Ron DeSantis jumps into the 2024 presidential race

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    Some polls yes, and some polls no. But this is 2023. In 1991, GHWB had a commanding lead among any Republican and Democrat, and yet, he still lost the general election in 1992. Hillary also had a commanding lead among any potential GOP candidate in 2015, and yet, still lost the general election in 2016.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    What's your point?

    Awww, Leftists are being persecuted like Jews, now?...lol
     
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    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, who?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That ain't nothing. There are lots of people who think Communism works, and hold office. Hundreds, maybe thousands of them.
     
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    I wonder what name the left will come up with to call DeSantis supporters. Can't use extremist MAGA Republicans, as that one's already taken. Extremist Great American Comebackers?
     
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    DeSantis supporters are more moderate than MAGA.

    For the simple reason that they know he has a much better chance of beating Biden in 2024.

    So they're willing to set aside part of their political agenda to support a candidate who can win.

    Something the MAGAs are incapable of doing.
     
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    If the left was offering something better than a puppet, maybe they'd vote Democrat.

    Vivek Ramaswamy on Twitter: "It's a myth that Joe Biden is actually running for President. He's not. It's just the managerial class using Joe Biden as a front to advance its own agenda. To them Biden's cognitive impairment isn't a bug. It's a feature. The Administrative state more effectively controls its… https://t.co/TsOON7ePRw" / Twitter
     
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    Tell us how you know this.
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    I've just explained it.... in the three lines below.
     
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    That doesn't prove that they are more moderate than Trump supporters.
     
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    What Ramaswamy is proposing is pure ignorance and typical fear. He has no plan with any of the complex issues. And he is running as a GOP candidate, not a Democrat.

    that being said, you have currently three candidates running for DNC: Biden, Kennedy Jr, and Williamson. Of the three, Biden has the commanding lead followed by Kennedy Jr, mostly because of his progressive policies on the environment. There is a possibility that joe Manchin may run, but I don't think so.
     
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    Yes, but none of them are in office. Not even AOC has made that type of statement And if you try to use socialism, that too is a very broad topic in which most conservatives have no idea what political socialism is or can differentiate between socialism, social democracy, and corporate capitalism to say the least.
     
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    the point is you are using the same, tired argument. Instead of Jews, you use leftists. That is all. But the same argument remains.
     
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    And what argument is that?
     
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    You are blaming a political group of people for all the ills in the country, much like what Germany did with Jews and other groups who were not "politically acceptable."
     
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    Thoughts from a digger’s son…

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    No, that's not what I'm doing. I'm pointing out that Leftist policies are all failures.
     
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    We can use the same name we use for Trump supporters......suckers.
     
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    Yeah, that 40 hour work week is a killer.
    Social Security is just awful.
     
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    The 40 hour work only means an employee can be limited to how much money he can make.

    Social security is close to going tits up.
     
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    Not at all. There is overtime. What it restricts is how little someone can be paid for working more than 40 hours.

    Thank you Republicans.
     
  22. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Not everyone is allowed overtime.

    It's all the Republicans fault?
     
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    Any hourly employee is ALLOWED overtime, whether or not it is offered is a different question. And again, not impacted by the institution of the 40 hour work week.
     
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    I guess you don't see how Biden's "dismal" poll numbers and Trump's poll numbers actually reinforces the "sucker" reference.

    People are not happy with Biden, that doesn't mean they won't vote for him if he runs against Trump. It just means that we are realistic about the job he is doing.

    Trump supporters, however, still gleefully support the sentient orange septic tank despite the fact that by every objective standard, he is a horrible human being and was an even worse President.

    You aren't a sucker when you spend 100,000 on a Picasso painting even if you don't like it. You ARE a sucker when you spend 100,000 on a Picasso forgery even if you love it.

    That is the very definition of sucker, supporting that which does not deserve support.
     
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