Rudy Giuliani, Lindsey Graham and John Eastman subpoenaed by Fulton County DA in election probe

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And we're back to the "It's okay that Trump tried to overthrow our elections because he's a ****ing idiot" excuse. Lame.
     
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    Except your description is completely fraudulent.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report...sians-had-early-knowledge-of-steele-material/

    “The FBI first sought a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to wiretap Trump campaign aide Carter Page in October 2016, and relied in part on material from Steele.”

    Furthermore the democrat party has ADMITTED to funding it and said essentially “but it’s okay because the people who did that are no longer running the party”

    Please spare us your bullshit about being concerned with democracy. Thanks in advance.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Since when are election challenges prohibited and against the law?
     
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    ShadowX Well-Known Member

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    If you believe that you were cheated you’re not illegally trying to overthrow an election. You’re trying to get your LEGITIMATE win recognized.

    That’s different than KNOWING you lost and attempting to get a fraudulent win. Which is what you’re dishonestly asserting occurred. You actually have ADMITTED that trump thought he won every time you say “yes we know he’s stupid” or something to that effect. If that’s the case it was not illegally trying to overthrow an election.
     
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    No it was not how is it you believe it was? The dossier was entirely a Hillary thingy.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    That's only for Page. The investigation started before then. And this wasn't even the first time Page's communications were under surveillance.
     
  7. yardmeat

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    It was originally commissioned by Republicans. The Free Beacon. Dude, catch up. This isn't as bad as the time that you were unaware that the Trump Tower meeting happened, but it is close. Try research. Just try. Try it for a day and see how it changes your life.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    If you are dumb enough to think that your neighbor has your property, even after being corrected by your legal counsel, it is still illegal to break into your neighbor's house and try to take that property.
     
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    No it was not. The Free Beacon had used Fusion GPS an established opposition research firm but the contract was cancelled before anything about Russia or Steele. It was months later the Clinton campaign hired them and after that Steele was hired to produce the fake dossier. One had nothing to do with the other. And The Free Beacon is a conservative publication not the Republican party or association with a Republican campaign.

    Fusion GPS and the Washington Free Beacon
    A note to our readers
    "Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

    Representatives of the Free Beacon approached the House Intelligence Committee today [Friday, Oct 27] and offered to answer what questions we can in their ongoing probe of Fusion GPS and the Steele dossier. But to be clear: We stand by our reporting, and we do not apologize for our methods. We consider it our duty to report verifiable information, not falsehoods or slander, and we believe that commitment has been well demonstrated by the quality of the journalism that we produce. The First Amendment guarantees our right to engage in news-gathering as we see fit, and we intend to continue doing just that as we have since the day we launched this project."
    https://freebeacon.com/uncategorized/fusion-gps-washington-free-beacon/

    And BTW who did the Russian woman at the Trump Tower meeting meet with just before and just after that meeting?
     
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    Ehhhh wrong answer. The free beacon hired the same firm first. That does not mean they were hired to fabricate a dossier like the Clinton campaign did. There is absolutely zero evidence that the dossier compiled for the Clinton campaign first originated with the free beacon opposition research.

    If you have it. Produce it.
     
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    Sure. But theres absolutely nothing illegal with attempting to convince any and everyone to continue to look into whether or not they stole your property.
     
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    He tried to "reverse it" by having recounts of ballots and casting out ones he claimed were illegally cast. Gore was mining for them trying to CREATE votes in his favor to over throw the CERTIFIED results. Even after he had lost in court. So why wasn't he charged with a crime?
     
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    Not sure why both aren't in play here.... I just don't think willful delusion is going to play as a long term defense strategy....
     
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    That's not the only way Trump tried to reverse it. Jesus, please tell me you don't actually believe that bull ****. Anyone who has done even a few seconds of research knows that is false. And, no, that's not what Gore did. And Gore gave up when he exhausted his legal options. Trump didn't.
     
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    Back to subpoenas, the Ga. GJ judge has denied attempts by some Ga. swamp creatures to avoid his GJ. This likely has no impact on the National MAGA swampers from doing the same, but his decision is interesting for what won't be allowed to be asked. None of which was likely in play anyway

    I especially liked the guy who wanted to wait until September, because his "lawyer was busy"..... Guess again, sparky...

    SNIP
    But legislative privilege does not extend to communications with private citizens on topics related to the grand jury investigation, even if those communications took place during the performance of legislative duties, McBurney wrote.

    McBurney also denied a request from Ligon to delay his testimony before the grand jury until September to accommodate his lawyer’s trial schedule. The judge said Ligon must be available to testify for two hours while the grand jury is meeting Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday of next week.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-denies-lawmakers-challenge-testify-152641240.html
     
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    Not to mention Gore only had to flip ONE EXTREMELY close state with a really shitty voting history and system.... 10K+ votes is Mt. Everest compared to what Gore was fighting...
     
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    Yep, and the recounts (which were never completed) proved he had a point. Bush's lead had shrunk from just over 2,000 to just over 500 before SCOTUS stopped the recount. And, again, Trump got the recounts he requested. Which I supported.
     
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    As did I, as long as he or his party paid for them (which they surprisingly did) if that state required it...

    $3 million in Wisconsin alone... (which added 132 votes for Biden....tee hee)

    I've said all along, T**** had carte blanche to whine and sue and recount to his tiny little shriveled hearts content UNTIL December 14th, the "safe harbor" date. I begrudged him no unturned stone, although I laughed along with most of them (Rudy in Michigan, Rudy at 4 Seasons, Sweaty Rudy at the RNC), but it was all open season.... That he was losing all but a single (relatively unimportant) court case seemed not to have bothered or bankrupted him (financially)

    But after the 14th, it veered quickly towards sedition... and that's what we got....

    Probably my favorite moment of those entire 6 weeks was Ducey patently ignoring T**** on the phone WHILE signing his state's certification...

    https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-go...nce-while-certifying-election-results-1551318
     
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    That's not all that Trump did.
     
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    And if Trump had stopped at "Will you please keep looking into this," you MIGHT have a point. He didn't. You don't.
     
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    Hey Charlie Brown, come on, kick the football, kick it!
     
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    In Georgia that is what he did and if you are going to assert he did something else then state what it was and the evidence to back it up.
     
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    So you still haven't read the Eastman memo . . . still?
     
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    The LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL recount was done. The election was CERTIFIED. Gore had lost in court, summarily lost in court. He went to the FSC and got them to unconstitutionally change the rules of the election to give him his selective hand recounts trying to FIND VOTES that were not there so he could overturn the results.

    Was he charged with a crime?
     
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    I've read the legal strategies they were tossing around what about them?
     

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