Right Wing GOP Has Been Promoting Abortions for 35 yrs

Their financials don't show how they allocated income for abortion versus other service expenses. Let the record show that the attached document, the Planned Parenthood Annual Report, demonstrates no such split. And also, let the record show that in the file the government supplied PP with 45% of its income.

Planned Parenthood FY 2013

Financial data starts on page 16

The idea that they don't use federal funds for abortion is false. Once money becomes part of any company's income stream, it can be used for any expense.

 

If PP is using taxes to pay for abortions then they are breaking the law and you should call call the police or your Congressperson and report them.....don't depend on someone else or the government to do it for you....


Personally , I don't care either way, as long as they can give women safe affordable abortions .

 

Not necessary. There are congress people working to defund PP right now. But since PP apparently has so much support, I reckon they'll get donations and keep afloat that way. Win-win-win.

 

No, that is a separate phony issue. YOU need to get things going on that illegal use of taxes. Don't DEPEND on the GOVERMENT to do it for you

 

Illegal use of taxes??? Haha...Seriously?

 

I didn't say anything about an illegal use of taxes. My position is that NO tax, legal or illegal, should go to fund Planned Parenthood. Fortunately, PP has enough support to fund its own enterprise.

 

Then you do not understand the situation or even your own stand. PP is NOT allowed by law to use taxes to pay for abortions.

 

That does not mean they don't use it for abortions.

Your position is like saying to someone, look even though you work two jobs, only one of your jobs is supposed to pay your electric bill, so you cannot use the money from your second job to pay your electric bill. PP gets federal funding to the tune of 45% of all its income. The government is definitely funding abortions.

 

You claim it, you haven't proven it.


And , as I said, I don't really care, as long as women have access to safe affordable health care....

 

It wasn't my position to prove. Abortions aren't split out and I provided a PP annual statement that demonstrates that.

I don't disagree that women should have access to safe affordable health care, but they should pay for it themselves.

 

Trying to destroy PP will take away many women's access to safe affordable health care,
...... many do pay for themselves or pay insurance premiums.....



You provided no proof that taxes were used for abortions, no one has.

 

I'll rest my case with this:
Planned Parenthood Got $540.6 Million in Government Grants in FY 2013

This is close to half the income PP uses to fund its operations. No document shows that funding sources split out for specific operations. However, PP's own documents group expenses together. Nevertheless, sex is a risk. It is one of the only risks being subsidized in this country. Defunding it is alright because there is enough support to keep PP going even if tax dollars do get pulled. Besides, this country is over 18 Trillion dollars in debt, so cuts can be made in places where the scenarios for services are wholly preventable.

 

"""" close to half the income PP uses to fund its operations"""""



....and abortions account for 3% of it's business....



and do , please, compare 540 million to 18 trillion, a drop in the bucket.....

 

All these expenses add up. The government can still look at other areas to cut costs.

 

Looking at cuts for Planned Parenthood to cut expenses is false economy. Every dollar spent on family planning saves $7 in government expense down the line.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contraceptive_serv.htmlWHAT IMPACT DO FAMILY PLANNING SERVICES HAVE?

• In 2013, publicly funded family planning services helped women to avoid 2 million unintended pregnancies, which would have resulted in about 1 million unintended births and nearly 700,000 abortions.[10]
• In 2013, without publicly funded family planning services from all sources, the number of unintended pregnancies, unplanned births and abortions occurring in the United States would have been 60% higher.
• In 2013, without publicly funded family planning services from centers alone, the number of unintended pregnancies, unplanned births and abortions among all women, as well as the number of teen pregnancies, would have all been 42% higher.
• In 2013, publicly funded family planning services provided at Title X–supported centers helped prevent 1 million unintended pregnancies, which would have resulted in about 501,000 unintended births and 345,000 abortions.[5]


• In 2010, publicly funded family planning services prevented 288,000 unplanned births after a short interpregnancy interval (<18 months) and 164,000 unplanned preterm or low birth weight births. Services provided at Title X–supported centers alone accounted for 152,000 short interpregnancy interval births and 87,000 preterm or low-birth-weight births.[15]
• In 2010, STI testing services provided as part of a publicly funded family planning visit prevented 99,000 chlamydia infections and 16,000 gonorrhea infections. Services provided at Title X–supported centers accounted for 53,000 averted chlamydia infections and 8,800 gonorrhea infections.[15]
• In 2010, services provided as part of a publicly funded family planning visit related to cervical cancer prevention, including Pap and HPV testing and the HPV vaccine, prevented 3,700 cases of cervical cancer and 2,100 cervical cancer deaths. Services provided at Title X–supported centers accounted for 1,900 cases of cervical cancer and 1,100 cervical cancer deaths averted.[15]
• All together, the services provided at publicly funded family planning visits in 2010 resulted in a net savings to the federal and state governments of $13.6 billion. The services provided at Title X–supported centers alone accounted for $7.0 billion of that total.[15]
• In other words, in 2010, every $1.00 invested in publicly funded family planning services saved $7.09 in Medicaid and other public expenditures that otherwise would have been needed.[

 

nope, there is no way to know as no records were kept when abortion was illegal, the closest approximation to the number of abortions prior to Roe can only be extrapolated from hospital records where women were admitted for care after botched back-alley abortions and that figure stands at between 200,000 to 1.2 million per year. One analysis, extrapolating from data from North Carolina, concluded that an estimated 829,000 illegal or self-induced abortions occurred in 1967.

Any attempt to compare abortion prior to Roe and after Roe is fraught with assumption.

Problem is social/moral values have no relevance when it comes to rights.

 

There is nothing anyone can say or do to abolish abortion in the US.
Affordable, quality healthcare in the US is laughable.
We had such a thing through the Clinton administration. Overnight on GW's watch premiums for private health insurance premiums exploded.
FoxHastings, you still haven't answered my question....Why are you so passionate regarding abortion?

 

Do you think Capital Hill is interested in fiscal responsibility?

 

Look at pages 10 and 11....your posts were deleted for hijacking and being off topic.

I am not the topic...


Do NOT PM me again or I'll report you for stalking.

 

PP help prevent 516,000 unplanned pregnancies each year.

PP and teachers are stopped from teaching comprehensive sex education is schools by conservatives who only want abstinence sex education taught, in fact 33 of the 52 states teach mainly abstinence only sex education, no surprise really that 6 of the top 10 states with the highest teenage pregnancy rates teach predominately abstinence only sex education, despite that fact that numerous research findings have shown that comprehensive sex education coupled with free at source contraception reduces unintended pregnancies and abortions.

PP Mission Statement

Planned Parenthood believes in the fundamental right of each individual, throughout the world, to manage his or her fertility, regardless of the individual's income, marital status, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, age, national origin, or residence. We believe that respect and value for diversity in all aspects of our organization are essential to our well-being. We believe that reproductive self-determination must be voluntary and preserve the individual's right to privacy. We further believe that such self-determination will contribute to an enhancement of the quality of life and strong family relationships.

Based on these beliefs, and reflecting the diverse communities within which we operate, the mission of Planned Parenthood is

to provide comprehensive reproductive and complementary health care services in settings which preserve and protect the essential privacy and rights of each individual
to advocate public policies which guarantee these rights and ensure access to such services
to provide educational programs which enhance understanding of individual and societal implications of human sexuality
to promote research and the advancement of technology in reproductive health care and encourage understanding of their inherent bioethical, behavioral, and social implications

Wrong, PP give counselling on all options open to a pregnant woman .. adoption, parenting & abortion

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/pregnant-now-what/parenting
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/pregnant-now-what/adoption
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/pregnancy/pregnant-now-what/thinking-about-abortion

What they do not do is attempt to coerce the woman, unlike Crisis Pregnancy Centres.

 

Sanger was not a racist. neither was she an admirer of Hitler . .no argument she supported Eugenics just as many other leading doctors and prominent people (including a future President) did in that era, like all selective people you ignore the fact that prior to WW2 Eugenics was seen as a main stream science.

So I suggest you actually get your facts right before making assertions you cannot defend.

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LOL .. Everything on that woman's page has been thoroughly trashed - http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/318502-pro-life-margaret-sanger-vs-reality.html

 

Why not cut the federal and state funding for Planned Parenthood? The funds can go to other healthcare providers that do not perform abortions. Problem solved.

 

LOL. You deny that those things are true about Sanger, then someone calls you out and provides proof and your response is that it is trashed or debunked without providing any proof. Ha.

 

PP are externally audited every year, they have faced numerous investigation as to how federal monies are used . .to date there has NEVER been any semblance of evidence that they are using Federal money to fund abortions (apart from some very specific reasons including rape, incest or endangerment to the life of the female)

The Hyde Amendment does not allow Federal funding for abortions except in certain circumstances as already listed.

 

Except that the proof she was not a racist is in the link provided .. which I bet you didn't even look at, the fact is the poster I responded to made a statement with not a single piece of evidence to back it up and yet you are the one asking me to provide the proof, perhaps you should ask them for their proof.. didn't you know the onus of proof is on the person making the assertion?