Routine Traffic Stop leads to 7 dead - in Odessa

You are incorrect. What you are calling a "gun show loophole" is just a private sale, which is legal in many states. There is no law they are trying to circumvent. I strongly disagree with creating new laws as they have no effect on those who wish to cause harm to others.

What you are proposing is already law here in CA. When I buy a gun at a gun show, I go through a background check and pick it up from a licensed dealer 10 days later. Please explain how this prevents/reduces murder.

 

What the heck is the law if there is no enforcement?

You can't believe in the law AND believe that there can be no enforcement.

This isn't the Third Reich.

And yes, I don't agree with all laws. But, that doesn't mean I don't respect the law. It means I'll work harder toward improving the law. That's what we do in a democracy like ours.

I doubt the Proud Boys and other white supremacist groups are motivated by child support laws or by not being heard enough.

Defacing a synagog or slaughtering the worshipers isn't a rational act. And, they can not possibly think that their acts and marches are going to cause some sort of change they want. The way we improve our laws isn't at gunpoint.

There is a total derangement here, and when that is coupled with easy access to lethal weapons, those who are totally deranged can do stupendous harm.

So, some guy gets fired. What gave him the idea that a rational response to that was to slaughter his coworkers as well as innocent bystanders??

 

Really?

Cite please.

 

At least one of the recent killers was denied a gun by a background check and subsequently bought his weapon through a private sale.

Had a background check been required for the private sale, it's quite possible that a number of people would be alive today.

 

The video shows the stabber being attacked and trying to get away before the knife appeared. She was plainly trying to defend herself from the much larger vicious woman who was attacking her. Yet she got busted for murder when it is clearly a case of self defense.

You said that you would be justified in killing a person in self defense. The stabbing shows that even when there is video evidence that it is self defense that you can be busted for murder depending on who you are.

 

Swalwell and ororke have both called for confiscation of ar-15/ak47s

 

Link?

 

But just as likely that he would have had a girlfriend buy the gun. If you think a BGC is the answer then you're naïve.

 

That congressman isn't proposing that anyone is going to get their guns confiscated.

And, Carlson makes a total ass of himself in that segment, as usual.

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...bought-gun-legally-at-private-sale-2019-09-03

 

So? The girlfriend is breaking the law by giving a gun to a person who is prohibited from having a gun. Make private sells or gifts go through BGCs with registering of the transfer.

 

O’rourke wants them turned in to the government

 

That would be a crime committed by the "friend" - a crime resulting in deaths. It could probably be prosecuted as murder.

I don't know what BGC is. I assume GC means gun control.

I certainly don't believe there is one "answer".

 

He has buyback programs as one of the alternatives.

 

What libs ate calling a private sale could in fact be a surrogate buyer who knew the shooter

Yes it could be as described but also may not be

 

O’rourke is a nutcase who wants a mandatory confiscation

beto o’rourke mandatory confiscation

 

It's never been prosecuted as murder. BCG = back ground check. You're right - the written law will stop all crimes. It's a crime he says . We be law abiding crack heads and ho s.

 

The police are calling it a private sale.

I don't know who the heck you're choosing as spokesperson for "libs".

 

Please note that in my post I stated:

 

You also wrote "Had a background check been required for the private sale....", to which I will add registration, which has been ignored

 

False. The traffic stop was not the cause of this mass murderer's actions.

 

It's easily circumvented. A guy wants a gun so he can rob his local drug dealer but his crack head ho won't buy him a gun because it's against the law? You actually believe that? "Oh she wouldn't buy him a gun. It's against the law";.
Being in possession of a gun is probably the number one reason convicted felons get busted for parole violations.
"But it's against the law". "But he's prohibited". See...........the laws don't prevent crime.

 

Err, the guy was not a crackhead or trying to rob anyone so try and stay on topic of the event in the OP

 

The conversation is fluid. It got into background checks and that's were I took it. You seem to be claiming that BGCs work because to circumvent them is "against the law". Let's all whine "he can't do that, it's against the law".
You can't even keep track of what you posted, and I quote truth and justice said;

The girlfriend is breaking the law by giving a gun to a person who is prohibited from having a gun. Make private sells or gifts go through BGCs with registering of the transfer.

 

Agreed.