Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Bill Carson

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    Enough of the trump circle jerk. You all will have plenty of time to bitch about him when he's back in the White House. Get back on topic....even if it's fake news...like Ukraine is winning (when in reality they're getting the **** kicked out of them)
     
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    No sir, it's the cold hard truth.
     
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    The Europeans called the US under Dotard a unreliable partner.
    How about that
     
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    Russia Facing 'Outright Defeat' And 'Sudden' Collapse In ...
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    Mar 13, 2022 — Author and political scientist Francis Fukuyama said the Russian military is now facing the possibility of “outright defeat” in Ukraine.
     
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    Truely Dotard fantasy land, nobody has ever split NATO like Dotard. Has created so much resistance against the US in NATO like Dotard.
    Questioning article 5, while the US was still benefiting from it.

    As the European NATO members agreed on, the US is a unreliable partners, because of Dotard.

    Keep up the Cool Aid.
     
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    NATO is a POS full of Euro leeches. End of NATO topic. Thanks.
     
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    How many cities have the Russians taken so far?
     
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    I don't do koolade I offer a glimpse of truth
     
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    Through the haze of Cool Aide.
     
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    Through the haze of Cool Aide.
     
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    Deep breaths should clear your vision but a word of warning, the truth can be very scary for those who aren't accustomed to seeing it.
     
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    Especially for Dotard these days, considering the seriousness of the possible criminal charges he is facing.
     
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    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 29
    Mar 29, 2022 - Press ISW

    Frederick W. Kagan, George Barros, and Kateryna Stepanenko

    March 29, 5:00 ET

    The Russians have not yet abandoned their attacks on Kyiv, claims by Russian Defense Ministry officials notwithstanding. Russian forces continued fighting to hold their forwardmost positions on the eastern and western Kyiv outskirts even as badly damaged units withdrew to Russia from elsewhere on the Kyiv and Chernihiv axes. The Russian high command has likely concluded that it cannot seize Kyiv and may not be able to move artillery closer to the center of the city. It may have decided to stop its previous practices of forcing units that have already taken devastating losses to continue hopeless offensive operations and of feeding individual battalion tactical groups into the battle as they become available rather than concentrating them to achieve decisive effects. Russian officials are likely casting these decisions driven by military realities as overtures demonstrating Russia’s willingness to engage in serious ceasefire or peace negotiations, possibly to conceal the fact that they have accepted the failure of their efforts on the Kyiv axis.

    Russia continues to reinforce its efforts in Ukraine’s northeast likely attempting to link its positions southeast of Kharkiv and Izyum with its forces in Luhansk Oblast. The Russians have reportedly redirected forces from the Chernihiv-Kharkiv axis to the Izyum-Slovyansk axis, most likely reassigning reinforcements rather than redeploying units already committed to fighting. Russian forces in the Izyum-Slovyansk area continue fighting to hold and expand their penetration to the southeast.

    The Russian advance in Mariupol continues to gain ground, and Russian forces have likely bisected or even trisected the city. Pockets of Ukrainian defenders continue to hold out in Mariupol, likely in several areas, but the Russians will likely complete the conquest of the city within days. Russian forces have likely taken significant casualties in the tough urban fighting in Mariupol, making it difficult to evaluate how much combat power the Russians will be able to harvest from Mariupol to use for further advances north and west.

    Russian operations in southeastern Ukraine have left large portions of Donetsk Oblast under Ukrainian control. Securing the boundaries of Donetsk Oblast along with the entirety of Luhansk Oblast will likely require a major offensive operation. Much of the area of Donetsk Oblast outside Russian control is flat and sparsely populated—terrain similar to that on which Russian forces elsewhere have been able to advance rapidly, at least earlier in the war. Russian offensive operations in similar terrain more recently have struggled, however. It is too soon to tell how feasible the Russian conquest of all of Donetsk and Luhansk will be for the Russian military in its current state.

    Key Takeaways

    • We now assess that Russian forces have given up on encircling or seizing Kyiv at this time. Russian forces continue to fight to hold their current front-line trace near the city, however, remaining dug into positions to the east, northwest, and west. Russian forces withdrawing from the area around Kyiv appear to be moving north from behind the front line to positions in Belarus.
    • Russia is directing some reserves to the effort to connect gains southeast of Kharkiv and Izyum with its front line in Luhansk.
    • Ukrainian forces continue to defend in likely isolated pockets in Mariupol. The city will likely fall to the Russians within days.
    • A Russian offensive operation to take the rest of unoccupied Donetsk Oblast would be a significant undertaking. It remains unclear if Russia can harvest enough combat power from Mariupol after securing the city or divert reinforcements from elsewhere on a large enough scale to complete it.
    ... https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-29
     
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    Uhhh, that may not be koolade served at the meetings.
     
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    And here's
    The Russians have taken Mariupol, Kherson and Nykoliyiv and have opened a pathway from Russia to Crimea and enclosed the Azov Sea. The 'reincarnated' Shoigu said that they want to concentrate on freeing all the Donbass. To do that, they have to keep the Ukrainian and Nazi armies trapped in a cauldron, or locked up in Kiev, Odessa and Kharkov for fear of a Russian attack.

    Once the whole Donetsk area is free like Lugansk, then a referendum will be held with all the inhabitants voting if they want to be part of Ukraine, independent or be a republic within the Russian Federation.

    After that, I assume the Russian army will try to take Odessa. That way they'll have a passageway to Transnistra. It would also give them control of the Black Sea.
     
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    By asking such a question, you immediately admit that you do not understand what is happening in Ukraine and the goals of the Russian army.
     
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    Because the war isn’t over. I believe Churchill said - it’s not the beginning of the end, but, perhaps, the end of the beginning. :smoking:
     
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    To make sure they don't change their minds.
     
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    could this mean that Ukraine will take Moscow all the way to the Urals? ;-)
     
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    The current, US-installed regime was not achieved PER BALLOT box.

    You can claim anything you want, but facts are facts are facts.
     
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    Interesting to read, but ........
    ... saying that "U.S. leadership of NATO" represents "world democracy" is the biggest laugh of the month. Let us (for the moment) put NATO's perceived acheviments aside and focus on the U.S. which is the greatest destroyer of Democracy in our time! How in Hell can you possibly make a claim that the U.S. leads NATO or the world in DEMOCRACY?!!! Lord in heaven! :alcoholic:
     
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