Rockets Fired Between Gaza and Tel Aviv

Your idea is that Jews can't live in Israel. While they can IF they the real estate they live on has been bought and not stolen.
I find nothing odd about that remark. We all know Jews thieved about half that country, at least, in order to all live there now.
Your remark about that farming has nothing to do with it.

So basically you got no rebuttal why Israeli Jews can't just pay for their property like other people.

There is nothing odd about it. The current Palestinians have been living there as long as people are able to figure out.

You are free to cite the law that give a Jew the right to thieve the real estate from Arabs. We all know what is said in the Balfour Declaration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine

And your idea that those armies had plans for a genocide, is just an anti Arab trope. You're using that racism to justify ethnic cleansing civilians as if those Arab civilians were 7 Arab armies. Your argument also contains the racist argument that you can't distinguish between civilians and armies because all Arabs are alike. Bravo.

There never was a Jewish population in Somalia to speak off. Israel arranged Iraqi Jews to come to Israel and paid by American Jews, where Iraqi jews were previously banned from leaving. Maybe you should read up on pperation Ezra and Nehemiah.

 

By way of example.
Look up the Jezreel Valley. This was purchased legally from absentee landlords,
I think in Lebanon. The deal was approved by the Turks. Jews paid inflated price
for what was once a part of their northern kingdom of Israel.
Two problems - the land was neglected for centuries and there were some Arab
tenant farmers living there. Israel had to care for the farmers and painstakingly
rebuild the land.
Now ask an Palestinian Arab who owns the Jezreel and they will happily launch
into a racist tirade about how Jews stole the valley from them. They will take you
there in a taxi to show you the rich farming land - lost to Arabs.

Oh, and today's Palestinian news - Jews are spraying sewage over them.

 

Jews banned from leaving. And there's no Jews left.
The Iraqis are driving Christians out of Iraq now - in the future
they are going to say they tried to stop them leaving.

So Jews 'volunteered' to leave nations they were in three or
four times longer than Islam was there - but all the Palestinians
were driven out of Israel ????

Palestinians were implored to stay in 1948. And told if they
leave they don't come back. And I doubt Jews would be allowed
to return to places like Iraq. So it's a fair deal - roughly the same
number of Palestinians and Jews were displaced, or displaced
themselves. Let's leave it as it is - today 60% of Israeli Jews
come from the Middle East.

 

Your example means nothing. It's not even related to what Jews did in 1948, since it happened decades before.

Is that all you got from a rather clear cut answer that Jews can live where they are able to pay for the real estate?
Seems rather exceptionally logical to do so. Israeli Jews caused the entire mess in Israel by thieving the real estate from 700,000 Arabs.

And this new spat of war is also about Jews eager to kick out more Arabs with documents of ownership,
while Arabs are refused to be able to do that to Jews because Arabs are Arabs and not Jews.
That makes Israel a full fletched apartheid state.

 

And each nation that drove Jews out is also an apartheid state (that word is now fully politicized,
like gender, racism and sexism) Jews were driven out of over 100 nations - if so then half the
world is 'apartheid' including Iraq and Somalia. Something ought to be done about it.

Jezreel, like all of the early 20th Century settlements, were legally purchased. It didn't stop
seven Arab armies from seeking to evict them.

 

The ban was eventually lifted, and so Israel arranged their departure by plane.
Enter the pro Israeli's the anti-Arab trope that Iraq ethnically cleansed the Jews.
It seems you know nothing about it.

They were driven out by ISIS, when the US was the occupying force in Iraq.
That makes the US government responsible for their lack of safety.
You can express your gratitude to APAIC.

People didn't just spawn out nowhere when they became Muslim.
They already lived there.

The homeland of the Jew made it the law to ban them from returning.
So yeah... they were driven out by Israel through their apartheid law.

That is based on Zionistic lies that the Arabs went away because they were asked to do so from Arab armies.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_the_1948_Palestinian_exodus

Rabbi Chaim Simons demonstrated in 1988 that Zionist leaders in Mandatory Palestine viewed "transfer" (an euphemism for ethnic cleansing) of Arabs from the land as being crucial. He concluded that it was, in fact, a policy and that the Zionist leadership has no viable alternative.[5]

Glazer in 1980 summarized the view of Zionist historians, notably Joseph Schechtman, Hans Kohn, Jon Kimche, and Marie Syrkin, as being:[3]

According to Zionist historians, the Arabs in Palestine were asked to stay and live as citizens in the Jewish state. Instead, they chose to leave, either because they were unwilling to live with the Jews, or because they expected an Arab military victory which would annihilate the Zionists. They thought they could leave temporarily and return at their leisure. Later, an additional claim was put forth, namely that the Palestinians were ordered to leave, with radio broadcasts instructing them to quit their homes.

At that time, Zionist historians generally attributed the Arab leaders' alleged calls for a mass evacuation to the period before the proclamation of Israeli statehood.[3] They generally believed that, after that period, expulsion became standard policy and was carried out systematically.

Morris estimates that Arab orders accounts for at most 5% of the total exodus:

Arab officers ordered the complete evacuation of specific villages in certain areas, lest their inhabitants "treacherously" acquiesce in Israeli rule or hamper Arab military deployments.... There can be no exaggerating the importance of these early Arab-initiated evacuations in the demoralization, and eventual exodus, of the remaining rural and urban populations.[176]

Based on his studies of seventy-three Israeli and foreign archives or other sources, Morris made a judgement as to the main causes for the Arab exodus from each of the 392 settlements that were depopulated during the 1948-1950 conflict (pages xiv to xviii). His tabulation lists "Arab orders" as being a significant "exodus factor" in only 6 of these settlements.

 

Utter nonsense. As noted before: Jews in Iraq were flown out by Israel. There is zero comparison of Israel making it the law banning Arabs return to their real estate because they aint Jew.

All this is, is you ramping up some disgusting argument why the Jew is morally right to ethnically cleanse +700,000 Arabs. You simply support racism / war crimes with this argument.

Indeed. early 20th century, and so it has nothing to do with +700,000 Arab civilians who got their real estate stolen in 1948.
and your claims Arab armies were going to ethnically cleanse all Jews is just a racist anti-arab trope.

 

And natives feel this burn as well.....trust me...
We are already ruled by tycoons, honestly...sanctions might even help us lol

 

Well, that's the history. There were massive antisemitic riots all over the Middle East when the
Jews declared independence.
The stories of Jews and 'Palestinian' Arabs is eerily similar
from Wiki 'Jewish exodus from Arab...'

The Jewish exodus from Arab and Muslim countries, or Jewish exodus from Arab countries, was the departure,
flight, expulsion, evacuation and migration of 850,000 Jews,[1][2] primarily of Sephardi and Mizrahi background, from
Arab countries and the Muslim world, mainly from 1948 to the early 1970s. The last major migration wave took place f
rom Iran in 1979–80, as a consequence of the Iranian Revolution.
Prior to the creation of Israel in 1948, approximately 800,000 Jews were living in lands that now make up the Arab world.
Of these, just under two-thirds lived in the French and Italian-controlled North Africa, 15–20% in the Kingdom of Iraq,
approximately 10% in the Kingdom of Egypt and approximately 7% in the Kingdom of Yemen. A further 200,000 lived in
Pahlavi Iran and the Republic of Turkey.
The first large-scale exoduses took place in the late 1940s and early 1950s, primarily from Iraq, Yemen and Libya. In these
cases over 90% of the Jewish population left, despite the necessity of leaving their property behind.[5] ..
The reasons for the exoduses are manifold, including push factors, such as persecution, antisemitism, political
instability,[17] poverty[17] and expulsion, together with pull factors, such as the desire to fulfill Zionist yearnings or find a
better economic status and a secure home in Europe or the Americas. The history of the exodus has been politicized, given
its proposed relevance to the historical narrative of the Arab–Israeli conflict.[18][19] When presenting the history, those who
view the Jewish exodus as analogous to the 1948 Palestinian exodus generally emphasize the push factors and consider
those who left as refugees, while those who do not, emphasize the pull factors and consider them willing immigrants.[20]

There's plenty of stories of Jews being massacred during this time.

 

says jews

also idont subscribe to eurocentric made up terms like "middle east" so your example here means nothing in the wider context but only to other eurocentrics.

 

they came by themselves and israelis are trying to deport them.

im white

 

Says who? Geneticists. The DNA. That's science Esau.
Most Jews in Israel HISTORICALLY have come from countries like Iraq, Iran,
Somalia, Eritrea etc.. Many surviving European Jews went to America, or
other Western nations. Too much trouble in the Middle East.

 

at present, science has not proven white jewish europeans are descended from biblical israelites.

 

Lots are half truths, like that nonsense you lot puke up that the Jews did not want them Arab citizens to leave. As shown before. It was Israel who picked up the Jews in Iraq. They did it all over the Arab world. It was their plan to do so before 1948 even. They bought the Jews like kettle from Morocco. And there were no Algerian Jews, just French citizens who were Jews living in Algeria who went back to France. Israel tried to buy out Iranian Jews as well.

All in all. Those Jews weren't ethnic cleansed. And you use this whataboutism, to justify that the Jew got somewhere a moral right to steal from a Palestinian who had zero influence in Morocco, Yemen, or Iran etc. It's all under the utterly and utterly racist veil of: an Arab wronged me here, so I can wrong an Arab somewhere else since all Arabs are interchangeable and collectively guilty of their crimes. You lot are truely nuts to continue this racist fallacy of an argument in 2021.


The world really had enough of the racism from your side to justify why Israeli Jews get to ethnic cleanse Arabs. You got no reply to a simple thing as: Arab citizens got equal rights and so if a Jew stole their real estate they should get it back, just as easy as some Jew getting his property back in East-Jerusalem. Equal rights is simply too much to ask.

 

Yes indeed

850,000 Jewish refugees from the Arab world after 1948 were all successfully resettled in Israel and other countries- with 0 refugees left today- yet, UNRWA has multiplied the number of Palestinian refugees from 700,000 to 5 million.

WTF?

 

I don't care about tycoons. I care about the Bedouin mafia and its control over 60% of Israeli territory.

And yes, sanctions would help us a lot. But not at all for economic reasons (why would that be?).

If the West was to escalate the war of words against us to something bigger, we would be able not to care anymore about America and Europe and do what is needed to be done.

 

Exactly, the Jews were looked on as Europeans taking over their lands. They were an alien culture. The same thing could be said for Tsarist Russia. The Jews that caused the problems came from Poland when it was part of Russia. They wanted to impose the liberal ideals of the enlightenment on Russia.

And yet the Muslims made a habit of thieving the homes of those they killed or displaced without payment. When the Turks invaded Northern Cyprus and began killing the civilians to ethnically cleanse 1/3 of the island, most of the Greeks fled. Since the Turkish population was only 11%, they brought Turks over from the mainland to occupy the Greek homes. When it was eventually brought to the Hague, Turkey was told to pay and yet they never paid a cent.

Another example would be Egypt. When Nassar took over Egypt and expelled the British, French, Italians, etc. They all had to leave penniless - with the exception of the Greeks who were allowed to take some of their belongings. As for the Egyptians who had taken over the homes of the Europeans when they were kicked out, well they said that Nassar had given them back their self respect.

Then there is Constantinople (Istanbul). According to the Treaty of Lausanne, hundreds of thousands of indigenous Greco/Romans were allowed to remain in the city during the population exchange under Attaturk. Later on, in the government organized pogroms of 1955, many were killed, women raped, churches destroyed and almost 5 thousand business' were destroyed. The Greeks were forced to leave penniless. Then in 1964 the rest of the Greeks had to leave and all their homes of were taken over by the Turks.

I'm sure in Kosovo, the 200 thousand Serbs who ended up in refugee camps, never received payment for their homes from the Albanian Muslims. So to call the Jews thieves for doing something that is habitual among many Muslims is a bit hypocritical.

Had though the Jews acted differently, and paid the Palestinians for their homes right from the start, then things might have been different since the Palestinians wouldn't have had any legal claims. Sometimes it's worth paying one's adversary for peace, and by doing so, turning them into friends. We were doing it at one time, and I know the Byzantine Empire did - otherwise it wouldn't have survived for 1 thousand years.

 

That's an ethnic slur.

The Greeks started and invaded the country first, with the support of the Greek Cypriots. They were warned not to, but did it anyways. Under the Treaty of Guarantee (1960) the Turks had full rights to put an end to this, and so they did. They brokered a good deal with the support of the UK, Greece, Turkey and the Cypriot government.... but in a referendum the Cypriots declined and so the unification never happened. So the Greeks / Greek Cypriots started it, and the Greek Cypriots refused to end it.

Get real. They kicked out their colonial oppressors who robbed half the country. The British museum still makes money of the things the UK stole from Egypt.

Seriously... Istanbul between ( )?
And it's well known the Greeks destroyed plenty of mosques. What remains in Athens is used to display Greek folk art. Where did the people who went to that mosque go to, ey?

The Serbs started this, and kicked out 850,000 Muslims from Kosovo / destroyed 40% of all their houses. The amount of women raped is estimated to be between 10,000 and 20,000. And here you are whining about those people who hardly survived with most likely not a house to live in anymore, not able to pay up when the Serbs packed their bags in shame.


All your examples contain the same fallacy, of never minding the other side wronged them on a far bigger scale and in most cases started causing the problems.

Main problem is that Jews still have the rights -according to Israel- to get their lost real estate back, while the same country bans Arabs from getting their real estate back because of they aint Jewish but Arab. That and Israeli Jews have a habit of destroying whatever they please in the WB. Even schools when they are build with money from the EU INSIDE the West Bank.

 

Nah, it's a religious slur and I apologize, but I didn't say all Muslims, since they're not all the same culturally. I just mentioned the situations I know of.

Britain promised Greece they would give them Cyprus at the end of WWI since over 90% of the people were Greek and then they reneged on it. Churchill promised again to give Greece Cyprus at the end of WWII, but he was kicked out and the British government reneged again.

When it was brought up at the UN, Britain might have been the one that aroused the Turkish population to object, which at the time was 11% so that they could hold on to the island which at the time was part of their life line.

This infuriated some Greek paramilitary with no connection to the Greek government. They tried to impose a solution on Cyprus by attacking the Turks and this incident was used as an excuse by Echevit to invade Cyprus.

Turkey is an opportunist nation, and at the time Nixon was being impeached, and Echevit knew that Kissinger who was his former teacher was now in charge. Kissinger warned Greece not to intervene because the US will hold back supplies, and that the Turks cannot afford to stay on Cyprus and will leave.

Needless to say, Kissinger never held a government position again. He said that he didn't take into account the Greeks in the US. In other words it didn't matter how many Cypriot lives were lost, the only thing that mattered was American politics.

The Greek Cypriots started it by wanting their independence from Britain, which Britain had promised when they fought with them in WWI against the Turks and in WWII against the Germans. They certainly were not going to end it by giving in to Turkish demands.

Europeans went to Egypt when it was under Britain and the country was thriving. The beautiful homes and neighborhoods the foreigners lived in, turned into slums 10 years after they left. You realize that the true Egyptians are the Christian Copts, and they're treated as second class citizens by the Arab 'occupiers'.

I'll tell you where the Turks went. Part of the Treaty of Lausanne which was signed by Attaturk, was an exchange of populations. Over 2 million Greeks in Anatolia (Turkey), were exchanged for 1/2 million Turks living in Greece. Since there weren't anymore Turks in Greece, mosques were not needed.

This is in stark contrast to Anatolia, where before the exchange of populations the Christian Greeks, Armenians and Assyrians were probably in the majority, yet all the churches were destroyed or converted into mosques by the Ottomans - that is with the exception of the ones dedicated to Saint George who they somehow feared.

Thrace was the only area where Muslims were to remain in Greece according to the Treaty of Lausanne. The Treaty allowed for 25 thousand to remain, and yet today there are over 100 thousand. Now compare that to Constantinople/Istanbul where a half million Greeks were to remain according to the Treaty, and because of the pogroms and persecutions there are only 1,500 today.

Kosovo was always a part of Serbia. The dictator Tito was the one who invited the Albanians into Kosovo. They didn't belong there and most left when Clinton started bombing. The Albanians in order to ethnically cleanse the Serbs so they could take over Kosovo, formed the KLA terrorist group which began killing Serbs and selling their body organs among other atrocities. This is why Milosevik's army was in Kosovo. It was to protect the Serbs from the KLA.

There was no genocide and atrocities by Serbs. When they searched after the war, the only men they found killed were those killed in retaliation when Clinton was bombing Belgrade. During another person's trial, Miloshevik was proven innocent of everything they accused him of.

In order to keep the truth hidden from the public and the lies and criminality of our actions, right before Miloshevik was to appear in court they killed him by giving him something that blocked his heart medication.

The wars in Yugoslavia were all planned by Germany to break it up, according to a French General who was at the meetings. The German chancellor had no problem convincing Clinton since he knew fluent German and they spoke every morning.

 

You did mention "the Muslims" as a whole group, and dragged in half truth examples to claim you're right.

The Greek paramilitary overthrew the Greek government and WAS the Greek government as well. They and the Greek Cypriots started it. You don't deny it. And according to the Treaty of Guarantee, the Turks had and took their right to intervene. You're not responding to this. You're also not responding to the fact that everybody was happy to implement a plan for a reunification, including the Cypriot government, except the people said no in a referendum. That's all what matters to me.

The "Arabs" there are people who submitted to forced conversion and are also the true Egyptians. Forced conversion is a thing that Christianity knows all about too. While the British are just foreign brutal oppressors who robbed half the country of it's native cultural heritage. And here you are sobbing that Muslims kicked them out, wrongfully labelling the muslims as occupiers and looking the other way when the white folks from the UK were the occupiers. Who is treating who as 2nd class?

The destruction of ones temples is no stranger to the Christian faith. Pot / Kettle.

I am going with the general contemporary and broadly agreed upon truth about what the Serbs did in general in ex-Yugoslavia and also in Kosovo.
I really do not care that some people stick to a version only supported by extremely nationalistic orthodox Christians. That remains an ill joke to me.