Republicans fear they will win ObamaCare court battle-

Maybe the R's can pass the Herytage Foundation plan, similar to what Romney got passed in Ma. Oh, wait.

 

If the Supreme Court strikes down the federal subsidies that are a foundation of nationalized RomneyCare, and Congressional Republicans (17% approval/73% disapproval ) refuse to restore to millions of Americans the assistance that makes it possible for them to afford health insurance, 26 of the 34 states likely to be hardest hit have Republican governors.

Fanatical ideologues with employer-administered plans that are heavily subsidized by the taxpayer will cheer as if it's another Romney Landslide!, but 22 of the 24 GOP senators up for re-election next year are from those same 34 states.

November, 2016 would then be retribution time.


It may well move America forward to the inclusive, far more cost-efficient approaches of advanced nations, despite the power of the insurance cartel's political lobby that perpetuates their cash cow.

 

you do unserstand there are not, and will likely never be enough jobs to go around. Also, the fact that most of the new jobs being created in america are payed at or below poverty line, even those who ARE working wont be able to afford it.

What would you tell those people who are in dire need of medical care and cant afford it?

Oh wait. I know.

Tough luck to them? Hope you dont die?

 

So they aren't allowed to work things out with any D's or I's to get something passed? It has to be all R's or nothing?

 

Tell that to the thousands of dead Americans in Iraq after Bush lied his pants off about WMD's in Iraq.

 

And instead of answering I get another Godwin.

 

I actually do know quite a bit about Hitler, if I do say so myself. I've studied him literally for decades. But, in truth, nearly everything I know about Obama comes from observing him since about the onset of the Great Recession in 2007. Unfortunately, beginning with his birth, there's just not a hell of a lot of reliable, independently verifiable information available about Obama.

There was actually a moment or two during that first campaign during 2008, when Obama bested Hillary, that I thought he just might really shake up Wall Street and all those rotten bastard investment bankers who brought so much of this calamity on us. I thought he might take dramatic action to completely change our grossly unfair U. S. Tax Code, and slay a few other "sacred cows", MAKING the rich pay a true fair-share since the Tax Code was begun.

HA! He left the running of the economy entirely up to the Federal Reserve combine, even selecting his Treasury Secretary from among their murky ranks -- Tim Geithner -- the former New York Federal Reserve Governor! No, Fed Chairman overlord, Ben Bernanke, dictated economic policy, and in that capacity, Obama was nothing but his handpuppet. BUT, he ran everything else!

Sound familiar? In the early 1930's, that's what Franz von Papen and the rich German industrialists and other "noblemen" did. They played the role of being a "shadow government" in charge of the German economy behind Hitler, while Hitler ran everything else! Today, Bernanke, and now Janet Yellen (Bernanke clone-without-a-beard) run the economy, and Obama runs everything else. Congress? Reichstag? What the hell do people as qualified as Obama and Hitler need with groups like those? Would you like for me to recommend, say, about ten good books on Nazi Germany and Hitler, for your own enlightenment...?

 

Oh, no! This is almost as futile as arguing with Dujac! I'd rather eat ground glass!

 

If you don't know what socialism means just say so

 

Nah, the very day the SC votes against ObamaCare will be the day Republicans forfeit 2016.

 

Where in hell did you get THAT information? I don't know anybody who wasn't pissed that their premiums were going up 8% per year while their coverage was being cut. EVERYBODY knew there had to be changes. "Fine with their HC" my white arse.

 

And if you don't know what autocracy is, please feel welcome to ask for help. Amazing! Once you get away hurling all your "birther" castigations, you're really a fish out of water, aren't you...?

"Hey, boys -- NOW do I remind you of Obama...?!"

 

Do you know whats missing from this entire thread?

Any notion from a Republican that we think government is responsible for our health care.

Progs run around foaming at the mouth demanding a "solution" to a problem that only exists in the minds of victimized liberal voters.

When CommunistCare is defeated we expect our leaders to move on to correcting the next Obama mistake, not trying to "fix" something that aint' broken.

 

Right...because democrats are SO eager to make deals with regards to Obama Care?

The law was passed 100% along party lines.

 

By the way, we are seeing Obama trying to get his Pan Pacific free trade passed exactly as he did with Obama Care...none of the people who vote for it have read the legislation and there has been a news blackout of what is in the bill.

You have to admire "transparency" like that.

In this instance however, the fight has not been so partisan and it's Paul Ryan and House republican quislings that keep this sham alive and many democrats have abandoned Obama and the oligarchy that props him up.

 

I am sure it will not come as a surprise, but I completely disagree with your analysis. The DNC wrote the bill, and it was passed without GOP support. So, the DNC bears the full responsibility for the wording. They intentionally made the subsidies only available to residents of states that created their own exchanges. The fact that more then half the states chose to have the federal government include them in the federal exchange, does not change the wording of the law. To make matters worse, the DNC has known from the beginning that the wording of the law was a problem, but they refused to address the issue. Instead of sitting down with the GOP, and drafting an amendment to the bill that would correct the problem. Of course, it would mean the DNC would have to make some compromises, but that is actually how the processes are supposed to work anyway. But instead of addressing the issue, they have chosen to rely on emotional pleas, and senseless rhetoric.

The fact is the GOP said that the Affordable Care Act was a poorly worded unworkable pile of crap. Now, that people are finding out that it is a poorly worded unworkable pile of crap, the DNC wants to blame the GOP because they said it was a poorly worded unworkable pile of crap. And Liberals wonder why we call them the loony left.

 

The hyperliberal Left has paved its path since the days of Frankie Roosevelt during the real Depression by offering people something for nothing, or, with the case of "subsidies", very little. Apart from this "bread wagon" handout methodology, what have Socialists got to offer anyone, anywhere...? And you can point out that health care is not mentioned anywhere in the U. S. Constitution, so, they erroneously say that it says the government will provide "welfare" -- never understanding for a moment what that meant when the Constitution was written. Then, they elect and re-elect a president who regularly ignores and disregards what IS actually written in the Constitution, and there you have Obama -- a "benevolent autocratic dictator" who rules over us with a "pen and phone".

Yes, and yet these panicky, irresponsible morons are drumming up a fiction that somehow it's a Republican fault. Ha! Obamacare SHOULD have been thrown out by the SCOTUS in 2011 when the whole "mandate" idiocy fell apart. Chief "Justice" Roberts re-wrote the damn thing so that it magically became a tax instead, and that, too, was just as illegal as it could be. But, to blame Republicans -- none of whom voted for this piece of (*)(*)(*)(*), is the height of treachery and dishonesty! So typical of today's American Socialist....

 

Why would they have to pass a socialist bill? No one is forcing them to do so.

 

I didn't think so

 

As a practical matter, Congressional Republicans, already loathed by Americans, would be confronted with the stark question, "How do we prevent the all those folks who are now covered via the ACA having their medical expenses once again routinely dumped on the taxpayer?"

For all their bellywhinging, they have never come up with a viable GOP plan (other than RomneyCare.)

They appear to support the huge annual subsidy for the privileged covered under employer-administered plans. How might they avoid disenfranchising the millions who are not thusly favoured by government?

Again, if they refuse to restore to millions of Americans the assistance that makes it possible for them to afford health insurance, 26 of the 34 states likely to be hardest hit have Republican governors, and 24 GOP senators up for re-election in 2016 are from those same 34 states.

It's easy for hyper-partisan ideologues to bray their airy-fairy boilerplate, but reality differs from the realm of radio entertainment.

Pragmatism pertains.

 

"Routinely dumped on the taxpayer?"
Where do you think all this money for all these people under Obama Care now is coming from? Kelp beds on the surface of the moon?

Obama paid lip service to his ACA solving the problem of "free riders" but as a matter of fact Obama Care does nothing to change the circumstance by which one person's medical problems becomes someone else's responsibility. It's the same old horse crap in a brand new sack. http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/23/obamacare-creates-a-new-class-of-free-riders/

It's interesting how the potential failure of Obama Care (fingers crossed) becomes the problem of the people
who didn't swallow the snake oil and did not vote for it one single time!

And disingenuous warnings about what the republicans better not do ring hollow and should fall on deaf ears
considering the people who have benefitted from this horrid law are far outnumbered by the people who suffered in some way already at the hands of Obama Care.

People sure do love free stuff. The people that have to pay for someone else's free stuff? Not so much.

First of all before your campaign of threats, warnings and dire predictions get under way let's see what the Supreme Court says.
I will hand it to the left that, no matter how horrible their plans are, they all fall in line and stick to a single course of action unlike the usual republicans that let the media (the propaganda wing of the democrat party) frighten them into abandoning most any plan and caving in at the first sign of trouble.

If your enemy hands you a gift, by stupidly miswriting their own byzantine law so it cannot be administered,
the right is not required to bail out the Obama-ites and save them from their own idiocy no matter what they say.

 

The point isn't whether Republicans lie, but the lies of the sleazy prick in office now.

How easy it is to forget the entire health scare plan was based on "you can keep your plan".

Please pay attention...in your hatred of all things not Obama, no one ever said Republicans don't lie, but rather on health care they told the truth, Obama and the scum in the Democratic party lies their faces off.....Obama told people "you can keep your plan over 400 times.....knowing it was a lie.

I know you cannot show me even one lie told by the Republicans, let alone 400 of them by one (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

I followed the debate in congress, unlike most Americans, and everything the Republicans predicted was accurate.

Nothing your pathetic (*)(*)(*)(*) birds said was true.

So when you use the word "lie"....look in the mirror.

 

Obamacare...

99 weeks of welfare/unemployment, buy outs for big labor, "amnesty".....


How about you list any program that isn't out of the populist/socialist handbook.

Please look up "progressive socialist" his picture is the deginition

 

Sorry, that isn't a definition of socialism or policy examples fitting the definition.

Please try again.

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excuse me, but you're going to need to prove the bolded portion.

 

The reality is that the United States has the absolute worst medical plan in the universe.

I do not mean any disrespect, but me and my neighbors are laughing at you.

Wake up, it is garbage....worse than what came before, more expensive, and with less coverage. It has divided the nation because of the war like manner in which Obama fought Republicans instead of terrorists.

There is no one in thew US who can compare to what I have and you now pay more taxes than I do.

Anyone who hates America is praying it stays.