this both parties deserve blame.
     
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    I oppose any form of price control. If I decide to get vaccinated for COVID-19, I'll bill it to Anthem.
     
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    It seems I find myself yet again having to correct your misleading contributions to this forum. The truth is at the last minute Dems tacked on HR3 (Elijah Cummings’ Lower Drug Costs Now Act) to the COVID-19 funding measure. HR3 is controversial and thus will require much consideration. Why can we not just have a quick clean funding bill? And why does media have to lie about what transpired?

    But you're right about one thing: profit margins shouldn't matter for this virus because they never should have come up in the first place. So how about you put pressure on your Democratic Senators to ensure that a clean funding bill passes?
     
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    EC, kinda of a scumbaggy thing to do. Take advantage of this issue to push your own agenda.
     
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    Republicans blocking coronavirus bill that limits how much drugmakers can charge for vaccine:

    Drug makers already have a vaccine? A compatible headline would read:

    Democrats blocking stadium bill that limits how much the Cleveland Browns can charge for Super Bowl tickets.
     

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