Right wing disinformation mill in full swing

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rifle. Plain and simple. Assault rifle has a definition and you don't even know that.
     
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    See Dc v Heller. They explain what prefatory and operative clauses are. You're focusing on a prefatory clause, and thinking it alters the operative clause. That's an hilarious mistake in grammar you've made.

    Well regulated: In addition to being part of the prefatory clause which doesn't alter the operative clause, well regulated is a term in common use at the time of the Founding meaning IN WORKING ORDER. For instance: A well regulated BOWEL. I don't pass laws on it, or beat it with a hose, its just in functioning order.

    For a militia that means able to present when called, immediately, bearing your own arms and gear. Arms sufficient for common military equipment being in private hands accomplishes this goal beautifully.

    These are things you grabbers overlook every time, and it makes it difficult to have a discussion with you if you won't learn how things work.
     
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    The same Thomas Jefferson that owned hundreds of slaves...Until the day he died...That guy
     
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    Sure they did. See their many writings on the subject.
     
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    Tell that to the families of victims about your rights to a weapon of war
     
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    Goal Post Move. What one does when one is losing an argument.
     
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    Non sense......
     
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    LOL, no military uses these rifles.
     
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    Not only that, but they seem to be proud of it.

    Week after week, the same people post the same idiotic nonsense from trashy blogs that no one outside the right wing fever swamp ever heard of.
    Stuff that is bat s$%t crazy most of the time, and all too often, totally false.

    Yet the audience never fact checks the baloney they post, and when called out, try and defend it.

    Others just parrot what they just saw on Fox or heard on their AM radio.

    They don’t seem to know anything else, and they loudly defend the trash they parrot as factual and denigrate all the media that the media they get their noise from tells them to denigrate.
     
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    Jefferson was a very flawed individual...You need to take the good with the bad
     
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    NO Civilized western nation allows its citizens to easily obtain them.....I will you counter you Gun Advocates at every turn.Believe it
     
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    I will Never back down.........Like Millions of Americans NEVER give in to these Gun Nut Jihadists
     
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    “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun.”
    – Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778
     
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    1778?.....Got anything more recent?........Or are you still expectin to use your gun against the Red Coats?
     
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    I'm guessing card carrying brown shirt.
     
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    You seem to be very up to date on infowars. What exactly does infowars have to do with rolling stone?
     
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    Pal, that was not trying to overthrow any government. it was an issue of taxes on a particular good. (whiskey rebellion)
     
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    Most 'civilized' nations sprang from rulers so they are used to being serfs.
     
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    I doubt there are any Founders of the country around today. You know, those involved with the creation of the Constitution.
     
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    He wrote the Declaration of Independence which the document that contains the unique promise that has brought and continues to bring tens of millions of immigrants to the United States to achieve a better life for themselves.
     
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    Yes, a statement made in a state legislature by a drafter of the constitution upon its ratification must have absolutely no use as secondary authority to be paired with the primary authority of the 2a.
     
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    You tell 'em Lesh! It is a felony to use or possess methamphetamines in the U.S. It still tears families apart, and destroys lives. How is outlawing guns and abolishing our 2nd amendment going to change anything?
     
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    What America does affects Australia far more than what Australia does affecting America. If the case were reversed, we would be taking a serious interest in internal Australian politics.

    Because, in the modern world, for a country like the US, there is no difference between 'internal' and 'external'.

    And another point: Australia and Australians are more like America and Americans than any other country in the world. Or put it the other way around: we are more like Australians than we are like any other people, including modern Canadians, who have let the Politically Correct get a grip on their throats.

    If I had to recommend any single short book on world history to give a sensible take on the subject, one that's not full of self-hate for the West, I would recommend Australian Geoffrey Blaine's Short History of the World.

    Conservatives shouldn't let touchy-nationalism make them reject potential allies.
     
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    Yeah in Scandinavia they are real serfs.....Wow trump said he loves the unducauted
     
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    It is utterly amazing how the left, which is every day more the territory of outrageous extremists alleging ridiculous things and promising impossible things and slandering people they dislike in every speech or interview, dares to speak about extremism of the right. Utterly amazing; perhaps the most extreme example of double standard I have ever witnessed.

    Most of the time when there is a double standard, the perps actually know they are doing it, they just have no character or self-respect. Much of the left however seems able to think that it's rational- and they have the right to it. and that is even worse. You have to be grossly unable to think independently to buy into that garbage, to actually think it is rational or in any way realistic.
     

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